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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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Oztumer must be getting pretty fed up being buggered about by Charlton. That’s the last two windows that he’s been “in the building/in Greenwich Park/in Bluewater shopping” and not been signed.2
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To be fair, in January we wanted him, he said he wanted to prove himself in the Championship but soon realised it wasn’t going to happen. We revisited and came back in for him. It was Bolton who failed to bring in Ched Evans from Fleetwood and therefore decided not to release Oztumer to us, even though he didn’t player thereafter.Sillybilly said:Oztumer must be getting pretty fed up being buggered about by Charlton. That’s the last two windows that he’s been “in the building/in Greenwich Park/in Bluewater shopping” and not been signed.
This window, we don’t know what is happening with him but with all the issues at Bolton anyway, the problem could well be at their end if he is holding out on monies owed for example. We just don’t know. Or, we might have thought we could get better if we just hang in there that little longer.4 -
I don't think there was any "personal abuse nonsense"?Henry Irving said:Wow, no need for the personal abuse nonsense.
You referenced Lee and Bowyer but in both cases a substantial part of it was reinvested in the club leading to progress on and off the pitch.
The then owners had nothing like the disposal capital in the way Duchatelet has.
They chose to reinvest the money rather than pay off themselves, huge, huge difference.
Lee and Bowyer (funny how that pans) were both sold and the money wasn't directly invested in the team. It was invested in infrastructure and in some part to paying the wages.
Remember the the point Rick made about selling some land/houses and the answer was "well what player would you have sold instead?"
Paying himself off implied that he MADE money out of it, he is £70 odd million in the brown at the moment. Unless he finds some mug to pay him that back he is going to loose a lot of money.
As far as I am aware he hasn't personally made a single penny out of the club yet? Happy to be proved wrong. In that regard his is no worse than any of our previous owners. In all other measurable metrics the bloke is a cretin, a failure, a stain on our history.
Let's focus on what he HAS done wrong, let's not twist "fake news".9 -
Premierleague star of the future we was told. Thanks katrien ps you are definitely a would yaElliotCAFC said:Villa closing in on Konsa for £12m. Would be nice if Bower and Gallen get the sell-on fee to use in the market, but we all know it’s going straight in Roland’s back pocket..1 -
Sorry. Forgot to engage brain.Covered End said:
What does this mean ?harveys_gardener said:I was told by a Bees fan who claimed to be ITK that their sell-ons are for the whole fee.0 -
So are you going to enlighten us, as to what you meant ?harveys_gardener said:
Sorry. Forgot to engage brain.Covered End said:
What does this mean ?harveys_gardener said:I was told by a Bees fan who claimed to be ITK that their sell-ons are for the whole fee.0 -
I was one deal too early. If Villa sell him, their sell on is full fee.0
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Parzyszek? Passes height test. Scoring in Champions League tonight. Worth a gamble? Name sounds familiar?4
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Not even in the slightest bit bothered tbh with youRedhenry said:
You must be gutted 😀Braziliance said:That's Hull certs to go up as champions then, blokes a goal machine
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It hasn't though, it has just reduced the losses made by the clubElliotCAFC said:
I understand that - but that says nothing apart from we’ve had bad owners before Roland as well? There’s a huge difference between selling players to keep the club afloat and selling players to increase a billionaires cash flow. Even Powell got the money from Jenkinson to Arsenal. Imagine what we could have done with some of the Lookman/Konsa/Pope/Gomez/JBG moneyCafc43v3r said:
But selling players to cover costs has been "normal" for Charlton for longer than I can remember. I get the fact that no extra money has been invested in the team, if we had the semblance of a functional smt it might have been but how much of the Shelvey money, the Bowyer money or the Robert Lee money was?ElliotCAFC said:
Couldn’t give an exact figure - but pretty much every penny we have got from selling players hasn’t been reinvested back into the club at all. I’m not going to pedantically argue over the term “back pocket” - call it what you will, but the money certainly hasn’t gone back into the teamCafc43v3r said:
How much has Roland put in his "back pocket"?ElliotCAFC said:Villa closing in on Konsa for £12m. Would be nice if Bower and Gallen get the sell-on fee to use in the market, but we all know it’s going straight in Roland’s back pocket..
