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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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Theres a difference between not being able to afford and not being prepared to pay what they want.31
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Is why I question if Bowyer / ESI have their value of players and wont be held to ransom - Of course if we go for Ibe its only going to be on loan surelyGarrymanilow said:
Sure, we apparently can't afford a Blackpool striker but we'll be going in for a player who cost £15m and has been at Premier League teams for the past seven years.jacob_CAFC said:0 -
True, but if we're not willing to pay £500k for an in-form striker then I'm not sure we'll be looking to go in for a player who originally cost 30 times that and is on £38,000 a week. Bournemouth would have to be very bloody grateful for us giving them those extra seats a few years ago to cut the price down to a point where we would be looking at him seriously
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I think what we need in order of priority is:
- Striker to replace Taylor.
- midfielder in the Cullen mould. One who can keep us ticking over we've lost Kayal so have a gap here. Mowatt?
- Striker 2 extra body to alow for injuries and allow us to use Green in a different way
- Creative x factor midfielder. Someone like Maddison who if the opportunity to sign came up it would be stupid not to pursue.
- Utility defender like the Shef United guy.2 -
Very loose rumour as we're not mentioned but Sky are reporting that Wigan are happy to let Devante Cole leave this window
Out of Contract in the summer; Hull and Luton are the two clubs that are named1 -
In your list, there are only two strikers currently at the club, Bonne and Hemed. Bowyer's said Aneke isn't a striker he's a 10, and Greene isn't a striker he's a replacement for Leko. If we get Gnanduillet, that's three. So if Taylor leaves, one more on top of Bonne, Hemed and Gnanduillet will make six? For someone who talks about numbers, your maths is a bit off.cafcfan1990 said:
Yes but obviously we are not talking about today. Unless we sign someone ASAP the position can't be changed can it. But going forward I find it hard to believe are going to have 6 strikers, don't you?AddicksAddict said:
And of your numbers, only one's a striker who's fit to play and he ain't even here it.cafcfan1990 said:
FFS I said in terms of numbers, I never said it was in terms of quality. Fucking half our squad is out injured so that could bloody apply to any position.AddicksAddict said:
You mean the "hasn't done anything at Championship level" guy, the "out injured for a while" guy, the "out injured and has done bugger all when fit" guy, the "out injured and done very little when fit" guy, and the "not actually a forward" guy?cafcfan1990 said:
Not sure. The Blackpool guy, Bonne, Hemed, Aneke and Green might be enough.CH4RLTON said:
Think if Taylor goes we will get another strikermattinfinland said:
Blackpool Striker Today, Barnsley signing middle of next week.CH4RLTON said:I reckon one announced today
Maybe loan CB/LB and that will be it imo
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My thoughts as well. Also serves as a convenient marker to other clubs who might think we will pay whatever is asked.ShootersHillGuru said:Brinkmanship by both parties perhaps. Blackpool trying it on knowing our striker situation and Charlton pushing back with we’ll move on to other targets. Wouldn’t say the deal is dead in the water yet.2 -
JaysusTheJay said:I reckon we'll get two in today.If we don't hear about any signings today, Twitter is going to be an even bigger cess pit than usual, what with the 12pm deadline for Saturday's game...I am absolutely not worried, becuase I'm very much still of the opinion that 21st is a massive achievement
This aged well
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Where are we going to play him then? Because Leko played as a striker 99% of the time.AddicksAddict said:
In your list, there are only two strikers currently at the club, Bonne and Hemed. Bowyer's said Aneke isn't a striker he's a 10, and Greene isn't a striker he's a replacement for Leko. If we get Gnanduillet, that's three. So if Taylor leaves, one more on top of Bonne, Hemed and Gnanduillet will make six? For someone who talks about numbers, your maths is a bit off.cafcfan1990 said:
Yes but obviously we are not talking about today. Unless we sign someone ASAP the position can't be changed can it. But going forward I find it hard to believe are going to have 6 strikers, don't you?AddicksAddict said:
And of your numbers, only one's a striker who's fit to play and he ain't even here it.cafcfan1990 said:
FFS I said in terms of numbers, I never said it was in terms of quality. Fucking half our squad is out injured so that could bloody apply to any position.AddicksAddict said:
You mean the "hasn't done anything at Championship level" guy, the "out injured for a while" guy, the "out injured and has done bugger all when fit" guy, the "out injured and done very little when fit" guy, and the "not actually a forward" guy?cafcfan1990 said:
Not sure. The Blackpool guy, Bonne, Hemed, Aneke and Green might be enough.CH4RLTON said:
Think if Taylor goes we will get another strikermattinfinland said:
Blackpool Striker Today, Barnsley signing middle of next week.CH4RLTON said:I reckon one announced today
Maybe loan CB/LB and that will be it imo
You can be rude if you want (I won't criticise your spelling of Green), but one on top of Bonne, Aneke, Hemed, Gnanduillet and Green does indeed make 6. Aneke isn't a striker but he can definitely play there. We have had 2 players for every position plus Aneke as the 23rd squad member.
