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2018 January Transfer Window Rumours Thread (DEADLINE DAY from Page 56)

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    NapaAddick said:

    Who really cares what he sells for (or what he is worth) if we lose the player and Roland keeps the money.

    About 72m then?
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    Are Kent Live real? I mean, do they actually have reporters?
  • Beardface
    Beardface Posts: 1,128
    The Red Robin said:

    NapaAddick said:

    Who really cares what he sells for (or what he is worth) if we lose the player and Roland keeps the money.

    About 72m then?
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  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    Knowing how RD's mind seems to work, selling Konsa for £5mill probably adds £10mill to the asking price
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Scoham said:

    Kent Live asked KR about this :lol:



    He said he had never hear of Kaikai as well.

    Expect him to sign tomorrow!
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    If KaiKai signs on loan and then we sell Konsa but get him back on loan as KR wants, that will be 6 loan players, we are only allowed 5 in matchday squad, so who gets left out? and if Konsa is on loan and has to play, who would miss out, Pearce or Bauer?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    ross1 said:

    If KaiKai signs on loan and then we sell Konsa but get him back on loan as KR wants, that will be 6 loan players, we are only allowed 5 in matchday squad, so who gets left out? and if Konsa is on loan and has to play, who would miss out, Pearce or Bauer?

    I wouldn't worry too much on that score. We are Charlton and at least one will be injured.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    Konsa doesn't get in the team if everyone is fit, loaning him back would be a waste of money imo. He is a top league 1 centerback, and I think he will be a good championship centreback, but for me right now he's behind Pearce and Bauer, and to be honest id like to see Pearce and Sarr together
  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231
    edited January 2018
    Some prem teams crack me up, they go and sign a foreign player for 15-20mill, doesn’t settle in England, can’t hack the pace and physicality. But yet balk at 5mill, for a young up and coming CB?

    Like others have said, I’d rather him stay, as the money will only go one way.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    CAFCsayer said:

    Konsa doesn't get in the team if everyone is fit, loaning him back would be a waste of money imo. He is a top league 1 centerback, and I think he will be a good championship centreback, but for me right now he's behind Pearce and Bauer, and to be honest id like to see Pearce and Sarr together

    I disagree, our best defensive form was when Bauer and Konsa was our pair on centre backs. I personally rate Bauer over Pearce, and Konsa’s pace gives us something the neither Bauer or Pearce really have. Man for man Pearce might be a better player than Konsa right now, but the Bauer Konsa pairing is better balanced.
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Konsa definitely gets in the team if everyone is fit.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Bauer & Konsa for me.
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    Dailly & Doherty for me.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,930
    Pearce and Bauer. Pearce and Konsa second choice. Pearce and Sarr third.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    ross1 said:

    If KaiKai signs on loan and then we sell Konsa but get him back on loan as KR wants, that will be 6 loan players, we are only allowed 5 in matchday squad, so who gets left out? and if Konsa is on loan and has to play, who would miss out, Pearce or Bauer?

    Unless of course we sign Kaikai on loan meaning that’s our 5, and arrange a deal with whoever buys Konsa that he leaves in the summer at a price agreed now, therefore it doesn’t go down as a loan and he is still our player until the end of the season...

    (No inside knowledge on this, just something I have discussed with people myself)
  • OhEddieYouds
    OhEddieYouds Posts: 744
    edited January 2018
    golfaddick said:

    Bauer & Konsa for me.

    Bang on. That's our best pairing when all CBs are fit.
  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231
    Pearce is our best CB imo. Can always see a mistake in Bauer? I’d go Pearce/Ez
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Centre back pairing in this order for me:
    1. Bauer - Pearce
    2. Konsa - Pearce
    3. Bauer - Konsa
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    _nam11 said:

    Pearce is our best CB imo. Can always see a mistake in Bauer? I’d go Pearce/Ez

    This^ but the one pairing that doesn't work for me is Pearce and Sarr with the latter very uncomfortable in the RCB position on his weaker foot.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    edited January 2018
    Pearce gets in the team every time, if you disagree that he's our best defender then it's purely for his leadership.

