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Traffic chaos in Kent

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  • I don't know about you, but I'd rather welcome young people who've fled ISIS than allow back the British youths who've gone to join them.
    Or how about it was kept open in the first place to look after our elderly that fought in wars for this country instead of forcing them to move. It was disgusting at the time it closed with dementia sufferers shipped off like some used cargo with the reasoning it would cost too much to renovate the building. So what are they doing now? Spending that same money so they can stick asylum seekers or economic immigrants or whatever bullshit names they want to come up in there, you really couldn't make it up. What about the homeless and vulnerable people that need help in our society? They couldn't see fit to turn the building into accommodation for them. Nothing like helping our own is there.
  • I must be the only lifer over the years who has ever paid for a job 'cash' with no paperwork. So I hold my hands up to making it easy for incomers to work unofficially. mind you I have never been in a position since my paper round days where I was paid cash (tell a lie, when playing in a pub band).
    I imagine no other lifer has ever worked, or paid for work cash in hand, and so illegal workers can rightfully be regarded with horror because of their employment behaviour by everybody but me.
  • brogib said:


    I'm a Bleeding Fart
    I'd get yerself down the Doctors brogib!
  • seth plum said:

    I must be the only lifer over the years who has ever paid for a job 'cash' with no paperwork. So I hold my hands up to making it easy for incomers to work unofficially. mind you I have never been in a position since my paper round days where I was paid cash (tell a lie, when playing in a pub band).
    I imagine no other lifer has ever worked, or paid for work cash in hand, and so illegal workers can rightfully be regarded with horror because of their employment behaviour by everybody but me.

    The odd cash job, but not a whole yearly income Seth coz that ain't fair
  • Calais migrant crisis
    Impact on Kent council social services

    629 - the number of unaccompanied children seeking asylum that require care from Kent county council
    220 - the equivalent number in March 2014
    £5.5m - funding shortfall according to the council
    Source: Kent county council
  • brogib said:

    The odd cash job, but not a whole yearly income Seth coz that ain't fair
    Or legal
  • brogib said:


    I'm a Bleeding Fart

    Sorry about that buddy, I'll remember the lube next time :smirk:
  • seth plum said:

    I must be the only lifer over the years who has ever paid for a job 'cash' with no paperwork. So I hold my hands up to making it easy for incomers to work unofficially. mind you I have never been in a position since my paper round days where I was paid cash (tell a lie, when playing in a pub band).
    I imagine no other lifer has ever worked, or paid for work cash in hand, and so illegal workers can rightfully be regarded with horror because of their employment behaviour by everybody but me.

    Absolutely mental comparison
  • I don't know about you, but I'd rather welcome young people who've fled ISIS than allow back the British youths who've gone to join them.
    But you can keep both groups out.
    You don't have to choose one and it appears most arnt people who've fled Isis.
  • brogib said:

    Would you say the same to Johnnie Foreigner, living in the UK with concerns about their homeland?
    Yes.
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  • iainment said:

    Yes.
    So, moving away means your opinion is no longer valid?
  • edited August 2015
    Apparently, 'we' may have to put up with this 'all summer' , what is the matter Cameron and all you politician's, try showing some leadership, and get the roads free, let alone trying to resolve the wider issue of this situation. Still you claim it is 'unacceptable' you are right on that, your leadership, is on this matter certainly has been so far, 'dithering' and expecting the French to sort this issue out will not resolve the issue.
    Whatever the issues in Calais, what are you going to do about the situation this side of the channel, you know the one that you are PM of.
    We have heard the 'talk, what about the walk' politicians eh!.
  • and now they're going to be parking the lorries at Ebbsfleet international.

    Beginning to wish they'd never built the sodding tunnel
  • It will take a driver to die before its dealt with
  • Ordinary people.... as if they care about you.
  • Unless I'm mistaken there are two issues here. The migrants wanting to come to the UK and making a nuisance of themselves in France and the industrial action in Calais.

    I was under the impression that it was the strikers that were causing the traffic disruption. Is that not the case?

    There have been camps in Calais for years they haven't changed significantly recently have they?
  • The migrant situation is causing most of the problems as the tunnel takes far more freight than the ferries. There are far more migrants in Calais now and they are becoming more organised in their attempts to get into the tunnel.
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  • A lot of eastern Europeans now in this country so leaves a bit more room for migrants:)
  • edited August 2015

    Unless I'm mistaken there are two issues here. The migrants wanting to come to the UK and making a nuisance of themselves in France and the industrial action in Calais.

    I was under the impression that it was the strikers that were causing the traffic disruption. Is that not the case?

