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Preston v Charlton | Sat 18 Jan | 3pm KO | Post-match Thread

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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,381
    My thoughts exactly...  maybe that contract is "strange"
  • se9addick said:
    Are we in massive trouble yet ?
    I don’t think the situation tonight meets the strict criteria clearly laid out for “massive trouble”. 
    We're in SERIOUS trouble at present.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I think we’re going down. February is almost definitely the biggest month of the season for us. We need at least 3 quality players, I just don’t think it will happen. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited January 2020
    Absolute crap in the 2nd half. The quality of final ball is dreadful. I’m actually getting quite f&&&ed off with the Bowyer contract thing, lack of signings and our inability to go a game without giving the other team a goal.  We need bodies in now...not fair on the likes of Morgan, Dempsey and Davison to keep playing them. We can’t just rely on players coming back from injury either.
    Don’t know what the deal is with Maddison, but for me it’s gone on too long and we are wasting time. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,771
    I don't want to pick out players who are not ready, but that is the problem. When you are down to that you have to say we did ok. Same as we have done ok a lot of times, but it is OK considering and the considering is the important word here.
  • Disappointing, strong start with the build up for our goal making me think that today was going to be different to recent weeks

    Preston though were simply late in arriving and that goal did nothing more than sting them into life - They pressed and harried us giving our players absolutely no time on the ball, good goal for the first one yet ultimately could have ended up anywhere - What was criminal was the defending for Bauer's goal, all three Centre-Backs have been blamed for letting him have the free effort by various people yet all three deserve the blame (rather than just one) - The marking in the box was just simply all round embarrasing!!

    Introductions of Morgan and Oztumer gave us a little bit of hope, we got the ball down and started to play a little bit - Probably the best game I've seen from Hemed whilst Davison finally got involved

    Definitely need reinforcements and with the gap between the bottom three the thought of relegation should be on the back of our minds

    BUT... Under no circumstances should any of us be resigned to that fact - Football is a fickle sport, our luck changed for us after our impressive start and there is absolutely no reason why it cant change in our favour once again

    Get players through the door and there are still signs we can be playing Championship Football next season...

    Neither the fans or players should be giving up until its mathematically decided and is criminal if either set gives up before that happens!! - Its all well and good supporting the team during the great times, now bloody well support them in the bleak

    This season is far from over!!!
  • We cannot keep clean sheets and that is why we are in such trouble, we do not lose by much and do not concede more than two a game but it is mostly two goals a game and that is the trouble, if we could have got six clean sheets out of this pathetic run  then we could have ended up with ten more points. The players are just not quite good enough for this league, regardless of the first six games.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,823
    Reminds me of a number plate I saw in Ilkeston.

    130LOX. 
  • I think we’re going down. February is almost definitely the biggest month of the season for us. We need at least 3 quality players, I just don’t think it will happen. 
    Looking forward to the next tweet from Matt to raise spirits...
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,773
    edited January 2020
    We huffed and we puffed but in the end we lacked the quality up front . 
    Preston are nothing special but what they are is well organised and they know how to do the job . 
    Good thing is that other results went in our favour again but we can’t keep relying on teams below us to be shittier than we are .

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,071
    se9addick said:
    Are we in massive trouble yet ?
    I don’t think the situation tonight meets the strict criteria clearly laid out for “massive trouble”. 
    We're in SERIOUS trouble at present.
    Is that one stage before “massive”?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    The result was about as predictable as you can get.
    We need to get something v Fulham, who can be unpredictable.

    Then pray we can get in at least 3 players who are good enough for the first team.
    Players with the calibre of Taylor, Williams & Cullen.

