Vegetarian Football Fans
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See!Cordoban Addick said:BIG_ROB said:Each to their own, but some veggies do try and take the moral high ground, a bit like people who ride a poxy push bike to work!
That is because we do have the moral high ground (on both counts).0 -
Hello luv!AddickUpNorth said:@BIG_ROB - hello mate!
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Wait for Big_Rob to reply.seth plum said:Gosh.....are all lifers veggie? It is a phenomenal proportion on here it seems to me!
Ooooop's already has.
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Get a room you two.BIG_ROB said:
Hello luv!AddickUpNorth said:@BIG_ROB - hello mate!
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(In a hotel that does Vegetarian meals............)
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He's right.BIG_ROB said:
See!Cordoban Addick said:BIG_ROB said:Each to their own, but some veggies do try and take the moral high ground, a bit like people who ride a poxy push bike to work!
That is because we do have the moral high ground (on both counts).0 -
What I don't understand is veggies thinking they're doing everyone a favour by not eating meat and don't eat meat because they think its cruel. Then they eat fish when actually, to kill a fish you have to take it out of its natural environment and starve it of oxygen and water to kill it. Nice and humane that.0
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http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/16/vegans-stomach-unpalatable-truth-quinoa
Don't be cruel to animals Vegans, be cruel to humans instead.0 -
Not to mention that, despite protestations to the contrary earlier in the thread, fish are just as much farmed as animals.The Red Robin said:What I don't understand is veggies thinking they're doing everyone a favour by not eating meat and don't eat meat because they think its cruel. Then they eat fish when actually, to kill a fish you have to take it out of its natural environment and starve it of oxygen and water to kill it. Nice and humane that.
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Vegetarians don't eat fish, but some people who refer to themselves as vegetarian do, whereas in fact they are best described as semi-vegetarian - or perhaps pescetarian .
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I eat neither, but everyone objects to some things whilst turning blind eyes to other things that are worse, if we didn't we'd all be babrbarians or hermits.Leroy Ambrose said:
Not to mention that, despite protestations to the contrary earlier in the thread, fish are just as much farmed as animals.The Red Robin said:What I don't understand is veggies thinking they're doing everyone a favour by not eating meat and don't eat meat because they think its cruel. Then they eat fish when actually, to kill a fish you have to take it out of its natural environment and starve it of oxygen and water to kill it. Nice and humane that.
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What I don't understand is where you are meeting all these vegetarians that are forcing their opinions on you. If you will go to Animal Liberation Front meetings what do you expect?The Red Robin said:What I don't understand is veggies thinking they're doing everyone a favour by not eating meat and don't eat meat because they think its cruel. Then they eat fish when actually, to kill a fish you have to take it out of its natural environment and starve it of oxygen and water to kill it. Nice and humane that.
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Although not a veggie myself I do like the occasional veggie meal. Used the play in the same squash team as a militant vegan what a pain in the arse he was! All the time lecturing us on eating anything to do with meat in the meantime he was always ill with stomach upsets and had colds that lasted for weeks on end.0
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What I don't understand is where you are meeting all these vegetarians that are forcing their opinions on you. If you will go to Animal Liberation Front meetings what do you expect?Wheresmeticket? said:The Red Robin said:What I don't understand is veggies thinking they're doing everyone a favour by not eating meat and don't eat meat because they think its cruel. Then they eat fish when actually, to kill a fish you have to take it out of its natural environment and starve it of oxygen and water to kill it. Nice and humane that.
Might want to reread my post mate.0 -
I don't batter an eye lid if someone tells me they're a veggie, but being into me shooting etc, I think that tends to get their backs up. Me sister-in-law is veggie and we get on famously!0
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Would ya?BIG_ROB said:Me sister-in-law is veggie and we get on famously!
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A very rare no from me! ; )DaveMehmet said:
Would ya?BIG_ROB said:Me sister-in-law is veggie and we get on famously!
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Very rare, just how I like my steak!0
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Salad said:
Vegetarians don't eat fish, but some people who refer to themselves as vegetarian do, whereas in fact they are best described as semi-vegetarian - or perhaps pescetarian .
As Wiki says:
"Pescetarianism (pron.: /ˌpɛskɨˈtɛəriən/) (also spelled pescatarianism) is the practice of a diet that includes seafood but not the flesh of other animals.
A pescetarian diet shares many of its components with a vegetarian diet and includes vegetables, fruit, nuts, grains, beans, eggs, and dairy, but unlike a vegetarian diet also includes fish and shellfish. The Merriam-Webster dictionary dates the origin of the term "pescetarian" to 1993 and defines it to mean: "one whose diet includes fish but no other meat".
That's me.
