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Lyle Taylor - Different Class

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,330
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Genuinely missed him getting booked today - what did he do?
    Ran off with the ball for about ten seconds after Luton had been awarded a free-kick. Goaded their keeper into trying to grab it off him. Went down dramatically. Hilarious and obvious yellow card, ref handled it well
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Played 90 minutes on 12 occasions this season, scoring 9 goals of his 11 goals.

    He’s scored 36 in all competitions in 64 games for us.

    I loves him :smile:
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    Leuth said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Genuinely missed him getting booked today - what did he do?
    Ran off with the ball for about ten seconds after Luton had been awarded a free-kick. Goaded their keeper into trying to grab it off him. Went down dramatically. Hilarious and obvious yellow card, ref handled it well
    Fair enough. Still, there’s a lot less of it and I’m okay with it when it’s efforts to wind up the opposition. There’s definitely a lot less of the dissent towards refs than when he first arrived and racked up 5 bookings on double quick time. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Leuth said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Genuinely missed him getting booked today - what did he do?
    Ran off with the ball for about ten seconds after Luton had been awarded a free-kick. Goaded their keeper into trying to grab it off him. Went down dramatically. Hilarious and obvious yellow card, ref handled it well
    Fair enough. Still, there’s a lot less of it and I’m okay with it when it’s efforts to wind up the opposition. There’s definitely a lot less of the dissent towards refs than when he first arrived and racked up 5 bookings on double quick time. 
    He spoke to a psychologist last season on ways to positively channel his frustrations to help the team and to stop the yellow cards. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Not sure why ESI can't make a concerted attempt to sign him on a juicy contract before the end of the season. Southall talked about a few marquee players and Taylor surely has to be one of them.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,648
    Leuth said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Genuinely missed him getting booked today - what did he do?
    Ran off with the ball for about ten seconds after Luton had been awarded a free-kick. Goaded their keeper into trying to grab it off him. Went down dramatically. Hilarious and obvious yellow card, ref handled it well
    Taylor was running towards where the free kick had been given. I know you can get booked for kicking the ball away after a free kick being given, Luton did this a number of times yesterday without getting a booking.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,796
    hudson-son-son said:
    As well as his clear MOTM performance, I gotta say I really enjoyed him as captain as well winding the opposition up and leading by example. If there was any way to keep him next year, I think that role would really suit him
    Captain or wind-up merchant?
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Going to cost us an absolute fortune to replace him this summer
    You mean we will try to do so with a premier league loan 
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    I think the only way you’ll tempt him to stay is by offering him a longer contract in comparison to others
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,818
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Not sure why ESI can't make a concerted attempt to sign him on a juicy contract before the end of the season. Southall talked about a few marquee players and Taylor surely has to be one of them.
    How do we know they aren’t?
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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    Leuth said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Genuinely missed him getting booked today - what did he do?
    Ran off with the ball for about ten seconds after Luton had been awarded a free-kick. Goaded their keeper into trying to grab it off him. Went down dramatically. Hilarious and obvious yellow card, ref handled it well
    He ran with the ball to where the free kick was given. It’s not like picked up the ball and ran forest gump style, down the tunnel, out of the stadium towards the station. Never a booking
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,330
    I think even Taylor knew he'd get booked! It was a masterful bit of shithousing tbf, if he wasn't already taking up 100% of Luton's brainspace before he certainly was then 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Elthamaddick said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Not sure why ESI can't make a concerted attempt to sign him on a juicy contract before the end of the season. Southall talked about a few marquee players and Taylor surely has to be one of them.
    How do we know they aren’t?
    I didn't say they aren't. I said what they need to do. If they are doing that great. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Offer him anything he wants. Massive for us over the next two/three years. 
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,957
    No player at the club would be put out if Taylor was offered a massive incentive to stay,they all know what he brings to the team.Ambition is the key,staying up is our first priority,then during the summer getting a squad together to mount a challenge.Dont depend on loan players,do the business early(as per Chris Powell).We do need a dominant centre back as a matter of urgency.
    I personally feel Lyle is very happy at Charlton,handled correctly this could be a golden era for the club.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited February 2020
    It is economics - to keep Taylor we need to offer him what others will offer him. That is why no other player can complain. I think it will be a sign of intent if we keep him, and he should be made Captain for next season if that is the case. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    This is the only story that counts for Cafc.