It's just my opinion that we won't have anymore than the above numbers.
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Would also question how we'll play if Green isnt here to do Leko's role - We've barely ever played with wingers under Bowyer... the only time we play that sort of tactic is when we use Wing Backs in a 3-5-2 which is an area I cant see Green playingcafcfan1990 said:
Where are we going to play him then? Because Leko played as a striker 99% of the time.AddicksAddict said:
In your list, there are only two strikers currently at the club, Bonne and Hemed. Bowyer's said Aneke isn't a striker he's a 10, and Greene isn't a striker he's a replacement for Leko. If we get Gnanduillet, that's three. So if Taylor leaves, one more on top of Bonne, Hemed and Gnanduillet will make six? For someone who talks about numbers, your maths is a bit off.cafcfan1990 said:
Yes but obviously we are not talking about today. Unless we sign someone ASAP the position can't be changed can it. But going forward I find it hard to believe are going to have 6 strikers, don't you?AddicksAddict said:
And of your numbers, only one's a striker who's fit to play and he ain't even here it.cafcfan1990 said:
FFS I said in terms of numbers, I never said it was in terms of quality. Fucking half our squad is out injured so that could bloody apply to any position.AddicksAddict said:
You mean the "hasn't done anything at Championship level" guy, the "out injured for a while" guy, the "out injured and has done bugger all when fit" guy, the "out injured and done very little when fit" guy, and the "not actually a forward" guy?cafcfan1990 said:
Not sure. The Blackpool guy, Bonne, Hemed, Aneke and Green might be enough.CH4RLTON said:
Think if Taylor goes we will get another strikermattinfinland said:
Blackpool Striker Today, Barnsley signing middle of next week.CH4RLTON said:I reckon one announced today
Maybe loan CB/LB and that will be it imo
You can be rude if you want (I won't criticise your spelling of Green), but one on top of Bonne, Aneke, Hemed, Gnanduillet and Green does indeed make 6. Aneke isn't a striker but he can definitely play there. We have had 2 players for every position plus Aneke as the 23rd squad member.
It's just my opinion that we won't have anymore than the above numbers.
The only other option is we're getting someone else to play on the other flank (Maddison perhaps?) but then we dont have the depth to continue with the formation should we get injuries
Nor would it have made sense freezing out Fosu as that sort of formation would have suited him just fine1 -
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Terminology for attackers is a bit confusing now most teams don't play pure 442.
Indeed Fantasy Football shows this as Sterling, Salah, Mane, Richarlison and Son are all classified as midfielders, despite being attacking players who score lots of goals.