    There have been camps in Calais for years they haven't changed significantly recently have they?


    the strike action by the french is sporadic and only last 48-72 hrs before they seemingly get bored and go back to work , and although that will create more than that timeline whatever it may be to clear the vast numbers of vehicles from this side and the french side now this will cause a huge back log of vehicles and on the uk side a 48 hr strike will cycle through by 72 hrs and be roughly back to normal


    , now the french road network especially the tolls is haulier friendly no charges in car parks at service stations and parking areas with basic facilities for washing and having the natural requirements taken care of without the need of a bush or bucket , to deal with any delays however if you are unfortunate enough to be in the first say 12 hr delay, you sit on a road that snakes for probably 4 miles 4 lanes in some parts and two in others , you cant get off you cant find facilities at night without walking through these scum and there is no protection for you other than what you bring to the table yourself, now you must bear in mind that this happens to be the road within the close proximity of the port in fact it only goes to the port or train terminal call it what you may, you can see border control you can see the police but they do not ever ride a motorbike or walk down this road as they are scared of what will happen to them, so its a pretty scary place especially at night ,

    over the last 5 months there has been widely reported incidents of immigrants over loading boats from nth africa to Italy and then they are ever collected by Italian defences and security even a british warship is there , But and this is the point you must remember for every boat you see the good old italians saving and stopping there are 2 or 3 that get in , why do the Italians allow this, its because there are 1000 plus people per boat and if they stop them all they dont turn it around they have to by law process the people like luggage and they become italy's problem , yes i am sure the EU give them a few quid but they dont want them so they let them in knowing that they will in some very small numbers stay in Italy but the vast majority will head to france and the tunnel, so in the last 5 months i have watched these numbers swell in the camp by the ferry and the vast open fields by the train atleast by double in number imo its at least 3 x bigger now than feb , and feb was the first time i thought i dont like this very much and is it worthwhile to my business to do these trips , what alternative routes are there and whats the profit margin look like going that way, now any work in holland and belgium the harwich to hook route works , but france , italy, switzerland forget it not worth it at all , So do i lose a contact that so far has paid me over 70k of which 30% is profit or do i risk the journey, the damage the delays and my safety

    this is 2015 this is not a wartorn part of the world , this is an area closer to me than newcastle , so forgive me when i say shoot them, have a deterrent not dogs of fences, get rid of them if you cant shift 5k in 12 months it will be 10k and with those numbers you have an army of cnts that life means fuck all too, carrying knives and i dont doubt have access to guns , look at the routes they can take to Italy and through Europe to reach Calais , id say several of those countries you can make contacts with sympathetic war lords who dont care how many AK47s you want you can have them ,


    and all of these people are un identifiable no documents and no history in europe ,


    and you want to help them , feel sorry for them, well crack on because i dont and if i go to wood green i can buy a gun myself and whos to say others arent thinking the same , could i pull the trigger and shoot someone no not a chance unless you are going to kill me or my family but its a thought that crosses your mind , how far do i have to go in a situation if i face it to preserve my life or my colleagues

    I will tell you this and anyone who knows me on here will i would hope back me up, i will defend my life and my friends to the end

    these people are scum and need removing not intrigating and accepting


    Racist Zenophobic no Realistic and honest
  • It's my perception that a good proportion of those who would cheerily exterminate fox-hunting British toffs would equally cheerily welcome unlimited numbers of foreign people with no paperwork who wish to come here even though their unknown countries of origin appear to be fit to leave their women and children behind in.

    What needs to happen is for Britain and France to co-operate, round em all up and start processing. Genuine asylum cases have to be dealt with in conjunction with the EU. Likewise criminal activity needs dealing with appropriately with punishment. And until a few (the media will ensure it doesn't have to be many) are publicly repatriated the problem will only get bigger and bigger. When it is seen that migration based on nothing more than "I want to come to your country so why shouldn't i, you can't stop me" will fail, less people will try. Sadly the same does apply to the Mediterranean boat people and the whole of EU has a responsibility to help Italy, Greece, Malta, et al with organisation processing and when appropriate, repatriation.

    Meanwhile the people of Kent will need to burn a few tyres beside the rail lines at Euston and hire a few of people on the inappropriately named black market to storm the centre of a few Cotswold towns in order to bring Cameron back from his latest bout of chillaxation to actually do something. Because otherwise his words count for nowt.
  • posted on jan 8th 2015 after the paris attack





    Pa

    They were french citizens of North African decent and that's my point

    I will give you a scenario, if I was this way inclined

    And I wanted to import a certain drug into the country, I would use the total lax controls of driving a non livery van over via the tunnel drive to Italy where my nth African contacts would be making land regularly, the route in from Tunisia to Italy is one that is used a hell of a lot

    Now if I could do that with drugs, I could do it with guns and people

    Without giving a geography lesson mainly as clem snide will confirm, because I used to get slung out of it most days

    Tunisia has a very easy Rte into certain terrorism full countries where buying automatic assault rifles is as easy as buying milk here

    If you add in to that the amount of french speaking north African countries where these pepole have contacts on the ground the countries like France, Germany, Holland, belguim are easy targets for these people and will continue to be so until that route is tightened up
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    People of Nth African origin and Somalians are a huge % of these scum on that camp , and you only have to see what 1 fucked up individual done in Tunisa to mainly British Tourists to see that if you put 100 or more with the same thoughts into that camp then you really have to question why they are not forced away and removed, what a shit thing to have be proven right on but come on open your eyes
  • kentred2 said:
    I think this comment from "Liz of London" says it all.

    " I bet the survey was conducted by left wingers! I've never read such piffle in my life. I used to be left wing; over the last few years I have become more conservative - that doesn't mean my intelligence has dimmed, merely that I have grown up."


  • kentred2 said:
    I am worried about the massive increase in our population when we don't have the infrastucture to cope with it.

    Schools don't have enough places, there are insufficient houses, the pressure on the NHS is getting worse and worse, our roads (even without Op Stack) are getting busier and busier. We're a very small country and can't keep allowing our population to increase at the current rate.
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