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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    nothing like a bit of misogyny by the leader of the opposition at PMQ's



    seth plum said:

    Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist?
    For the absence of doubt he definitely said it.
    Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her.
    There are other words.

    Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
    Where have I said I favour him?
    Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.

    Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
    I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
    Seth, that is a CL all time classic.

    I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.

    Simply brilliant.
    Fixed that for you.

    Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
    Yet you choose to ignore it?
    In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
    You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.

    "No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    edited December 2018

    People are worrying about someone muttering 'stupid woman'? This country has lost its mind.

    Be interesting to see the posts on here following the calm down dear remark.
    Those reactions were equally stupid.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    nothing like a bit of misogyny by the leader of the opposition at PMQ's



    seth plum said:

    Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist?
    For the absence of doubt he definitely said it.
    Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her.
    There are other words.

    Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
    Where have I said I favour him?
    Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.

    Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
    I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
    Seth, that is a CL all time classic.

    I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.

    Simply brilliant.
    Fixed that for you.

    Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
    Yet you choose to ignore it?
    In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
    You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.

    "No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".

    "but can you prove I am not accepting it?" - Seth, probably.
  • Although I'm personally not bothered about Corbyn calling May a stupid woman, I can absolutely guarantee if a Tory MP had said it about a female Labour MP, there would be outrage.

    Double standards

    Have you not seen whats been written on here, or on Twitter. There's defintely been outrage about it. Double standards haven't been applied at all.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    edited December 2018
    We really need cross party cooperation to "resolve" the Brexit crisis and what do we get.
    MP's arguing the toss over whether or not Corbyn muttered "stupid woman" under his breath.
    It really is too pathetic for words.

    It then escalated to Leadsom saying the Speaker had called her stupid, but he didn't apologise in the House either.

    Where's Guy Fawkes ? :wink:
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    i think whats more outrageous is that he denies saying it. Despite it being plainly obvious he's saying "stupid woman"
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989

    i think whats more outrageous is that he denies saying it. Despite it being plainly obvious he's saying "stupid woman"

    In the scheme of things does it matter that much ? I think not.
    The EU must be pissing themselves.
  • The man's just plain evil.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033

    i think whats more outrageous is that he denies saying it. Despite it being plainly obvious he's saying "stupid woman"

    Good timing for the Tories though to take some of the focus off of May’s deal in the last couple of days before the recess
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    i think whats more outrageous is that he denies saying it. Despite it being plainly obvious he's saying "stupid woman"

    In the scheme of things does it matter that much ? I think not.
    The EU must be pissing themselves.
    Well exactly, why make it into another big deal by denying it? Own up to it, apologise and move on.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    edited December 2018


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    Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?


    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence

  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729




    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
    You can’t prove he hasn’t supported any other leader though can you?

    GOTCHA
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,995
    se9addick said:

    i think whats more outrageous is that he denies saying it. Despite it being plainly obvious he's saying "stupid woman"

    Good timing for the Tories though to take some of the focus off of May’s deal in the last couple of days before the recess
    Absolutely ... but it appears that Corbyn ‘stupidly’ initiated it even though he knew he was being filmed.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219




    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
    You can’t prove he hasn’t supported any other leader though can you?

    GOTCHA
    and he does say "zionist" which is fine and in no way a cover word for "Jewish" as we know.

    Maybe rather than attacking Griffin we should attempt to re-educate him?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    edited December 2018




    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
    You can’t prove he hasn’t supported any other leader though can you?

    GOTCHA
    and he does say "zionist" which is fine and in no way a cover word for "Jewish" as we know.

    Maybe rather than attacking Griffin we should attempt to re-educate him?
    We need to invite him to parliament to be heard and given a fair hearing, he is our friend after all.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219




    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence
    You can’t prove he hasn’t supported any other leader though can you?

    GOTCHA
    and he does say "zionist" which is fine and in no way a cover word for "Jewish" as we know.

