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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Henry Irving said:
    "Darren Pratley was priceless"

    Says Bowyer.

    nuff said
    He certainly was, we wouldn’t have made it through the playoffs without him. Stood tall at two moments of deep crisis. 

    Darren Pratley: Free

    Semi-final saving goal in extra time, and inspirational leadership after a calamitous own goal in the final: Priceless 

    For everything else, there’s MasterCard. 
    Might come is useful for the running costs if the Aussies buy us. 
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    Isawsummersplay said:
    So are there two Sam Baldocks? And this Sam Baldock might not be the one Powell was after?
    George Baldock maybe ! His brother 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,838
    Henry Irving said:
    "Darren Pratley was priceless"

    Says Bowyer.

    nuff said
    Doesn’t mean we want him as a regular starter now though 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Just for clarification of course.

    My new Director is a Scottish lady from Edinburgh.

    A colleague's description of her before we met her was "She's a young Sweaty".

    Now is this racist, sexist or ageist?

    There's a prize from our HR team who can get nearest to correct answer.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,335
    wmcf123 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    "Darren Pratley was priceless"

    Says Bowyer.

    nuff said
    Doesn’t mean we want him as a regular starter now though 
    I agree and I think, far more importantly, Bowyer does too.

    Doesn't mean people should try to dismiss what he did last season.
  • hawksmoor
    hawksmoor Posts: 2,608
    edited July 2019
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,839
    Addickted said:
    Just for clarification of course.

    My new Director is a Scottish lady from Edinburgh.

    A colleague's description of her before we met her was "She's a young Sweaty".

    Now is this racist, sexist or ageist?

    There's a prize from our HR team who can get nearest to correct answer.
    All 3. I claim my prize. 
  • ashley
    ashley Posts: 531
    Addickted said:
    Just for clarification of course.

    My new Director is a Scottish lady from Edinburgh.

    A colleague's description of her before we met her was "She's a young Sweaty".

    Now is this racist, sexist or ageist?

    There's a prize from our HR team who can get nearest to correct answer.
    It’s either because she is a “sweaty sock “or more likely that she is a “ Nippy Sweetie “ . That’s apparently a Scottish description of a girl seemingly very pleasant on the basis of outward impression but far from it when you get to know her .
  • Aethelstan
    Aethelstan Posts: 542
    Isawsummersplay said:
    So are there two Sam Baldocks? And this Sam Baldock might not be the one Powell was after?
    There were originally two Sam Baldocks, but once they had both started attending school their parents realised that it was causing confusion so they changed the name of one of them to Gillian. Gillian did not like his new name so asked to be called "George".

    Bowyer is not fussy which one he signs. He just wants to "get another body in the building".

    Hope that clears things up.
  • Broadstairs_Red
    Broadstairs_Red Posts: 361
    Not rumour but if we are going to sign a striker from Reading then suggest Mark McNulty - apparently not in Reading plans for next season and had a great last season with Hibs and got a Scotland recall (big deal) also he is nearly 4 years younger than Baldock and can play wide or central ...

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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,290
    Broadstairs_Red said:
    Not rumour but if we are going to sign a striker from Reading then suggest Mark McNulty - apparently not in Reading plans for next season and had a great last season with Hibs and got a Scotland recall (big deal) also he is nearly 4 years younger than Baldock and can play wide or central ...
    Don't believe he is Championship standard, hardly done it above League Two in his time in England and although he had a decent spell at Hibs last season, we know that the Scottish League bar the two two or three teams are of poor standard.

    I know we are looking to sign players who are hungry to prove themselves at this level but we do still need to look at players who have previously had at least a half decent record at this level. 
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Where's the rumour from about Baldock?  After having gone through 3 championship clubs, he must be on very good champ wages.  Can't see it unless he get's a payoff from Reading, which is unlikely with two fat years left on his contract.  Plus he never plays a full season.  Seems most unlikely to me.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,696
    Do any ‘rumours’ actually turn into signings ?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,529
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Do any ‘rumours’ actually turn into signings ?
    Depends what you mean by a rumour? That can be anything Cawley naming a player we’re about to confirm as a signing in the same day to a random Twitter account making it all up.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,939
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    A 10 is a striker - one who comes deep for the ball to his feet / head who will play with another who goes on the shoulder or stretches defenders out wide (taylor). 1 more striker will complete the set - aneke and taylor first choice, bonne the up and coming bit part and a pace merchant hopefully to be added who can come on as our modern day martin pringle for the last 20. That or a fox in the box but personally i'd say the pace is more important given that taylor and aneke bot know where the goal is.   
    Bowyer plays a 4-4-2 diamond or 5-3-2/3-5-2 though, so by 10 he means the player at the tip of the diamond, or the attacking midfielder in the 3.
    nope - one of the front 2
    I'm talking about what Bowyer means, not what a number 10 may or may not be historically or in the wider football world. I agree in a 4-4-2 a number 10 is a striker, but Bowyer's talking about a creative attacking midfield role, which can also be described as a number 10. There's more than one definition, a 10 is either a striker dropping deep or an attacking midfielder just behind the striker(s).

