New fiver not suitable for vegetarians.
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This one might be ok..iainment said:
I don't know. If I did I'd think carefully about their diet. So probably not cats.ShootersHillGuru said:Seriously though @iainment. Would you get another pet once your cats have gone ?
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Nor would a lettuce leafcabbles said:
That's a point, they won't bloody work will they. That's completely passed me byi_b_b_o_r_g said:Just copied this off a Facebook pal
"Assorted idiotic arseholes. Absorbent paper banknotes are often covered in 'measurable' amounts of, bacon, chicken, mutton & beef fat, cocaine, real shit & crawling in dodgy bacteria."
No offence intended, his words not mine...0 -
Have to resort to a rolled piece of chicken skin1
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I was hanging out with some fairly militant animal rights campaigners and a little rich girl who wanted to be more militant than everyone else but had wealthy parents for when it all went wrong told me I didn't care about animals because I was eating a soya roll from a company that also produced meat products.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I've gotta say that when anybody presents themselves as a Veggie or Vegan to me, I don't batter an eyelid. I've cooked for Veggies many times and I'm quite happy to do so. BUT there are militant Veggies and Vegans in particular (my sister in law), who are happy to go on about how much healthier they are than meat eaters and then sometimes you get the 'meat is murder' bollocks trotted out.Wheresmeticket? said:@Iainment. You knew this was going to happen when you started this thread, didn't you?
I have to say when I was a veggie I didn't mention it unless I couldn't avoid it as inevitably some pompous twat would have to point out all the things I was doing / wearing that didn't fit their definition of being a veggie.
The pompous meat-eating twats wanted to make me out a hypocrite.
The pompous vegetarian twats wanted to be a more authentic vegetarian than I was.
I personally love meat and love animals at the same time. We try to rear as much of our own meat as possible (Poultry mainly, but sheep are on the way and maybe pigs further down the line) and I also like to go out into the countryside and get the meat meself. Being a massive advocate of ethical farming, if and when we do buy a bit of meat, it'll be direct from one of the farmers we know locally.
My Mrs was a veggie for 8 years and when we first come to France, the only thing she would really enjoy would be chicken breast out the shop, now she is content eating our own birds (as long as I 'deal with them') and she'll also eat the odd bit of rabbit and even boar.
What made you go back to eating meat btw?
I ate a kebab in front of her.
I draw the line at battered eyelids though.
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Hmm, a lot of wastage. Purity is already a problem these days, don't want to add inefficient consumption processes into the mixi_b_b_o_r_g said:Have to resort to a rolled piece of chicken skin
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You can't beat a nice pair of breastscantersaddick said:5 -
Over done it on the greens3
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/03/vegetarian-rainbow-cafe-cambridge-5-note-animal-by-product?CMP=twt_gu
A vegetarian restaurant owner’s decision not to accept the new £5 note because it contains traces of meat byproducts has come under fire from vegetarians and carnivores alike.
Sharon Meijland, who has run the Rainbow cafe in Cambridge for the past three decades, said she would not allow customers to pay with the polymer note as tallow – an animal byproduct – is used during the production process.
The businesswoman said she had been left shocked and frightened by some of the online reaction to her decision.
But she claimed that her own customers have been supportive of her stance.4 -
I think there's more brain in the new £5 note than she possesses...SELR_addicks said:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/03/vegetarian-rainbow-cafe-cambridge-5-note-animal-by-product?CMP=twt_gu
A vegetarian restaurant owner’s decision not to accept the new £5 note because it contains traces of meat byproducts has come under fire from vegetarians and carnivores alike.
Sharon Meijland, who has run the Rainbow cafe in Cambridge for the past three decades, said she would not allow customers to pay with the polymer note as tallow – an animal byproduct – is used during the production process.
The businesswoman said she had been left shocked and frightened by some of the online reaction to her decision.
