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Charlton Athletic v Nottingham Forest | Wed 21 August | POST-MATCH VIEWS

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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    That first half was absolutely brilliant. Simply one of the best halves of football I’ve seen us play in a long time. Maybe Walsall at home on New Year’s Day. We were fantastic.

    However, we should have been more than 1-0 up. That is really what hurt us.

    Bow shouldn’t ever have made the subs when defending a corner. It sends panic and disorganisation throughout. Let’s deal with the corner and get it out of play. Then make the subs. It really disappointed me. But he will learn.

    Overall, I thought Oztumer was excellent, Oshilaja too. I don’t think Aneke really done anything when he came on but Leko was tired.

    It’s a good point against a decent side, but we made them look poor tonight because we were that good at times. Two points dropped but we must take confidence and the positives because it was a thoroughly enjoyable game where we were outstanding in long periods. 
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Oshilaja was superb tonight.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    That first half football we played was sublime at times.
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,701
    edited August 2019
    Best half of football for many years, total domination.

    Bloody unlucky not to win, but Bowyer and co are building something special here.

    Bring on Brentford.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,626
    edited August 2019
    That football we witnessed deserves a new song to be sung and ladies and gentlemen may I suggest  appropriately for the Valley it’s by The Who...Pinball Wizard...that football tonight  was like watching a pinball, but only faster

    ever since I was a young boy 
    i’ve watched them play football 
    from Carlisle down to Brighton 
    I must have seen them all
    but I ain’t seen nothing like it
    in any amusement hall
    those Bowyer football wizards
    sure play a mean pinball...
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Magnificent first half. In fact, best I’ve seen since we outplayed Spurs at the valley many years ago ( can’t remember when ). Bowyer starting to look as if he is putting together a jigsaw. Once all the pieces are in place we will see his dream, we are capable , with some January help from Belgium, of a play off place and another trip to Wembley. I really do think so.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited August 2019
    Best half of football for many years, total domination.

    Bloody unlucky not to win, but Bowyer and co are building something special here.

    Bring on Brentford.
    You can't wing the way we played in the first half - you have to be a bit special. Bowyer just has to tweak things and get the team 10% fitter and we will see more of that I'm sure. How many other sides can play like that is the valid question? Forest ultimately got a point, because they defended well and their keeper (Who it feels to me always has a mistake in him btw) had a very good game. I had them as one of the better sides in the division before today and I still have them there. They are just not as good as us.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,653
    edited August 2019
    Proud of the lads tonight, thought they put in a shift.

    I thought we dominated for 60 odd minutes, and were the better side.

    However, You’ve got to put your chances away, if you want to win matches.

    Thought Deji looked really good, like he’d played there all the time , and Oztumer, wow what a debut, different gravy, and dare I get carried away and say will give Johnnie Williams a run for his money in the performance stakes.

    Which is a good thing, if it means players know they are going to be tested and pushed to keep their place in the side.

    Thought we played some lovely stuff at times, said to my son, wow we are miles better than last season.

    If we play like that for the rest of the season, we’ll have no worries with staying up.

    We just seemed to run out of steam a bit, we needed that 2nd goal, not going to get on Leko’s Back for the miss, as we know that’s a part of his game that needs improving, rather have him than Harriott any day, he makes things happen.

    Bit disappointed with Chuks, hoped for more, and have seen him play better, thought Field looked good, will be interesting to see what team selection Lee goes for against Brentford.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,659
    edited August 2019
    The first half was so dominant that it reminded me of Huddersfield away a few seasons ago. It was disappointing we couldn't sustain it in the second half but at least we now know we've got it in the locker. 
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    I should be pissed off after dropping two points but am still buzzing after that. Shame we couldn’t finish them off but if we play like that each week we will scare the living daylights out of a lot of teams. Adomah is quality.

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    I don't understand it...'don't make a sub at a corner.'

    Everybody kept concentration apart from an unfortunate mistake by Lockyer. So stop trying to be Gary Neville in his inaccurate analytical truck and maybe read the ACTUAL passage of play that occured. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,880
    I thought the draw was overall probably a fair result, and impressive that we could give Forest such a good game while resting 3 of our best players this season.

    We were brilliant in the first half, some superb football but it's not as if we created and missed loads of chances, as there was some excellent defending from Forest in the box and their keeper was excellent at actually keeping (and terrible at kicking!). The one bad miss was Leko's in the second half, but other than that Forest dominated after the restart as we somewhat faded, maybe we put too much effort into the first half?

    Was really impressed with Oshilaja, the way he played tonight he's wasted as a CB. He looked a really good footballer, one of his passes to Taylor showed lovely touch. Oztumer had an excellent debut, we didn't miss Williams at all. Field was ok but nothing special. Cullen was busy as ever, but his dead balls were disappointing tonight.