    Watch the interview linked to above. Bowyer says:

    "Chuks is a number 10, so he's a midfielder. So at the moment we have Lyle and Macauley, so we'll be looking to bring in minimum 1 but hopefully 2 more strikers. We know Chuks can adapt, but that's not why we brought Chuks in, we've brought Chuks in to score goals from the middle of the park and to provide because he's very good at assists as well."
    fair enough - can't argue if that's what he said 
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,466
    DOUCHER said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    A 10 is a striker - one who comes deep for the ball to his feet / head who will play with another who goes on the shoulder or stretches defenders out wide (taylor). 1 more striker will complete the set - aneke and taylor first choice, bonne the up and coming bit part and a pace merchant hopefully to be added who can come on as our modern day martin pringle for the last 20. That or a fox in the box but personally i'd say the pace is more important given that taylor and aneke bot know where the goal is.   
    Bowyer plays a 4-4-2 diamond or 5-3-2/3-5-2 though, so by 10 he means the player at the tip of the diamond, or the attacking midfielder in the 3.
    nope - one of the front 2
    I'm talking about what Bowyer means, not what a number 10 may or may not be historically or in the wider football world. I agree in a 4-4-2 a number 10 is a striker, but Bowyer's talking about a creative attacking midfield role, which can also be described as a number 10. There's more than one definition, a 10 is either a striker dropping deep or an attacking midfielder just behind the striker(s).

    Watch the interview linked to above. Bowyer says:

    "Chuks is a number 10, so he's a midfielder. So at the moment we have Lyle and Macauley, so we'll be looking to bring in minimum 1 but hopefully 2 more strikers. We know Chuks can adapt, but that's not why we brought Chuks in, we've brought Chuks in to score goals from the middle of the park and to provide because he's very good at assists as well."
    fair enough - can't argue if that's what he said 
    He does also call him a striker at one point near the end, but I think he’s almost certainly planning on using him in midfield.
    two up top with him supplying the ammunition could be awesome.
    With the shot he’s got, teams aren’t going to know whether to close him down or track runners.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,412
    ColinTat said:
    Where's the rumour from about Baldock?  After having gone through 3 championship clubs, he must be on very good champ wages.  Can't see it unless he get's a payoff from Reading, which is unlikely with two fat years left on his contract.  Plus he never plays a full season.  Seems most unlikely to me.
    Started from this tweet: 



    A journo who covers Reading. How reliable he is we don't know but he has a fair amount of followers, a lot of them being Reading fans and he claims it's reliable news 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,899
    edited July 2019
    AppyAddick said:
    Was told today by a Reading fan we are looking at Sam Baldock.... 
    posted 2nd July... four days before above tweet
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,135
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    A 10 is a striker - one who comes deep for the ball to his feet / head who will play with another who goes on the shoulder or stretches defenders out wide (taylor). 1 more striker will complete the set - aneke and taylor first choice, bonne the up and coming bit part and a pace merchant hopefully to be added who can come on as our modern day martin pringle for the last 20. That or a fox in the box but personally i'd say the pace is more important given that taylor and aneke bot know where the goal is.   
    Bowyer plays a 4-4-2 diamond or 5-3-2/3-5-2 though, so by 10 he means the player at the tip of the diamond, or the attacking midfielder in the 3.
    nope - one of the front 2
    I'm talking about what Bowyer means, not what a number 10 may or may not be historically or in the wider football world. I agree in a 4-4-2 a number 10 is a striker, but Bowyer's talking about a creative attacking midfield role, which can also be described as a number 10. There's more than one definition, a 10 is either a striker dropping deep or an attacking midfielder just behind the striker(s).

    Watch the interview linked to above. Bowyer says:

    "Chuks is a number 10, so he's a midfielder. So at the moment we have Lyle and Macauley, so we'll be looking to bring in minimum 1 but hopefully 2 more strikers. We know Chuks can adapt, but that's not why we brought Chuks in, we've brought Chuks in to score goals from the middle of the park and to provide because he's very good at assists as well."
    The problem with playing Taylor and Aneke together is that neither of them are an out and out striker. 

