Brentford v Charlton | Post-match Thread 7.7.2020

I had a lot of buffering on my feed in the first half so didn't feel able to allocate players marks. However it looks as if the average mark is going to be quite high for a defeat @lancashire lad . Quite rightly so on what I saw and it'll be interesting to see how this compares to other defeats this season or last come to that.

I thought the Bees goals were coming in the 90th and 94th minute, so getting the disappointment in early was a bonus. We look a better side when Williams is playing.  

So frustrating to come close to getting a point or even 3 and end up with nothing. However we invited the pressure onto ourselves in the second half. We needed an outlet for the pressure, but we don't have the squad depth at the moment, and it's difficult with the amount of games in a short space of time.

We will need plenty of signings in the summer, especially if we lose the out of contract players (Sarr, Matthews, Forster-Caskey, Hemed etc.)

Covered End said:

oohaahmortimer said:

PaddyP17 said:

We are clearly a team. We're at least as good a team as Brentford, who play and understand each other beautifully - they just happen to have much better players.

Sorry I'm lost 

I think we're as good as Liverpool :-)

They'd have won the league in January with Bonne, Hemed, Green as a front 3. 

SDAddick said:

Lapslie: 5 - Yikes. He's just not good enough for this division yet. And tonight it showed. His touch isn't good enough, and he doesn't really have a position, plus he lacks physicality. 

Perfectly put, Lapslie doesn't hold his position well. He's not quick or strong enough, has a poor touch, doesn't have an eye for a pass or shot. All he does add is fitness to run around the pitch chasing players.  Usually a second behind them playing the ball, but it's okay because he's not a great tackler either. 

I feel like he's confused as to the role he should be playing more often than not and that can't be blamed considering he seems to be played at a different position every week! 

We either need to nurture him into a position and focus on improving his ability in that position (not saying we aren't doing that in training btw) or allow him to move on so someone else can develop him. I am not sure his career will have many seasons above League 1, which is sad given his bright start a few seasons back. 

From his 48 appearances he has 3 goals and 3 assists. Which is more than I expected as for me he's a defensive player. 

G1 - Crawley Town - EFL Trophy (2-0)
G2 & A1 - Stevenage - EFL Trophy (8-0)
A2 - Shrewsbury - L1 (2-1)
A3 -Mansfield Town - FA Cup (5-0)
G3 - Luton - Championship (3-1)

I'd argue he has done his best when played as a RM and especially against Brentford in the home game at RB. I think he is too unpredictable at CM. 

I hope we can transform him into Matthews RB support as that game against Brentford he was decent in his time in the RB slot. 

This is not scapegoating Lapslie for the loss, that wasn't down to an error he made or a header he ducked etc, it's simply me showing disappointment for the lack of progression he has shown since the 16/17 season. 

Viewfinder said:

RedChaser said:

I had a lot of buffering on my feed in the first half so didn't feel able to allocate players marks. However it looks as if the average mark is going to be quite high for a defeat @lancashire lad . Quite rightly so on what I saw and it'll be interesting to see how this compares to other defeats this season or last come to that.

Someone raised a similar point about players' marks recently: Giving every player 10 after a win undermines the hard work that Lancashire Lad puts in. The marks are routinely wildly overstated - 7s and 8s were thrown around after yesterday's defeat to a far better team. What would you give Benrahma, the Brentford playmaker? 15 out of 10 doesn't work. 

He'd get a 9, a nuisance all night and a goal, but otherwise wasted plenty of shots when passes were on. 

Viewfinder said:

RedChaser said:

I had a lot of buffering on my feed in the first half so didn't feel able to allocate players marks. However it looks as if the average mark is going to be quite high for a defeat @lancashire lad . Quite rightly so on what I saw and it'll be interesting to see how this compares to other defeats this season or last come to that.

Someone raised a similar point about players' marks recently: Giving every player 10 after a win undermines the hard work that Lancashire Lad puts in. The marks are routinely wildly overstated - 7s and 8s were thrown around after yesterday's defeat to a far better team. What would you give Benrahma, the Brentford playmaker? 15 out of 10 doesn't work. 

Mate you marked Doughty 5 and Field 5.5? lol

I'd say your marks were understated.

Edit: and Forster-Caskey 5 :O

ForeverAddickted said:

ross1 said:

Macauley Bonne

@MBonne9

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5h

Great to get the goal, but disappointed falling short of the win. We really feel your support from home! We'll keep pushing!!

@K_AndrewsPhotos

We can talk about the defending for our second goal - Watching back and you have to question how Pinnock allows Bonne to almost ghost in like he does

Of course the second goal we concede is more costly but both equally bad when it comes to defending

If teams got everything right all of the time, we'd see far fewer goals. It's a great run by Bonne and an even better header from F.Caskey for Bonne to flick in.

It is odd that we have had no williams and doughty then we have both and then we had none again - if you offer no threat going forwards (ability to run at or beyond the defence), you will eventually concede 9 times out of 10. Same problem against Millwall until they came on albeit they scored once they did. I liked the team that started last night but not if the strategy is to change it and have nothing but defensive anti footballers to put on with half hour to go. Be better off having Green on or Aneke on earlier or having doughty and williams on at alternate times.