I find it hard to digest animal meat, something to do mainly with the saturated fat as my doctor told me 20-odd years ago - he recommended me to take a fish, dairy and vegetarian diet.
Sorted out all my digestive problems - although if I eat too much cheese I get a reaction.
And if people want to eat meat, absolutely fine by me.
Just don't eat all the non-meat alternatives first at receptions, etc !
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Not to mention that, despite protestations to the contrary earlier in the thread, fish are just as much farmed as animals.Leroy Ambrose said:The Red Robin said:What I don't understand is veggies thinking they're doing everyone a favour by not eating meat and don't eat meat because they think its cruel. Then they eat fish when actually, to kill a fish you have to take it out of its natural environment and starve it of oxygen and water to kill it. Nice and humane that.
North Atlantic is one heck of a farm;-)0 -
This thead sparked my interest as I have been vegan for 12 years now. What makes me laugh is that most people who condone the slaughter and exploitation of animals are dead against racism, homophobia etc. How about speciesism. What gives anyone the right to take the life of another living being just because they do not have the intelligence to speak out and stand up for themselves. Would you kill, cook and eat a human if he was mentally ill?
Food for thought maybe?0 -
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Speciesism!! Now I have heard it all. Look if you don't want to eat meat or meat products that's fine by me but please give me a break. Oh and by the way Nature has plenty of examples of carnivorous and omnivorous animals what do you propose to do about them?0
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What meals do you eat as a vegan?0
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the cats flea collar just gone in the bin.BexhillAddick said:This thead sparked my interest as I have been vegan for 12 years now. What makes me laugh is that most people who condone the slaughter and exploitation of animals are dead against racism, homophobia etc. How about speciesism. What gives anyone the right to take the life of another living being just because they do not have the intelligence to speak out and stand up for themselves. Would you kill, cook and eat a human if he was mentally ill?
Food for thought maybe?0 -
will someone please think of the plants!0
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I can't remember who said it but I have often heard the quote "one day humanity will see the way we treat animals today in the same way we now regard the slave trade", let's hope that day is soon!BexhillAddick said:This thead sparked my interest as I have been vegan for 12 years now. What makes me laugh is that most people who condone the slaughter and exploitation of animals are dead against racism, homophobia etc. How about speciesism. What gives anyone the right to take the life of another living being just because they do not have the intelligence to speak out and stand up for themselves. Would you kill, cook and eat a human if he was mentally ill?
Food for thought maybe?
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Couldn't agree more with your comment DFT. Not sure who said it though.
In answer to your question JT, I eat all the things everybody else eats but none of it contains animals or animal products. Contrary to what most people think we don't just eat salad and vegetables! Being vegan today is much easier than in the past as there are vegan alternatives to most things.0 -
What sort of a specious argument is that? plants and fungi are living things, as are insects, parasites, viruses etc. By virtue of your argument, what gives you the right to take the lives of any of those?BexhillAddick said:This thead sparked my interest as I have been vegan for 12 years now. What makes me laugh is that most people who condone the slaughter and exploitation of animals are dead against racism, homophobia etc. How about speciesism. What gives anyone the right to take the life of another living being just because they do not have the intelligence to speak out and stand up for themselves. Would you kill, cook and eat a human if he was mentally ill?
Food for thought maybe?
For food - no problem. For medical research - no problem. For pest or disease control - no problem. For cosmetic research, hunting etc - clearly wrong. Like it as not, we have evolved as a species to be the dominant force on this planet. With that dominance comes responsibility, sure - but we are omnivores, and the animals we have bred for food wouldn't even exist as species in the form they do now without our interference.
Comparing someone's choice to eat meat with the slave trade is the most ludicrous of many extremely ludicrous things posted on here in the past.
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It certainly has taken a turn for the weird.
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Certainly has. Just to cover all bases, I won't eat anything that casts a shadow.0
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The excess consumption of wheat has been getting bad press in recent years.
Not so much that wheat is bad for you, but apart from the obvious uses, bread, flour, pasta etc - it's added as a filler to many other products that are bought in the supermarket. And maybe this excess consumption of wheat overloads our bodies making us at times feel a 'little under the weather'.
Also I read a while back that wheat has been scientifically tinkered with over the past 40 years to make it commercially more productive and profitable, and that gluten found in wheat has increased by up to 90% in that period - which is supposed to explain why so many people have gluten intolerance these days.
Rice and oats also naturally contain some gluten but apparently nowhere near as much as modern commercial wheat.
I ran out of bread last Saturday, so instead of buying another loaf I thought I'd give wheat products a rest for a short period.
Just an experiment. So this week, no bread, pasta, etc
I'm curious as to whether I'll feel any benefit.
BTW I've no intention of giving up wheat entirely.0