    Thought we went a bit route 1 when Chuks came on, but that was also partially down to the midfield tiring. 
  • Masicat, unless you have a different match in mind, we dominated Spurs in cup at WHL bit were undone in replay at Valley. Dave Madden superb.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,534
    mendonca said:
    I don't understand it...'don't make a sub at a corner.'

    Everybody kept concentration apart from an unfortunate mistake by Lockyer. So stop trying to be Gary Neville in his inaccurate analytical truck and maybe read the ACTUAL passage of play that occured. 
    Said it above. Pratley was slow to react and Adomah got there first after it bounced off Lockyer.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    Oh - and how great was it that we scored while they were singing "Oh City Ground"!!
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,172
    Dazzler21 said:
    2 point average will see us to safety. 
    A 2 point average would give us 92 points and promotion...
  • Cullen and the midfield in the first half were just mesmerising. 

    Forest always felt a threat though, so a draw was in the end not a surprise. Expect them to be up there at the end of the season. The subs they brought on were particularly strong and had an impact. 

    Great game and atmosphere.

    Be interesting to see who he starts on Saturday. 
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    That football we witnessed deserves a new song to be sung and ladies and gentlemen may I suggest  appropriately for the Valley it’s by The Who...Pinball Wizard...that football tonight  was like watching a pinball, but only faster

    ever since I was a young boy 
    i’ve watched them play football 
    from Carlisle down to Brighton 
    I must have seen them all
    but I ain’t seen nothing like it
    in any amusement hall
    those Bowyer football wizards
    sure play a mean pinball...
    Have a Tommy film night organised with mates tomorrow night. Spot on I say.

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    edited August 2019
    Cullen 6.5?  FFS!!!
    He certainly wasn't near a 9. Poor corners, poor free kicks. Wayward passing for the first 30 minutes. 

    He improved passing and tackling second half, but certainly not enough for a 9.

    P.s NO COMMENTS ON THE PLAYER RATINGS THREAD - as requested by Lancs.
  • Unbelievable first half, probably the best I've seen us play. Our passing and movement was excellent and we were so quick to press them when they had the ball, we should have been 2 or three up by ht. It was always going to be hard to keep it up for 90 minutes and unfortunately we let them back into it. Frustrating, but a great game to watch and the players can be proud of their efforts and the way they played.  
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    My opinions:

    Phillips - Didn't have anything to do, couldn't save the goal
    Oshilija - MOTM for me, outstanding performance, in both halves of the pitch
    Lockyer - Fantastic but was poor for the goal
    Sarr - 2 or 3 terrible passes but largely untrobled and dominant
    Field - Wasn't fit enough, tidy first half, awful second and lucky not to give away a pen
    Gallagher - Tired and ineffective last 20 and should have done better with early chance (great touch to turn away from defender). Decent overall
    Cullen - Usual self, very solid
    Oztumer - Tidy but faded. 
    Taylor - Great finish and brilliant work for Leko's chance. Overall not one of his best games though. 
    Leko - Frustrating but showed glimpses of quality, will imagine that's going to be the norm with him. 

    Overall we were very unlucky not to win. That first half was outstanding. Only slight criticism of Bowyer's selection as it was obvious that both Field and Oztumer would need to be substituted. But we played excellent first half and had a couple of decent chances. Not finishing those cost us but showed we can be competitve. If Hemed gets one of those chances tonight he scores and we win. 

    We played them off the park with Kayal, Williams, Hemed, Aneke, Pearce and Solly not playing, we have outstanding strength. 

    Special mention to Oshilija, I thought he was absolutely brilliant. Maybe we need another CB and Oshilija competes for the RB spot?

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cullen and the midfield in the first half were just mesmerising. 

    Forest always felt a threat though, so a draw was in the end not a surprise. Expect them to be up there at the end of the season. The subs they brought on were particularly strong and had an impact. 

    Great game and atmosphere.

    Be interesting to see who he starts on Saturday. 
    Disagree with that, I genuinely didn't feel threatened all game (maybe only Adomah who showed flashes but still did little other than score!). The only time they had a chance was lucky or we played ourself into trouble. Thought Lockyer was great but should have done much better with the goal. 
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,461
    Croydon said:
    Who was it who gave the ball away at the corner?
    Fox
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    edited August 2019
    Personally I thought the subs were badly timed and caused us to fall backwards and lose all momentum. 

    From the half we seemed to lose control in midfield and lost presence up top. 

    Oshilaja man of the match. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,880
    I admire Phil Parkinson, but it baffles me that Oztumer was such a bit part player for Bolton last season when you saw what he did tonight when not even fully fit.
  • 1-1 was a disappointing result to say the least. But there were a lot of positives to take from the performance. However, what really infuriated me was Aneke's work ethic when he came on. Didn't live anywhere near up to Bowyer's standards in terms of effort. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    LouisMend said:
    From everything I've seen, it seems like Taylor will just do the same to us than he did to Wimbledon. 

    He'll walk in the summer to a club at the top of the Chempionship/low end Prem club.