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Lyle Taylor - Different Class

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  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,757
    Best shot accuracy and best goals to minutes in the Championship. Any scout of a lower league prem team will look at those stats and say he's worth a risk. He is a brilliant striker and I desperately hope he will be with us next year as our captain but I will make sure I enjoy the next twelve games.
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,638
    From all of the info ESI are running a lean model, looking to increase revenues prior to spending similar in some ways to he who shall not be mentioned, yet at the same time Timer is saying how great Man city are, so it's a mixed message we are receiving. 

    We will have alot more clarity in the summer. 






  • If Lyle can bang in another 5-6 goals until the end of the season, then he should leave with a firm handshake and all of our best wishes.

    Of course I would love to keep him, but a two year deal suited both parties at the time, so we can hardly complain when he doesn't want to sign another one.

    Just hope that we are already well under way in our search for his potential replacement.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    edited February 2020
    Family seems very important to Taylor and he is a local lad. The coaching team have improved him significantly since he’s been here too - his pretty much a complete striker now and that wasn’t the case when he arrived. 

    We may not be favourites to keep him, but let’s not act like we have nothing to offer him.

    If a Premier League team fancies a punt on him though, I reckon he’ll go for that, but I don’t think he’s motivated solely by money - he seems a more nuanced character than that. 
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,638
    Replacing him isn't possible, from a footballing standpoint it'd cost us 5 million plus... and that is losing his talismanic energy and the connection between fans and team... 

    We will know if ESI have the right funding very quickly after we are safe, or the season ends.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    mascot88 said:
    Replacing him isn't possible, from a footballing standpoint it'd cost us 5 million plus... and that is losing his talismanic energy and the connection between fans and team... 

    We will know if ESI have the right funding very quickly after we are safe, or the season ends.
    If a Premier League club comes in for him I don’t see us keeping him. If that happens then failing to convince him to stay won’t prove ESIs funding either way.
  • If we manage to retain him that will probs my be one of the biggest coups in our entire history I would say. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Scoham said:
    mascot88 said:
    Replacing him isn't possible, from a footballing standpoint it'd cost us 5 million plus... and that is losing his talismanic energy and the connection between fans and team... 

    We will know if ESI have the right funding very quickly after we are safe, or the season ends.
    If a Premier League club comes in for him I don’t see us keeping him. If that happens then failing to convince him to stay won’t prove ESIs funding either way.
    And would be the perfect solution for both Taylor and ESI 
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,638
    Scoham said:
    mascot88 said:
    Replacing him isn't possible, from a footballing standpoint it'd cost us 5 million plus... and that is losing his talismanic energy and the connection between fans and team... 

    We will know if ESI have the right funding very quickly after we are safe, or the season ends.
    If a Premier League club comes in for him I don’t see us keeping him. If that happens then failing to convince him to stay won’t prove ESIs funding either way.
    Fair enough mate 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    For someone with such a big personality it’s easy to forget how unselfish he is as a player. He could easily up his own goal tally by shooting from wide positions, or even from staying more central, but he chooses to do the right thing for the team. 
    As for renaming the JS Stand the Lyle Taylor Stand, I think I’d prefer it if they printed his face on tickets sold to away fans. 👍
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Taylor is a monumental player. His skill levels,decision making and game awareness is right up there- i'm astonished he has only been playing in the lower leagues so far.
    Cant believe , in virtually the same move, we got money for Magennis and Taylor for free - incredible piece of business
    I understand what you mean to an extent but describing The Championship as a lower league is somewhat inaccurate. I reckon most people would rate Leagues 1&2 as the lower leagues, not The Championship.
    Incidentally......it’s the 6th ranked league in the world.
    Who by, FIFA? Interesting stuff.  
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Would love to have seen Lyle play alongside Yann. That would have been tasty!
    Or Chris Duffy!
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    JamesSeed said:
    For someone with such a big personality it’s easy to forget how unselfish he is as a player. He could easily up his own goal tally by shooting from wide positions, or even from staying more central, but he chooses to do the right thing for the team. 
    As for renaming the JS Stand the Lyle Taylor Stand, I think I’d prefer it if they printed his face on tickets sold to away fans. 👍
    Our first goal at Wembley being a perfect example of what you are saying.
  • He is highly skilled at winding up away fans. I loved his ridiculous goal celebration on Saturday.

    I
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    How many penalties has he now scored with the not-so-new run up? Including the Villa game and shoot outs, it must be about 7/8?
  • His 1st goal Saturday was sublime. 

    Lyle Taylor is the sort of guy you love if he plays for your team, but would hate if he played for the opposition. 

    I love him, but only cause he plays for us
  • I fail to understand how he never played at a higher level. His all round game and workrate are very rare for a forward. 

    Sadly I think we have no chance of keeping him.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    edited February 2020
    I fail to understand how he never played at a higher level. His all round game and workrate are very rare for a forward. 