    It hasn't been easy and I can't see it getting any easier to recruit in the next 2 weeks.
    Who wants to join a relegation fight, especially when the outcome is very uncertain ?
    Only chance might be offering them relegation clauses. Looks like it’s going to be League 1 players for us though. 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,822
    Regardless of Preston being annoyingly canny and us being annoyingly naïve, this has been the most frustrating game.
    I lost count of how many times our opportunities broke down because of poor decisions, poor communication and poor touches.
    Add into it a couple of defensive lapses and that’s that.
    Infuriating.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,773
    We are in serious trouble now . The new owners don't seem to have the funds to improve the squad    . Taylor and Cullen back soon I hope. 
    How are we in any more serious trouble than we we were a week ago ?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    We are in serious trouble now . The new owners don't seem to have the funds to improve the squad    . Taylor and Cullen back soon I hope. 
    How are we in any more serious trouble than we we were a week ago ?
    The squad is weaker then this time last week. 
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,867
    edited January 2020
    Yes, I’m worried. 
    But, somehow with our form we are still three places above the bottom three which shows there are some equally poor teams around who haven’t had the injury crisis we have.
    We face Barnsley, Luton, Wigan, Boro, Reading and QPR at home. The likes of Stoke and Brum  away.
    The phrase ‘free hit’ is being used a lot to almost justify defeats against the sides at the top. I’m not in total agreement with this but it wouldn’t surprise me if Bowyer is looking at eminently winnable games and ensuring we are totally ready for those.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,933
    We are in serious trouble now . The new owners don't seem to have the funds to improve the squad    . Taylor and Cullen back soon I hope. 
    How are we in any more serious trouble than we we were a week ago ?
    The squad is weaker then this time last week. 
    And far worse than last season 
  • se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Are we in massive trouble yet ?
    I don’t think the situation tonight meets the strict criteria clearly laid out for “massive trouble”. 
    We're in SERIOUS trouble at present.
    Is that one stage before “massive”?
    We reach massive in a few weeks...
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,933
    Yes, I’m worried. 
    But, somehow with our form we are still three places above the bottom three which shows there are some equally poor teams around who haven’t had the injury crisis we have.
    We face Barnsley, Luton, Wigan, Boro, Reading and QPR at home. The likes of Stoke and a Brum away.
    The phrase ‘free hit’ is being used a lot to almost justify defeats against the sides at the top. I’m not in total agreement with this but it wouldn’t surprise me if Bowyer is looking at eminently winnable games and ensuring we are totally ready for those.
    Luton will beat is and kick start there season. 
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,787
    We are in serious trouble now . The new owners don't seem to have the funds to improve the squad    . Taylor and Cullen back soon I hope. 
    How are we in any more serious trouble than we we were a week ago ?
    The squad is weaker, after losing Conor. And we have less time to make signings

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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,745
    Getting a bit bored of blaming the injuries. Senior players not doing their bit. Sarr at fault again, Lockyer sloppy, Pratley a passenger. Bizarre decision to take Green off, Davison offered nothing. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,053
    Are we in massive trouble yet ?
    Yes and we've been in trouble since Taylor got injured.

    I've been saying for months that fans keep saying there's no team much better than us, but conversely there are no teams much worse.

    All I've been saying these last 2 weeks is that you can't expect the new owners to wave a magic wand and get a number of really good players signed up immediately.

    If it that was simple everyone would have done it, whereas no one has.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,388
    Desperately looking for a silver lining....er, Hemed, Oztumer, maybe Dougherty...er, that's it I think. Created some opportunities in the last twenty minutes.

    Negatives.... 
    Failure to keep possession
    Throw ins
    Failure to cross the ball properly
    Failure to get shots on target
    No Cullen on the bench

    Sorry for the negativity. Heart goes out to those who travelled and got stuck in Crewe.
  • There are 4 games in January BEFORE the deadline closes, and so far we have 1 point out of 9. These games aren't "free hits" as they are ones we need to get something out of, and you can't turn form on and off.
  • Played poor today with lack of communication & general ability to play a passing game, which Preston ably demonstrated. I'm convinced this team can play better but we need the midfield to dominate with quicker movement on attack instead of get ahead, run out of players/options/ideas and pass back. Look at the stats - our possession 39% with 2 shots on target - it's really frustrating to watch. Credit to the visiting faithful -  you sounded great!
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Listened on Valley Pass, once again we sounded quite clueless outside of the first 10 mins and a short spell towards the end of the 2nd half. I understand the crippling injuries we have had, but with ESI in charge now I expected them to get at least one new body in last week, but instead we played kids again and only had 6 on the bench. Not sure taking Green off was the right decision either, I would have subbed Davidson for Hemed. Anyway, all I want to see now is 3 or 4 good players into the side, preferably before the Fulham game, and give the kids a rest. I think we are heading downwards at a rapid pace and HE may well have bought a League one side very soon!!
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    5 points out of the last 48 !!! That's horrific.

    I thought we would get a result up there. We can't even beat teams who are on a poor run.

    I have very bad feeling about the whole thing .

    Bowyer and Taylor need to sign THIS week

    ESI have to bring players in THIS week 

    All this "we will be ok when players come back"  is bollox.It assumes they will be on form and up to speed.

    I fear if we go down ESI walk away ,they play a few million in breach of contract to Roland ------- and we never come back

    The dark days havt gone

    We arnt minted

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Are we in massive trouble yet ?
    Yes and we've been in trouble since Taylor got injured.

    I've been saying for months that fans keep saying there's no team much better than us, but conversely there are no teams much worse.

    All I've been saying these last 2 weeks is that you can't expect the new owners to wave a magic wand and get a number of really good players signed up immediately.

    If it that was simple everyone would have done it, whereas no one has.
    That’s true but we haven’t signed anyone and despite having an injury hit squad we have lost players on top. Add to that Bowyer hasn’t agreed a deal and it is concerning. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    How did Hemed play when he came on?