But she claimed that her own customers have been supportive of her stance.0 - Sponsored links:
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Excellent.SELR_addicks said:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/03/vegetarian-rainbow-cafe-cambridge-5-note-animal-by-product?CMP=twt_gu
A vegetarian restaurant owner’s decision not to accept the new £5 note because it contains traces of meat byproducts has come under fire from vegetarians and carnivores alike.
Sharon Meijland, who has run the Rainbow cafe in Cambridge for the past three decades, said she would not allow customers to pay with the polymer note as tallow – an animal byproduct – is used during the production process.
The businesswoman said she had been left shocked and frightened by some of the online reaction to her decision.
But she claimed that her own customers have been supportive of her stance.
"Hi, I would like to purchase for the £40 meal for me and my friends. We have all put in our money of 8 fivers. We have no other money and do not have our cards on us."
"Sorry, I'm refusing to accept that money."
"So we are offering you reasonable legal tender for services rendered and you are refusing? Thanks for the meal, we'll get our coats."8 -
Fiiish said:
Excellent.SELR_addicks said:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/03/vegetarian-rainbow-cafe-cambridge-5-note-animal-by-product?CMP=twt_gu
A vegetarian restaurant owner’s decision not to accept the new £5 note because it contains traces of meat byproducts has come under fire from vegetarians and carnivores alike.
Sharon Meijland, who has run the Rainbow cafe in Cambridge for the past three decades, said she would not allow customers to pay with the polymer note as tallow – an animal byproduct – is used during the production process.
The businesswoman said she had been left shocked and frightened by some of the online reaction to her decision.
But she claimed that her own customers have been supportive of her stance.
"Hi, I would like to purchase for the £40 meal for me and my friends. We have all put in our money of 8 fivers. We have no other money and do not have our cards on us."
"Sorry, I'm refusing to accept that money."
"So we are offering you reasonable legal tender for services rendered and you are refusing? Thanks for the meal, we'll get our leather coats."5 -
I bet she doesn't get pilloried like that Irish bakery who wouldn't make the gay marriage cake.SELR_addicks said:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/03/vegetarian-rainbow-cafe-cambridge-5-note-animal-by-product?CMP=twt_gu
A vegetarian restaurant owner’s decision not to accept the new £5 note because it contains traces of meat byproducts has come under fire from vegetarians and carnivores alike.
Sharon Meijland, who has run the Rainbow cafe in Cambridge for the past three decades, said she would not allow customers to pay with the polymer note as tallow – an animal byproduct – is used during the production process.
The businesswoman said she had been left shocked and frightened by some of the online reaction to her decision.
But she claimed that her own customers have been supportive of her stance.
One rule for one....etc0 -
Oh @cantersaddick, I've never met you but love all your posts .....except this one. Have a rethink!cantersaddick said:
I think there's more brain in the new £5 note than she possesses...SELR_addicks said:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/03/vegetarian-rainbow-cafe-cambridge-5-note-animal-by-product?CMP=twt_gu
A vegetarian restaurant owner’s decision not to accept the new £5 note because it contains traces of meat byproducts has come under fire from vegetarians and carnivores alike.
Sharon Meijland, who has run the Rainbow cafe in Cambridge for the past three decades, said she would not allow customers to pay with the polymer note as tallow – an animal byproduct – is used during the production process.
The businesswoman said she had been left shocked and frightened by some of the online reaction to her decision.
But she claimed that her own customers have been supportive of her stance.
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There's no real comparison there.SuedeAdidas said:
I bet she doesn't get pilloried like that Irish bakery who wouldn't make the gay marriage cake.SELR_addicks said:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/03/vegetarian-rainbow-cafe-cambridge-5-note-animal-by-product?CMP=twt_gu
A vegetarian restaurant owner’s decision not to accept the new £5 note because it contains traces of meat byproducts has come under fire from vegetarians and carnivores alike.
Sharon Meijland, who has run the Rainbow cafe in Cambridge for the past three decades, said she would not allow customers to pay with the polymer note as tallow – an animal byproduct – is used during the production process.
The businesswoman said she had been left shocked and frightened by some of the online reaction to her decision.