    Aneke (as we know from what Bowyer has said) will play deeper and Taylor always wanders out wide. So if that happens who is getting into the middle? 

    Wasn't so much of a problem last year in league one as we had Grant for half a season or when we were dominating sides like we did in many games, but in the championship (especially in away games) where we might only get 2-3 chances, we need a striker who's going to get in the middle and take a half chance.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,890
    edited July 2019
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    A 10 is a striker - one who comes deep for the ball to his feet / head who will play with another who goes on the shoulder or stretches defenders out wide (taylor). 1 more striker will complete the set - aneke and taylor first choice, bonne the up and coming bit part and a pace merchant hopefully to be added who can come on as our modern day martin pringle for the last 20. That or a fox in the box but personally i'd say the pace is more important given that taylor and aneke bot know where the goal is.   
    Bowyer plays a 4-4-2 diamond or 5-3-2/3-5-2 though, so by 10 he means the player at the tip of the diamond, or the attacking midfielder in the 3.
    nope - one of the front 2
    I'm talking about what Bowyer means, not what a number 10 may or may not be historically or in the wider football world. I agree in a 4-4-2 a number 10 is a striker, but Bowyer's talking about a creative attacking midfield role, which can also be described as a number 10. There's more than one definition, a 10 is either a striker dropping deep or an attacking midfielder just behind the striker(s).

    Watch the interview linked to above. Bowyer says:

    "Chuks is a number 10, so he's a midfielder. So at the moment we have Lyle and Macauley, so we'll be looking to bring in minimum 1 but hopefully 2 more strikers. We know Chuks can adapt, but that's not why we brought Chuks in, we've brought Chuks in to score goals from the middle of the park and to provide because he's very good at assists as well."
    The problem with playing Taylor and Aneke together is that neither of them are an out and out striker. 

    Aneke (as we know from what Bowyer has said) will play deeper and Taylor always wanders out wide. So if that happens who is getting into the middle? 

    Wasn't so much of a problem last year in league one as we had Grant for half a season or when we were dominating sides like we did in many games, but in the championship (especially in away games) where we might only get 2-3 chances, we need a striker who's going to get in the middle and take a half chance.
    What a goal hanger type of player you mean? An Ajose mark 2 doesn't appeal to me, I'll stick with Taylor & Chuks or a +1 who puts a shift in for the team. 

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,529
    RedChaser said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    A 10 is a striker - one who comes deep for the ball to his feet / head who will play with another who goes on the shoulder or stretches defenders out wide (taylor). 1 more striker will complete the set - aneke and taylor first choice, bonne the up and coming bit part and a pace merchant hopefully to be added who can come on as our modern day martin pringle for the last 20. That or a fox in the box but personally i'd say the pace is more important given that taylor and aneke bot know where the goal is.   
    Bowyer plays a 4-4-2 diamond or 5-3-2/3-5-2 though, so by 10 he means the player at the tip of the diamond, or the attacking midfielder in the 3.
    nope - one of the front 2
    I'm talking about what Bowyer means, not what a number 10 may or may not be historically or in the wider football world. I agree in a 4-4-2 a number 10 is a striker, but Bowyer's talking about a creative attacking midfield role, which can also be described as a number 10. There's more than one definition, a 10 is either a striker dropping deep or an attacking midfielder just behind the striker(s).

    Watch the interview linked to above. Bowyer says:

    "Chuks is a number 10, so he's a midfielder. So at the moment we have Lyle and Macauley, so we'll be looking to bring in minimum 1 but hopefully 2 more strikers. We know Chuks can adapt, but that's not why we brought Chuks in, we've brought Chuks in to score goals from the middle of the park and to provide because he's very good at assists as well."
    The problem with playing Taylor and Aneke together is that neither of them are an out and out striker. 

    Aneke (as we know from what Bowyer has said) will play deeper and Taylor always wanders out wide. So if that happens who is getting into the middle? 

    Wasn't so much of a problem last year in league one as we had Grant for half a season or when we were dominating sides like we did in many games, but in the championship (especially in away games) where we might only get 2-3 chances, we need a striker who's going to get in the middle and take a half chance.
    What a goal hanger type of player you mean? An Ajose mark 2 doesn't appeal to me, I'll stick with Taylor & Chuks or a +1 who puts a shift in for the team. 
    Someone like Grant who has the pace and skill to offer a threat in deep or wide positions but is still a striker who will get in goalscoring positions in and around the box. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,839
    edited July 2019
    Callumcafc said:
    AppyAddick said:
    Was told today by a Reading fan we are looking at Sam Baldock.... 
    posted 2nd July... four days before above tweet.