    Maybe rather than attacking Griffin we should attempt to re-educate him?
    We need to invite him to parliament to be heard and given a fair hearing, he is our friend after all.
    Can't see any flaw in that argument, at all. How else can we stop fascism?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I
    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    nothing like a bit of misogyny by the leader of the opposition at PMQ's



    seth plum said:

    Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist?
    For the absence of doubt he definitely said it.
    Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her.
    There are other words.

    Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
    Where have I said I favour him?
    Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.

    Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
    I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
    Seth, that is a CL all time classic.

    I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.

    Simply brilliant.
    Fixed that for you.

    Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
    Yet you choose to ignore it?
    In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
    You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.

    "No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
    You are simply wrong. I have not denied or excused anything, I have looked at the evidence, indeed a week or so ago Henry invited me to look at his 100 pieces of 'evidence' and weigh each of them up.
    (it was in a conversation about the use of the word 'abundance' I believe).
    The key bit that you have written is the word 'accept'.
    Accept it because you say so?
    If you're saying 'accept it because it is true', then forgive me if I choose to examine things to decide for myself if it is true rather than simply 'accepting it' because others say so.

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    nothing like a bit of misogyny by the leader of the opposition at PMQ's



    seth plum said:

    Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist?
    For the absence of doubt he definitely said it.
    Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her.
    There are other words.

    Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
    Where have I said I favour him?
    Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.

    Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
    I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
    Seth, that is a CL all time classic.

    I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.

    Simply brilliant.
    Fixed that for you.

    Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
    Yet you choose to ignore it?
    In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
    You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.

    "No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".

    "but can you prove I am not accepting it?" - Seth, probably.
    Are you trying to make some kind of point here?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    clive said:
    Now that is "stupid" behaviour - although nothing to do with her gender.

    Swift action by the party too which is to be applauded.

    By-election with a 600 majority should be interesting
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  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    seth plum said:

    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    nothing like a bit of misogyny by the leader of the opposition at PMQ's



    seth plum said:

    Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist?
    For the absence of doubt he definitely said it.
    Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her.
    There are other words.

    Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
    Where have I said I favour him?
    Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.

    Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
    I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
    Seth, that is a CL all time classic.

    I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.

    Simply brilliant.
    Fixed that for you.

    Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
    Yet you choose to ignore it?
    In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
    You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.

    "No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".

    "but can you prove I am not accepting it?" - Seth, probably.
    Are you trying to make some kind of point here?
    You can't prove i'm not.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448



    Nick Griffin

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    Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?


    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence

    Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back.
    If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    Loving this thread.
    Please keep it up chaps.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    seth plum said:




    Nick Griffin

    Verified account

    @NickGriffinBU
    Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU
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    Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?


    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence

    Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back.
    If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.

    You have outdone yourself @seth plum you really have.

    Read it again

  • seth plum said:




    Nick Griffin

    Verified account

    @NickGriffinBU
    Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU
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    Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?


    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence

    Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back.
    If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.
    10/10 for effort.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    THIS IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK.

    Other politicians do it other ways.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugailEn8U5o

    And yet again they're all at it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMpBN_MmX7o
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    seth plum said:

    I

    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    nothing like a bit of misogyny by the leader of the opposition at PMQ's



    seth plum said:

    Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist?
    For the absence of doubt he definitely said it.
    Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her.
    There are other words.

    Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
    Where have I said I favour him?
    Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.

    Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
    I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
    Seth, that is a CL all time classic.

    I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.

    Simply brilliant.
    Fixed that for you.

    Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
    Yet you choose to ignore it?
    In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
    You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.

    "No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
    You are simply wrong. I have not denied or excused anything, I have looked at the evidence, indeed a week or so ago Henry invited me to look at his 100 pieces of 'evidence' and weigh each of them up.
    (it was in a conversation about the use of the word 'abundance' I believe).
    The key bit that you have written is the word 'accept'.
    Accept it because you say so?
    If you're saying 'accept it because it is true', then forgive me if I choose to examine things to decide for myself if it is true rather than simply 'accepting it' because others say so.

    No, the key word is 'excuses'.

    One you continue to make as you don't like, or agree with, the facts.

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    I

    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    nothing like a bit of misogyny by the leader of the opposition at PMQ's



    seth plum said:

    Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist?
    For the absence of doubt he definitely said it.
    Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her.
    There are other words.

    Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
    Where have I said I favour him?
    Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.

    Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
    I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
    Seth, that is a CL all time classic.

    I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.

    Simply brilliant.
    Fixed that for you.

    Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
    Yet you choose to ignore it?
    In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
    You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.

    "No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
    You are simply wrong. I have not denied or excused anything, I have looked at the evidence, indeed a week or so ago Henry invited me to look at his 100 pieces of 'evidence' and weigh each of them up.
    (it was in a conversation about the use of the word 'abundance' I believe).
    The key bit that you have written is the word 'accept'.
    Accept it because you say so?
    If you're saying 'accept it because it is true', then forgive me if I choose to examine things to decide for myself if it is true rather than simply 'accepting it' because others say so.

    No, the key word is 'excuses'.

    One you continue to make as you don't like, or agree with, the facts.

    You are simply wrong.
    You may define facts to suit yourself, I am prepared to examine what is purported to be a 'fact'.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    seth plum said:

    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    I

    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    seth plum said:

    se9addick said:

    nothing like a bit of misogyny by the leader of the opposition at PMQ's



    seth plum said:

    Calling somebody stupid is one thing. Does ca!long somebody a stupid woman make you an eternal card carrying misogynist?
    For the absence of doubt he definitely said it.
    Personally I wouldn't have used the word stupid or woman when describing her.
    There are other words.

    Bloody hell Seth. I wonder what this bloke would have to do to lose your favour.
    Where have I said I favour him?
    Your defence of him in the face of mounting evidence against him, including misogynistic comments made by him just moments ago, suggests that you do.

    Is calling the Prime Minister of this country a “stupid woman” abhorrent and unfitting of a person who wants to lead the Opposition (and one day the country)?
    I am not defending him. I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.
    Seth, that is a CL all time classic.

    I'm not defending him I am engaging with the evidence presented which I see as a different thing.

    Simply brilliant.
    Fixed that for you.

    Sometimes truth does have a simple beauty.
    Yet you choose to ignore it?
    In answer to your question. No, I do not choose to ignore it, however I often choose to seek it.
    You choose to find excuses and not accept it, more like.

    "No M'Lud, although he was standing over the body, holding the bloodied knife, I chose to see a different thing".
    You are simply wrong. I have not denied or excused anything, I have looked at the evidence, indeed a week or so ago Henry invited me to look at his 100 pieces of 'evidence' and weigh each of them up.
    (it was in a conversation about the use of the word 'abundance' I believe).
    The key bit that you have written is the word 'accept'.
    Accept it because you say so?
    If you're saying 'accept it because it is true', then forgive me if I choose to examine things to decide for myself if it is true rather than simply 'accepting it' because others say so.

    No, the key word is 'excuses'.

    One you continue to make as you don't like, or agree with, the facts.

    You are simply wrong.
    You may define facts to suit yourself, I am prepared to examine what is purported to be a 'fact'.
    "alternative facts".

    Straight out the bannon playbook once again
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:




    Nick Griffin

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    Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?


    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence

    Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back.
    If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.

    You have outdone yourself @seth plum you really have.

    Read it again

    seth plum said:




    Nick Griffin

    Verified account

    @NickGriffinBU
    Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU
    More
    Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?


    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence

    Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back.
    If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.

    You have outdone yourself @seth plum you really have.

    Read it again

    seth plum said:




    Nick Griffin

    Verified account

    @NickGriffinBU
    Follow Follow @NickGriffinBU
    More
    Go Jezza! I wonder how many Labour activists the hysterical #Zionist media campaign against #Corbyn is re-pilling?


    Now, I think that what Griffin says is antisemitic but I'm sure @seth plum will ask for some more evidence

    Corbyn refers to 'the Zionists who were in the audience'...listen back.
    If that is an example of anti-semitism then I simply disagree.

    You have outdone yourself @seth plum you really have.

    Read it again

    I have listened to it.
    Do I also need to read the Daily Mail's unbiased commentary on it as well?
    Does Corbyn say 'the Zionists who were in the audience'?
    I think if you listen you will hear him say that.
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