I can't count, on 2 fingers, the time a Charlton player was sold for significant money and the money reinvested in the playing squad. Funny enough we got promoted both seasons as well.
There are masses of things to criticise Roland for, but I share his concern at the finances of football, especially in the Championship. Just because some foreign owners are prepared to lose £20m to £40m a season, it doesn't follow that this should be considered normal4 -
That sounds ridiculous. Can't believe any club would spend £12m on a player that they'd get nothing for if they sold him.harveys_gardener said:I was one deal too early. If Villa sell him, their sell on is full fee.
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He means Brentford’s sell on is a % of whatever Villa sell him for, not just a % of any profit Villa make.jac52 said:
That sounds ridiculous. Can't believe any club would spend £12m on a player that they'd get nothing for if they sold him.harveys_gardener said:I was one deal too early. If Villa sell him, their sell on is full fee.0 -
Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still.
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More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye?AFKABartram said:Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still.0 -
If either were to go - particularly Taylor, obviously - that would be up there with selling Yann.Henry Irving said:
More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye?AFKABartram said:Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still.2 -
It would be worse IMO..... bearing in mind the current state of the rest of the squadValley11 said:
If either were to go - particularly Taylor, obviously - that would be up there with selling Yann.Henry Irving said:
More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye?AFKABartram said:Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still.2 -
Is Bowyer doing a presser today?0
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I suspect that most of our targets have been deterred from signing by the low wages being offered. If we are also counting on the likes of Cullen and Bielik returning, then I feel we are in for a disappointment.
The closer we get to the start of the season without additions to the squad, can only increase the likelihood of a poor start. And, as others have said, this is a very difficult league in which to successfully play catch-up.
After the euphoria of the play-offs, this pre-season is looking increasingly familiar to the last few years, and realistically the only thing on the horizon is a long and tortuous fight against relegation, something which, after 60 years as an Addick, I am all too familiar with.8 - Sponsored links:
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At least with Yann we got a replacement (Polish Pete).DamoNorthStand said:
It would be worse IMO..... bearing in mind the current state of the rest of the squadValley11 said:
If either were to go - particularly Taylor, obviously - that would be up there with selling Yann.Henry Irving said:
More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye?AFKABartram said:Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still.
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me neither...AFKABartram said:Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still.0 -
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agreed re Taylor but not Pearce - love his commitment and attitude but incomparable with losing Taylor or YannValley11 said:
If either were to go - particularly Taylor, obviously - that would be up there with selling Yann.Henry Irving said:
More to Taylor/Pearce talking about new deals than meets the eye?AFKABartram said:Seems to have all gone really quiet. Personally I wouldn’t rule out another departure still.5 -
Creepy tweeting that he doesn’t think Konsa has a sell on clause, but he’s trying to get confirmation.2
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Why add a sell on clause to a club who are pretty much an established Championship club at threat of neither promotion or relegation and is known to sell on its players for increased profitThommo said:Creepy tweeting that he doesn’t think Konsa has a sell on clause, but he’s trying to get confirmation.5 -
Exactly, it makes far too much sense doesn't it, so you can almost be sure that Roland didn't.ForeverAddickted said:
Why add a sell on clause to a club who are pretty much an established Championship club at threat of neither promotion or relegation and is known to sell on its players for increased profitThommo said:Creepy tweeting that he doesn’t think Konsa has a sell on clause, but he’s trying to get confirmation.2 -
Lee did its unlikely anymore bussiness would be dome before Welling. It seems to me they know there main targets and for whatever reason they are having to be patient.0
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Or alternatively......CH4RLTON said:Lee did its unlikely anymore bussiness would be dome before Welling. It seems to me they know there main targets and for whatever reason they are having to be patient.
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Konza gone. I hate Roland. The guy is a twerp. Aribo, Gonez, and Konza. All good players. If that man had any football sense or logic he would have been a lot of money on those deals. We would have a healthy transfer kitty by now.1