    Lyle stays for the next 3 years and Charlton ride the waves and gain momentum or he leaves and we struggle to stay afloat.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,924
    If he stays, we will be playoff contenders next season... cant blame him if he leaves for a pay day and premiership football though. 
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,658
    edited February 2020
    Lyles's goals per minute stats are better than any other striker in the league (only Mitrovic comes close). Pretty amazing for a forward who's never played at this level before. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,383
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Leuth said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Genuinely missed him getting booked today - what did he do?
    Ran off with the ball for about ten seconds after Luton had been awarded a free-kick. Goaded their keeper into trying to grab it off him. Went down dramatically. Hilarious and obvious yellow card, ref handled it well
    He ran with the ball to where the free kick was given. It’s not like picked up the ball and ran forest gump style, down the tunnel, out of the stadium towards the station. Never a booking
    only because he knows how shit South Eastern are. He would have been waiting there an hour.
  • CharltonKerry
    CharltonKerry Posts: 2,960
    I would also consider his long term future beyond football, so if you offered him say a 3 year contract with perhaps the possibility of a year’s extension if both are mutually agreeable, add in in the third /  fourth year he can do his coaching badges and be considered for say the youngsters strikers coach and then the possibilities of the first team striker coach. Bowyers says Bonne is a project therefore get Lyle to assist in this as well. The nans
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    If being honest, watching Charlton without Lyle is going to be incredibly boring.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    It is economics - to keep Taylor we need to offer him what others will offer him. That is why no other player can complain. I think it will be a sign of intent if we keep him, and he should be made Captain for next season if that is the case. 
    Yeah it is economics. 

    To keep Taylor will probably cost about 4 million pounds, more than he is on now. 

    To keep Taylor we will need to be serious about play offs next season.  If the 3 players with "an option" sign the extra year we still need in the region of 10-12 more players for next season.  They are going to cost more in wages, signing on fees and probably transfer fees than the players we got last summer.

    To satisfy both Taylor's ambition AND bank balance we would have to give it a real go next season which goes against what Mr Southall has said.  It might happen but I would be pleasantly surprised if it did. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,175
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    It is economics - to keep Taylor we need to offer him what others will offer him. That is why no other player can complain. I think it will be a sign of intent if we keep him, and he should be made Captain for next season if that is the case. 
    Well no, I think we need to offer him more than what others can offer him at this point. I think Lyle wants to challenge himself at the highest level, so if let's say Norwich offered him £20,000 and we offered the same I think he'd still go there because they're more likely to go up and he would be playing with better players. We will need to offer him a boatload of money and convince him that come 1st July we're going to invest massively into the team. His contract expires on 30th June so he'll have to take that on faith rather than evidence and I wouldn't blame him for deciding not to bother if a more convincing offer is on the table
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,279
    Unless he goes across the border he can't speak to anyone til June. So, I'd start looking at bringing in players early as possible and making a statement of intent
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,637
    edited February 2020
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Leuth said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Genuinely missed him getting booked today - what did he do?
    Ran off with the ball for about ten seconds after Luton had been awarded a free-kick. Goaded their keeper into trying to grab it off him. Went down dramatically. Hilarious and obvious yellow card, ref handled it well
    He ran with the ball to where the free kick was given. It’s not like picked up the ball and ran forest gump style, down the tunnel, out of the stadium towards the station. Never a booking
    There is no need for any opposition player to pick up the ball once a fee kick has been given. If a player does then they are justifiably in line for a booking imo. Taylor knew what he was doing & didn't seem too fussed that he was booked. I would have booked the gk too for grabbing hold of Taylor but refs are loathe to do this as they are then leaving themselves with a problem down the line if they want to book them for time wasting. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,175
    sam3110 said:
    Unless he goes across the border he can't speak to anyone til June. So, I'd start looking at bringing in players early as possible and making a statement of intent
    Well, more like they 'can't' speak to anyone until June. You can believe that long before June Lyle will be well aware of what's on offer elsewhere

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    sam3110 said:
    Unless he goes across the border he can't speak to anyone til June. So, I'd start looking at bringing in players early as possible and making a statement of intent
    Do people seriously believe this doesn't happen?  Bowyer and Taylor both know what Brentford were prepared to pay him last summer.  As far as I am aware he was never "given permission" to talk to them. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Garrymanilow said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    It is economics - to keep Taylor we need to offer him what others will offer him. That is why no other player can complain. I think it will be a sign of intent if we keep him, and he should be made Captain for next season if that is the case. 
    Well no, I think we need to offer him more than what others can offer him at this point. I think Lyle wants to challenge himself at the highest level, so if let's say Norwich offered him £20,000 and we offered the same I think he'd still go there because they're more likely to go up and he would be playing with better players. We will need to offer him a boatload of money and convince him that come 1st July we're going to invest massively into the team. His contract expires on 30th June so he'll have to take that on faith rather than evidence and I wouldn't blame him for deciding not to bother if a more convincing offer is on the table
    Norwich will most likely be in the same division. Yes, we would have to convince him we were having a go and offering him a good deal would help there. Of course he will have the same doubts as we have about ESI and they would have to be showing some intent. But if they do, well Taylor has to be top of the list and it is action that doesn't need to wait.

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