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Exactly. I was actually critical of the signing of Green, not as a player but I don't understand why we have signed a winger to the play him up top.ForeverAddickted said:
Would also question how we'll play if Green isnt here to do Leko's role - We've barely ever played with wingers under Bowyer... the only time we play that sort of tactic is when we use Wing Backs in a 3-5-2 which is an area I cant see Green playingcafcfan1990 said:
Where are we going to play him then? Because Leko played as a striker 99% of the time.AddicksAddict said:
In your list, there are only two strikers currently at the club, Bonne and Hemed. Bowyer's said Aneke isn't a striker he's a 10, and Greene isn't a striker he's a replacement for Leko. If we get Gnanduillet, that's three. So if Taylor leaves, one more on top of Bonne, Hemed and Gnanduillet will make six? For someone who talks about numbers, your maths is a bit off.cafcfan1990 said:
Yes but obviously we are not talking about today. Unless we sign someone ASAP the position can't be changed can it. But going forward I find it hard to believe are going to have 6 strikers, don't you?AddicksAddict said:
And of your numbers, only one's a striker who's fit to play and he ain't even here it.cafcfan1990 said:
FFS I said in terms of numbers, I never said it was in terms of quality. Fucking half our squad is out injured so that could bloody apply to any position.AddicksAddict said:
You mean the "hasn't done anything at Championship level" guy, the "out injured for a while" guy, the "out injured and has done bugger all when fit" guy, the "out injured and done very little when fit" guy, and the "not actually a forward" guy?cafcfan1990 said:
Not sure. The Blackpool guy, Bonne, Hemed, Aneke and Green might be enough.CH4RLTON said:
Think if Taylor goes we will get another strikermattinfinland said:
Blackpool Striker Today, Barnsley signing middle of next week.CH4RLTON said:I reckon one announced today
Maybe loan CB/LB and that will be it imo
You can be rude if you want (I won't criticise your spelling of Green), but one on top of Bonne, Aneke, Hemed, Gnanduillet and Green does indeed make 6. Aneke isn't a striker but he can definitely play there. We have had 2 players for every position plus Aneke as the 23rd squad member.
It's just my opinion that we won't have anymore than the above numbers.
The only other option is we're getting someone else to play on the other flank (Maddison perhaps?) but then we dont have the depth to continue with the formation should we get injuries
Nor would it have made sense freezing out Fosu as that sort of formation would have suited him just fine
We could be changing formation which is fair enough. I am not reading too much into links with Ibe or Maddison but if we were to sign one of them or similar then I would imagine that could be the case.
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I think Saturday and maybe Preston is a write off, whatever way you look at it we have short term issues. Unless a couple rabbits are pulled out the hat today.2
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If all of this is true regarding Gnanduillet, then I reckon Murray on loan would be the best immediate option (Glen....Not Richard). Experienced and probably be the right foil for Bonne/Greene
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Yeah fair point. But you have to look at the way them teams play, all with one CF/STR and formations such as 4231 or 433. We have only played like that on a few occasions with Bowyer.killerandflash said:Terminology for attackers is a bit confusing now most teams don't play pure 442.
Indeed Fantasy Football shows this as Sterling, Salah, Mane, Richarlison and Son are all classified as midfielders, despite being attacking players who score lots of goals.
Given this, it's hard to see Green playing anywhere other than as a striker.
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Cheers for that, bought my Preston ticket yesterday 😉.BR7_addick said:I think Saturday and maybe Preston is a write off, whatever way you look at it we have short term issues. Unless a couple rabbits are pulled out the hat today.2 -
Ibe is one that could probably play up top a bit like Green and Lekocafcfan1990 said:
Exactly. I was actually critical of the signing of Green, not as a player but I don't understand why we have signed a winger to the play him up top.ForeverAddickted said:
Would also question how we'll play if Green isnt here to do Leko's role - We've barely ever played with wingers under Bowyer... the only time we play that sort of tactic is when we use Wing Backs in a 3-5-2 which is an area I cant see Green playingcafcfan1990 said:
Where are we going to play him then? Because Leko played as a striker 99% of the time.AddicksAddict said:
In your list, there are only two strikers currently at the club, Bonne and Hemed. Bowyer's said Aneke isn't a striker he's a 10, and Greene isn't a striker he's a replacement for Leko. If we get Gnanduillet, that's three. So if Taylor leaves, one more on top of Bonne, Hemed and Gnanduillet will make six? For someone who talks about numbers, your maths is a bit off.cafcfan1990 said:
Yes but obviously we are not talking about today. Unless we sign someone ASAP the position can't be changed can it. But going forward I find it hard to believe are going to have 6 strikers, don't you?AddicksAddict said:
And of your numbers, only one's a striker who's fit to play and he ain't even here it.cafcfan1990 said:
FFS I said in terms of numbers, I never said it was in terms of quality. Fucking half our squad is out injured so that could bloody apply to any position.AddicksAddict said:
You mean the "hasn't done anything at Championship level" guy, the "out injured for a while" guy, the "out injured and has done bugger all when fit" guy, the "out injured and done very little when fit" guy, and the "not actually a forward" guy?cafcfan1990 said:
Not sure. The Blackpool guy, Bonne, Hemed, Aneke and Green might be enough.CH4RLTON said:
Think if Taylor goes we will get another strikermattinfinland said:
Blackpool Striker Today, Barnsley signing middle of next week.CH4RLTON said:I reckon one announced today
Maybe loan CB/LB and that will be it imo
You can be rude if you want (I won't criticise your spelling of Green), but one on top of Bonne, Aneke, Hemed, Gnanduillet and Green does indeed make 6. Aneke isn't a striker but he can definitely play there. We have had 2 players for every position plus Aneke as the 23rd squad member.