    Alongside him my first choice would be Bauer and then Konsa (followed by Lennon then Sarr) who I don't rate as highly as most. His level will be far above League One but right now, it's not.

    I'd rather Konsa play in the Kashi/JFC role(s).
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Callumcafc said:

    Pearce gets in the team every time, if you disagree that he's our best defender then it's purely for his leadership.

    Alongside him my first choice would be Bauer and then Konsa (followed by Lennon then Sarr) who I don't rate as highly as most. His level will be far above League One but right now, it's not.

    I'd rather Konsa play in the Kashi/JFC role(s).

    Pearce has too many fouls in him. I also think his injuries have slowed him down & he's not as good as he was when he first joined.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    I cannot big-up a defender whose main quality is holding onto forwards and hoping the ref doesn't blow for a foul.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,848
    edited January 2018
    For defending against physical teams, Pearce and Bauer would be my choice, as Konsa lacks strength at the moment

    For teams with smaller, quicker forwards, Konsa's pace is more of an asset
  • Bangkokaddick
    Bangkokaddick Posts: 4,297
    The Red Robin said:

    £8m. Chris Powell built a title winning squad on less than £1m. Imagine what could be achieved if even a fraction of any money raised from selling Konsa went back into the squad.

    With six days of the transfer window left imagine the last-minute crap we might be forced to sign!
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    I think Konsa will leave on the last day of the transfer window. Making it impossible to bring in a replacement. Same as it ever was.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Pearce and Konsa for me.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,621
    Bangkokaddick said:

    The Red Robin said:

    £8m. Chris Powell built a title winning squad on less than £1m. Imagine what could be achieved if even a fraction of any money raised from selling Konsa went back into the squad.

    With six days of the transfer window left imagine the last-minute crap we might be forced to sign!
    The transfer window is a two-way Street. It’s not just about teams that are trying to buy players it’s also about clubs that are trying to sell them to bring in some cash or reduce the wage bill. If we are buying then there could also be bargains to be had, it all depends upon how desperate each side is and I dont think we (or Roland) are that desperate to sell and given the two loan players we’ve already got this month I think it won’t be the end of the world if we can’t get anybody else in.
  • DessieValley
    DessieValley Posts: 340
    Konsa has always looked too casual to me and took too long on the ball, so was that not that bothered about him going. In the last month he seems to have improved a lot in these areas. And his versatily will be a big miss.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    DessieValley said:

    Konsa has always looked too casual to me and took too long on the ball, so was that not that bothered about him going. In the last month he seems to have improved a lot in these areas. And his versatily will be a big miss.

    I think what impresses me most about Konsa is the fact that he is happy in possession and can therefore slow down things and not rush into a stupid pass. If a player closes him down quickly he does not panick, pushes the ball past him using a quick spurt of speed, puts his head up, and considers again. Classy and worth every penny of £8mil IMO

    Liverpool and Everton rate him at only £4 to £5 mil. He won’t walk into their first team now, but they obviously think at his age he is not far off. Makes me a little surprised that some think he does not make our first team, but hey ho.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Redrobo said:

    DessieValley said:

    Konsa has always looked too casual to me and took too long on the ball, so was that not that bothered about him going. In the last month he seems to have improved a lot in these areas. And his versatily will be a big miss.

    I think what impresses me most about Konsa is the fact that he is happy in possession and can therefore slow down things and not rush into a stupid pass. If a player closes him down quickly he does not panick, pushes the ball past him using a quick spurt of speed, puts his head up, and considers again. Classy and worth every penny of £8mil IMO

    Liverpool and Everton rate him at only £4 to £5 mil. He won’t walk into their first team now, but they obviously think at his age he is not far off. Makes me a little surprised that some think he does not make our first team, but hey ho.
    Completely agree. I'd always rather have a centre half like Konsa that can read the game before the ball comes to him, take his time and drive out with the ball, find a teammate and start an attack, rather than hoofing it and giving possession straight back to the opposition.

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