    To me that just means someone made up something & an iffy journo picks it up & tweets it to make it look like he has some news. 

    We all know people hear something from someone & then post on here as "from the horses  mouth" only to find out the original "rumour" was all made up in the first place. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,982
    Scoham said:
    RedChaser said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:
    A 10 is a striker - one who comes deep for the ball to his feet / head who will play with another who goes on the shoulder or stretches defenders out wide (taylor). 1 more striker will complete the set - aneke and taylor first choice, bonne the up and coming bit part and a pace merchant hopefully to be added who can come on as our modern day martin pringle for the last 20. That or a fox in the box but personally i'd say the pace is more important given that taylor and aneke bot know where the goal is.   
    Bowyer plays a 4-4-2 diamond or 5-3-2/3-5-2 though, so by 10 he means the player at the tip of the diamond, or the attacking midfielder in the 3.
    nope - one of the front 2
    I'm talking about what Bowyer means, not what a number 10 may or may not be historically or in the wider football world. I agree in a 4-4-2 a number 10 is a striker, but Bowyer's talking about a creative attacking midfield role, which can also be described as a number 10. There's more than one definition, a 10 is either a striker dropping deep or an attacking midfielder just behind the striker(s).

    Watch the interview linked to above. Bowyer says:

    "Chuks is a number 10, so he's a midfielder. So at the moment we have Lyle and Macauley, so we'll be looking to bring in minimum 1 but hopefully 2 more strikers. We know Chuks can adapt, but that's not why we brought Chuks in, we've brought Chuks in to score goals from the middle of the park and to provide because he's very good at assists as well."
    The problem with playing Taylor and Aneke together is that neither of them are an out and out striker. 

    Aneke (as we know from what Bowyer has said) will play deeper and Taylor always wanders out wide. So if that happens who is getting into the middle? 

    Wasn't so much of a problem last year in league one as we had Grant for half a season or when we were dominating sides like we did in many games, but in the championship (especially in away games) where we might only get 2-3 chances, we need a striker who's going to get in the middle and take a half chance.
    What a goal hanger type of player you mean? An Ajose mark 2 doesn't appeal to me, I'll stick with Taylor & Chuks or a +1 who puts a shift in for the team. 
    Someone like Grant who has the pace and skill to offer a threat in deep or wide positions but is still a striker who will get in goalscoring positions in and around the box. 
    Exactly. Bowyer likes his strikers to be mobile and pacy.

    He'll be looking to bring in, either permanent or loan, a pacy mobile goalscorer like Grant.
    With our budget, I reckon that means a promising young striker from a Prem club.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,335
    Boywer said two for each position so that leaves us needing

    GK
    Left sided CH

    At least one striker

    Another No.10

    Three midfielders depending on if Lapslie and Morgan stay or go out on loan
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Henry Irving said:
    Boywer said two for each position so that leaves us needing

    GK
    Left sided CH

    At least one striker

    Another No.10

    Three midfielders depending on if Lapslie and Morgan stay or go out on loan
    Out of that possible 7. I reckon we will get in 5.  Any more i see as a bonus
  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 584
    Henry Irving said:
    Boywer said two for each position so that leaves us needing

    GK
    Left sided CH

    At least one striker

    Another No.10

    Three midfielders depending on if Lapslie and Morgan stay or go out on loan
    Right sided ch 
    I hope the goalkeeper is perm 
    Another striker on a perm 
    And midfielder on a perm 
    Rest loans 
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,239
    edited July 2019
    Henry Irving said:
    Boywer said two for each position so that leaves us needing

    GK
    Left sided CH

    At least one striker

    Another No.10

    Three midfielders depending on if Lapslie and Morgan stay or go out on loan
    With Sarr and Pearce, assuming you mean a Right sided CH..

    Would say two more strikers with another no 10 if you look at it as needing six players combined to play two strikers and a 10 we have Taylor, Bonne and Aneke. Williams or Oztumer should be 1 with 2 strikers probably 1 of them on loan to complete the six.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,290
    I have it down as:

    Goalkeeper

    Midfielder who can also play in defence, or defender who can also play in midfield (someone like Bielik, hopefully it is Bielik)

    Midfielder x2

    No.10 (hopefully Williams)

    Striker x2

    Permanent: Goalkeeper, No.10, Striker

    The rest on loan. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Dont get your hopes up i would say 

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