It's just my opinion that we won't have anymore than the above numbers.
The only other option is we're getting someone else to play on the other flank (Maddison perhaps?) but then we dont have the depth to continue with the formation should we get injuries
Nor would it have made sense freezing out Fosu as that sort of formation would have suited him just fine
We could be changing formation which is fair enough. I am not reading too much into links with Ibe or Maddison but if we were to sign one of them or similar then I would imagine that could be the case.
Maddison is the one that confuses me most and is why I'd be surprised if we signed him over anyone else from Peterborough - He's primarily an old fashioned winger, isnt someone who can play up top, nor do I see him in the No.10 role
Only way I could see him playing is in the role that we've seen Doughty occupying at present
But then again your playing 3-5-2 which means you can only play three central midfielders - One of Cullen | Williams | Pratley | Gallagher would have to miss out (provided that all remain fit for the rest of the season)
Ultimately would Maddison be happy to join us knowing he's not going to be playing first choice in those conditions?0 -
Again FA, if he isn't deemed good enough for a struggling team like Wigan, why is he good enough for Us ? I know he has great DNA but so does James Seed of this parish but he's not always in the Right place either.ForeverAddickted said:Very loose rumour as we're not mentioned but Sky are reporting that Wigan are happy to let Devante Cole leave this window
Out of Contract in the summer; Hull and Luton are the two clubs that are named
(Jimmy sounds a nice guy by all accounts)
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Fight, fight, fight...,,,,,,,,,,,,😉soapboxsam said:
Again FA, if he isn't deemed good enough for a struggling team like Wigan, why is he good enough for Us ? I know he has great DNA but so does James Seed of this parish but he's not always in the Right place either.ForeverAddickted said:Very loose rumour as we're not mentioned but Sky are reporting that Wigan are happy to let Devante Cole leave this window
Out of Contract in the summer; Hull and Luton are the two clubs that are named
(Jimmy sounds a nice guy by all accounts)1 -
Agreed, League 1 striker at best. Isn't setting the world alight north of the border.soapboxsam said:
Again FA, if he isn't deemed good enough for a struggling team like Wigan, why is he good enough for Us ? I know he has great DNA but so does James Seed of this parish but he's not always in the Right place either.ForeverAddickted said:Very loose rumour as we're not mentioned but Sky are reporting that Wigan are happy to let Devante Cole leave this window
Out of Contract in the summer; Hull and Luton are the two clubs that are named
(Jimmy sounds a nice guy by all accounts)
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😂 I went to the Hull 6-0 knowing full well what we were in for, just smash back as many pints as poss that’s my secret.RedChaser said:
Cheers for that, bought my Preston ticket yesterday 😉.BR7_addick said:I think Saturday and maybe Preston is a write off, whatever way you look at it we have short term issues. Unless a couple rabbits are pulled out the hat today.5 -
A worrying trend at the moment as there's no sign of cafc spending on a tested Championship player or even on Toney or even Tammy Abraham's doppelganger at lowly Blackpool.
Stay chill say the optimists but a dangerous game if you don't pay the going rate.