But she claimed that her own customers have been supportive of her stance.
One rule for one....etc2 -
@Arsenetatters you're probably right. A bit stupid and judgemental of me. That comment really wasnt necessary I agree...Arsenetatters said:
Oh @cantersaddick, I've never met you but love all your posts .....except this one. Have a rethink!cantersaddick said:
I think there's more brain in the new £5 note than she possesses...SELR_addicks said:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/03/vegetarian-rainbow-cafe-cambridge-5-note-animal-by-product?CMP=twt_gu
A vegetarian restaurant owner’s decision not to accept the new £5 note because it contains traces of meat byproducts has come under fire from vegetarians and carnivores alike.
Sharon Meijland, who has run the Rainbow cafe in Cambridge for the past three decades, said she would not allow customers to pay with the polymer note as tallow – an animal byproduct – is used during the production process.
The businesswoman said she had been left shocked and frightened by some of the online reaction to her decision.
But she claimed that her own customers have been supportive of her stance.
I've explained in reasonable detail above why I think this should be a battle too far for most people but I guess I shouldn't judge people on their choices...1 -
The amount of tallow is tiny. But it's in there. The manufacturer of the notes and the officialdom that requested they be made didn't foresee the potential for angst over this. The notes need not have been made the way they were.
This thread, like some others relating to animals, gets subverted and all sorts of finger-pointing ensues. The thread is about animal fat in notes we use daily. Many people, for a variety of reasons, object to animals being farmed / injured / killed in the production of household goods, food and clothing and, now, bank notes. This opposition grows all the time and challenges the status quo, in all sorts of ways. The defenders of the status quo are, in the main, a conservative bunch. The Bank of England will back down over this issue and the protestors will 'win'. In this case, it is a situation that should not have arisen in the first place.5 -
There's probably more meat content taken in by breathing whilst walking past a fried chicken shop than handling the national debt in new fivers.5
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Apparently the combined total of 'tallow' in all the new fivers amounts to approx half a cow.0
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Why would you swerve or even have zn opinion on these fivers when you buy meat for 4 cats that also indiscriminately kill wild birds on a daily basisiainment said:
Your point being?JaShea99 said:Apparently the combined total of 'tallow' in all the new fivers amounts to approx half a cow.
**Sorry to keep on about the same point mate, but it's quite relevant to this discussion.**0 -
Yawn.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Why would you swerve or even have zn opinion on these fivers when you buy meat for 4 cats that also indiscriminately kill wild birds on a daily basisiainment said:
Your point being?JaShea99 said:Apparently the combined total of 'tallow' in all the new fivers amounts to approx half a cow.
**Sorry to keep on about the same point mate, but it's quite relevant to this discussion.**
See my many previous posts in reply to this opinion of yours.1 -
'Just' half a cow? Front end, or rear end? The answer, of course, should be 'No animal products in our bank notes'.JaShea99 said:Apparently the combined total of 'tallow' in all the new fivers amounts to approx half a cow.
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It doesn't matter does it, fair enough if you've got your pets and you're gonna phase them out so that you can live as a genuine veggie, but you haven't got an argument on these fivers (with so little meat / by product content), all the time you're buying cat food that contains more or less 100% meat content.iainment said:
Yawn.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Why would you swerve or even have zn opinion on these fivers when you buy meat for 4 cats that also indiscriminately kill wild birds on a daily basisiainment said:
Your point being?JaShea99 said:Apparently the combined total of 'tallow' in all the new fivers amounts to approx half a cow.
**Sorry to keep on about the same point mate, but it's quite relevant to this discussion.**
See my many previous posts in reply to this opinion of yours.0 -
I think the argument is that they could've been made without the animal product, not that anybody has a cat.