    Sadly I think we have no chance of keeping him.
    He wasn't prolific in his younger years, struggled at places like Scunthorpe, Sheff Utd, Bournemouth, Patrick Thistle.. As has been mentioned on here, he doesn't really like football, so perhaps he's learning more as a goalscorer as he becomes more experienced.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,818
    one of these days he's gonna miss one of those pens.......and I think I can forsee who against !
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,033
    one of these days he's gonna miss one of those pens.......and I think I can forsee who against !
    I guess you're right one day he'll miss, but that's no reason to stop. He always uses the same style; every keeper in the division knows exactly what he does, yet to date none have found a way to stop him. Keep going Lyle.
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    I think the way to save them is for the keeper to dummy his dive, but that is very difficult and would still be no guarantee. Keep them up Lyle.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    If that spectacular angled 20 yard half volley that he tried at Wembley and just missed had gone in I reckon Lyle would be playing in the premier league this season. Small fractions....
  • one of these days he's gonna miss one of those pens.......and I think I can forsee who against !
    Mystic AFKA has already seen it in his tea leaves fffs and i have no reason to doubt Charlton Lifes soothsayer
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    one of these days he's gonna miss one of those pens.......and I think I can forsee who against !
    Don’t worry we will be 3-0 up by then with 5 mins left......what could possibly go wrong?
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Man City have missed their last 4 penalties and they've been taken in a "traditional" method, from high calibre players eg Aguero, Jesus, Gundogan. Any penalty taker who has scored 8 or so on the trot is likely to miss. But I have feeling that the moanies will decide they've forensically found the evidence as to why and how it was missed! 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    I fail to understand how he never played at a higher level. His all round game and workrate are very rare for a forward. 

    Sadly I think we have no chance of keeping him.
    He wasn't prolific in his younger years, struggled at places like Scunthorpe, Sheff Utd, Bournemouth, Patrick Thistle.. As has been mentioned on here, he doesn't really like football, so perhaps he's learning more as a goalscorer as he becomes more experienced.
    Even though I heard Lyle say that, I still think he enjoys playing matches but until his breakthrough at Wimbledon at 27, Taylor endured the frustrations of being a professional footballer by not always being selected at his various clubs. Plus having strong opinions would have voiced that to his various managers and coaches on his travels.

    Lyle Taylor loves the limelight and see pressure as a privilege. He wouldn't be the first footballer not to watch other matches or know who the next opponent was until the week before.

    Charlton and Lyle have dovetailed so well that it would be sad to see it ended after 2 years. 

    For me, Matt Southall doesn't say "my door is always open" and wait for Lyle and agent to come back, he realises he has a fantastic asset and uses any skill he possesses to be pro active and gets Taylor's signature on a new contract. 

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I fail to understand how he never played at a higher level. His all round game and workrate are very rare for a forward. 

    Sadly I think we have no chance of keeping him.
    He wasn't prolific in his younger years, struggled at places like Scunthorpe, Sheff Utd, Bournemouth, Patrick Thistle.. As has been mentioned on here, he doesn't really like football, so perhaps he's learning more as a goalscorer as he becomes more experienced.
    Even though I heard Lyle say that, I still think he enjoys playing matches but until his breakthrough at Wimbledon at 27, Taylor endured the frustrations of being a professional footballer by not always being selected at his various clubs. Plus having strong opinions would have voiced that to his various managers and coaches on his travels.

    Lyle Taylor loves the limelight and see pressure as a privilege. He wouldn't be the first footballer not to watch other matches or know who the next opponent was until the week before.

    Charlton and Lyle have dovetailed so well that it would be sad to see it ended after 2 years. 

    For me, Matt Southall doesn't say "my door is always open" and wait for Lyle and agent to come back, he realises he has a fantastic asset and uses any skill he possesses to be pro active and gets Taylor's signature on a new contract. 

    The truth is probably somewhere in his mid 20s he though something a long the lines of "if I don't make a real effort for the next 5 years I am going to have to get a proper job".

    We are half way through a 2 year window where he will get the only chance to never have to work again.  He isn't 23 and get a move in a year or 18 months if we don't match his ambition.  It's now or never for him and he and his advisors will know that as well. 
  • 995632
    995632 Posts: 319
    Saw in the media that Joelinton at Newcastle cost £43 million, and Steve Bruce has said that he is not a natural goalscorer. Lyle put in a total Centre Forward performance against Luton and I can easily see interest in him from Prem clubs. He said on the ***Counter Attack podcast that playing/scoring in the Premiership is the last thing to do on his career bucketlist, and no one would turn down the chance to play in the Prem. He says it doesn't matter about money or anything, the chance to play in the Prem would be impossible to turn down.

    He dies say at the end that he would be honoured to have another contract with us and says he feels 'at home'. Unfortunately, I think we only have until the end of the season to enjoy his skills and what he brings to the club. But I don't think any of us can begrudge him an opportunity like that! 

    ***Prem chat 21mins 30. Contract chat 27mins 25. Interesting conversation all in all... 
    https://youtu.be/yQLqLnaE6IE

  • When was that counter attack interview exactly out of interest?
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    1StevieG said:
    Trump last rally sounded more like it was at a farm than a town hall with all the mooing going on.
    Promoting this on the basis he got the wrong thread