Still a very difficult job that Steve Gallen has, even more difficult if he has to find a replacement for Taylor on a league 1 wage?3 -
A club doesnt represent how good a player is thoughsoapboxsam said:
Again FA, if he isn't deemed good enough for a struggling team like Wigan, why is he good enough for Us ? I know he has great DNA but so does James Seed of this parish but he's not always in the Right place either.ForeverAddickted said:Very loose rumour as we're not mentioned but Sky are reporting that Wigan are happy to let Devante Cole leave this window
Out of Contract in the summer; Hull and Luton are the two clubs that are named
(Jimmy sounds a nice guy by all accounts)
Else West Brom fans could be asking the same about why they're going after a Charlton striker with their team in 19th
A good number of the signings that made up the League One winning team were signed from clubs beneath us, bet a lot of people questioned why we were going after Matt Taylor or Dale Stephens (I certainly thought that Dale being from Oldham would be nothing more than a fringe player to your likes of Mikel Alonso)
Same with Alex Mowatt, or Gnanduillet (If the move were back on) I'd just hope that the Management / Scouting team have done enough of a job to see the attributes that can improve us
After all as we proved with Michael Morrison when we signed him from Sheffield Wednesday, one club might not care but doesnt mean that the same player is going to be a failure at his new team0 -
One's salary expectations would dwarf what we would pay and he seems a player happy to pick up the cash for little to no effort and missing the work ethic. Massive no on him.0
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BR7_addick said:I think Saturday and maybe Preston is a write off, whatever way you look at it we have short term issues. Unless a couple rabbits are pulled out the hat today.
can't afford them to be write offs, lose both and with no game the following week we are likely to then play Barnsley with us in the bottom three and them above us ….0 -
the only thing i'm taking from Bowyers interview with SLP is this: “Lyle wants me to sign a new contract."
Why would Lyle want him to if Lyle intends to piss off? the drama continues!6 -
Coles League record isnt great tho, other than that one season with Fleetwood were he just got over a 1 in 3 average lol he has been pretty poor.ForeverAddickted said:
A club doesnt represent how good a player is thoughsoapboxsam said:
Again FA, if he isn't deemed good enough for a struggling team like Wigan, why is he good enough for Us ? I know he has great DNA but so does James Seed of this parish but he's not always in the Right place either.ForeverAddickted said:Very loose rumour as we're not mentioned but Sky are reporting that Wigan are happy to let Devante Cole leave this window
Out of Contract in the summer; Hull and Luton are the two clubs that are named
(Jimmy sounds a nice guy by all accounts)
Else West Brom fans could be asking the same about why they're going after a Charlton striker with their team in 19th
A good number of the signings that made up the League One winning team were signed from clubs beneath us, bet a lot of people questioned why we were going after Matt Taylor or Dale Stephens (I certainly thought that Dale being from Oldham would be nothing more than a fringe player to your likes of Mikel Alonso)
Same with Alex Mowatt, or Gnanduillet (If the move were back on) I'd just hope that the Management / Scouting team have done enough of a job to see the attributes that can improve us
After all as we proved with Michael Morrison when we signed him from Sheffield Wednesday, one club might not care but doesnt mean that the same player is going to be a failure at his new team
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Fixtures are decimated that weekend we dont play because of the FA CupLargeAddick said:BR7_addick said:I think Saturday and maybe Preston is a write off, whatever way you look at it we have short term issues. Unless a couple rabbits are pulled out the hat today.
can't afford them to be write offs, lose both and with no game the following week we are likely to then play Barnsley with us in the bottom three and them above us ….
Only two games being played on the Saturday in the League (Stoke v Swansea being one of them)
Oddly though unlike Charlton it looks like others have been re-arranged as Barnsley are at home against Preston the Tuesday after the latter play us
Is quite frustrating actually as looking at the fixture list between now and the end of the month there is only one game we should really be fearful of which is Barnsley v Huddersfield (this Saturday), every other fixture is pretty much top half v bottom half so hopefully everything goes to form1 -
Same here, in some ways it's quite cathartic going to a game when you know you're going to get stuffed, it takes the tension away!BR7_addick said:
😂 I went to the Hull 6-0 knowing full well what we were in for, just smash back as many pints as poss that’s my secret.RedChaser said:
Cheers for that, bought my Preston ticket yesterday 😉.BR7_addick said:I think Saturday and maybe Preston is a write off, whatever way you look at it we have short term issues. Unless a couple rabbits are pulled out the hat today.
Hull (as a place) was nicer than I expected too2 -
Me too mate and Huddersfield 0-5 in the same week, only positive was I never went to the Colchester cup debacle the previous Saturday.BR7_addick said:
😂 I went to the Hull 6-0 knowing full well what we were in for, just smash back as many pints as poss that’s my secret.RedChaser said:
Cheers for that, bought my Preston ticket yesterday 😉.BR7_addick said:I think Saturday and maybe Preston is a write off, whatever way you look at it we have short term issues. Unless a couple rabbits are pulled out the hat today.1