To mention the cat is more like an argument that goes vegetarians shouldn't care for cats, not that fivers should or shouldn't have animal fat.6 -
As I've said before I'm a mass of contradictions. I'm not going to have the cats put down, so with me or without me they'll eat. It doesn't actuaĺly make any difference if it's with me or another.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It doesn't matter does it, fair enough if you've got your pets and you're gonna phase them out so that you can live as a genuine veggie, but you haven't got an argument on these fivers (with so little meat / by product content), all the time you're buying cat food that contains more or less 100% meat content.iainment said:
Yawn.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Why would you swerve or even have zn opinion on these fivers when you buy meat for 4 cats that also indiscriminately kill wild birds on a daily basisiainment said:
Your point being?JaShea99 said:Apparently the combined total of 'tallow' in all the new fivers amounts to approx half a cow.
**Sorry to keep on about the same point mate, but it's quite relevant to this discussion.**
See my many previous posts in reply to this opinion of yours.
So I' ll keep them.
Sorry if you think that's hypocritical but that's the way it is.1 -
I'm not suggesting you should have put down, I wouldn't dream of it mate.iainment said:
As I've said before I'm a mass of contradictions. I'm not going to have the cats put down, so with me or without me they'll eat. It doesn't actuaĺly make any difference if it's with me or another.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It doesn't matter does it, fair enough if you've got your pets and you're gonna phase them out so that you can live as a genuine veggie, but you haven't got an argument on these fivers (with so little meat / by product content), all the time you're buying cat food that contains more or less 100% meat content.iainment said:
Yawn.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Why would you swerve or even have zn opinion on these fivers when you buy meat for 4 cats that also indiscriminately kill wild birds on a daily basisiainment said:
Your point being?JaShea99 said:Apparently the combined total of 'tallow' in all the new fivers amounts to approx half a cow.
**Sorry to keep on about the same point mate, but it's quite relevant to this discussion.**
See my many previous posts in reply to this opinion of yours.
So I' ll keep them.
Sorry if you think that's hypocritical but that's the way it is.0 -
I took it as an inference pal. That's all.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I'm not suggesting you should have put down, I wouldn't dream of it mate.iainment said:
As I've said before I'm a mass of contradictions. I'm not going to have the cats put down, so with me or without me they'll eat. It doesn't actuaĺly make any difference if it's with me or another.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It doesn't matter does it, fair enough if you've got your pets and you're gonna phase them out so that you can live as a genuine veggie, but you haven't got an argument on these fivers (with so little meat / by product content), all the time you're buying cat food that contains more or less 100% meat content.iainment said:
Yawn.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Why would you swerve or even have zn opinion on these fivers when you buy meat for 4 cats that also indiscriminately kill wild birds on a daily basisiainment said:
Your point being?JaShea99 said:Apparently the combined total of 'tallow' in all the new fivers amounts to approx half a cow.
**Sorry to keep on about the same point mate, but it's quite relevant to this discussion.**
See my many previous posts in reply to this opinion of yours.
So I' ll keep them.
Sorry if you think that's hypocritical but that's the way it is.0 -
No you're miles out. Just think you should enjoy the meat, then go all out veggie when the last one goesiainment said:
I took it as an inference pal. That's all.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I'm not suggesting you should have put down, I wouldn't dream of it mate.iainment said:
As I've said before I'm a mass of contradictions. I'm not going to have the cats put down, so with me or without me they'll eat. It doesn't actuaĺly make any difference if it's with me or another.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It doesn't matter does it, fair enough if you've got your pets and you're gonna phase them out so that you can live as a genuine veggie, but you haven't got an argument on these fivers (with so little meat / by product content), all the time you're buying cat food that contains more or less 100% meat content.iainment said:
Yawn.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Why would you swerve or even have zn opinion on these fivers when you buy meat for 4 cats that also indiscriminately kill wild birds on a daily basisiainment said:
Your point being?JaShea99 said:Apparently the combined total of 'tallow' in all the new fivers amounts to approx half a cow.
**Sorry to keep on about the same point mate, but it's quite relevant to this discussion.**
See my many previous posts in reply to this opinion of yours.
So I' ll keep them.
Sorry if you think that's hypocritical but that's the way it is.0