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Post-match Thread: Swindon v Charlton | Sat 19 Dec 2020
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Why not sell all of our attacking players in January and buy defenders?3
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We should be rejoicing tonight after gaining another 3 points but regrettably we have to recover from another kick in the nether regions in the final minutes.
There is no excuse for going defensive for the last 25 minutes when leading by only 1 goal; particularly with our main defenders absent through injuries. This current defense cannot protect a 1 goal lead for that length of time. This tactic must go if have any chance of challenging for promotion this season.
I support Bowyer because he has already achieved great things for us against all the odds and he genuinely loves the club as we do. But, he must become more positive and go for the win instead of protecting a lead which all too often has ended in disaster. A now familiar tactic sadly biting us far too often.
Absolutely gutted today after dropping 2 points to a team so obviously struggling in the bottom end of the table.10 -
To my eyes, Gilbey was poor before his injury. This is just more of the same. And Bogle definitely isn’t a footballer. Very poor.Karim_myBagheri said:i know he had a game or two earlier on in the season where some said he did well which unfortunately for him i didn't see but what I have seen of Gilbey i'm not convinced that he's actually a footballer.4 -
One thing Thomas could do is demand attacking play or Bowyer will be sacked. Save the bloke from himself.2
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That's the problem. I said this against Shrewsbury as well - his lack of acknowledging the issue makes me worry that nothing is going to change.charltonbob said:Even if Bowyer held his hands up & said OK it was my fault I made the wrong subs & wrong tactics would you bet against him doing exactly the same thing in our next game ?0 -
I remember comments from redhenry I believe saying we have spent loads of money on Gilbey per week. I don't really see what he brings. Thought Watson had a great game though, played really well3
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Didnt Gilbey and Washington get signed before the Salary Cap was introduced?jacob_CAFC said:I remember comments from redhenry I believe saying we have spent loads of money on Gilbey per week. I don't really see what he brings. Thought Watson had a great game though, played really well0 -
yes, because thats what happens when you admit your mistakes, you learn from them. Sadly Bowyer hasn't admitted to himself that he's wrong yet.charltonbob said:Even if Bowyer held his hands up & said OK it was my fault I made the wrong subs & wrong tactics would you bet against him doing exactly the same thing in our next game ?0 -
I mentioned before the game that him bigging up the first half against Wimbledon in his press conference was worrying.3
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Not just the subs though is it. Why are we starting games without our best players. Why do we normally wait until the hour to bring on Aneke (HT today) ? Start him tell him he's got an hour & then see how he feels, motivate him to show the form that he shows coming off the bench. It's ridiculous that our only striker worthy of the name plays only 30 minutes of most games. Why isn't our most creative player JW on the pitch at least for some of each game ?Hartleypete said:Bowyer and Boris can both do one.
Terrible subs cost us again, so defensive when we should have been taking the game to them.
Just so disappointing we cant defend when teams throw everything at us.0 -
We didn't have a game on Tuesday to tire the two stars of our best half an hour of the season!0
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Those that do not entertain healthy debate about Bowyers's failings are blinded by his loyalty that is difficult to evaluate. The truth is the guy is limited and his limitations are costing us. Much is right about the club but where we are moving forward off the pitch it feels like has gone backwards or at best stoodstill. Something feels out of kilter and doesn't add up. Will TS accept us not getting promoted? I doubt it. I have seen every game this season and there are plenty of teams better than us and let's face it Swindon moved the ball far better than us. For large periods of today's game and despite the negative tactics we where unable to ever really look secure in defending the lead and far from ever being in control of the game.5
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Chances? In the second half? What the actual fuck is he onChunes said:1 -
Or Gilby when he got the ball on the left and had two Charlton men in aches of space to pass to, and instead passed the ball off the pitch.ForeverAddickted said:1 -
Posting without reading, or watching, but this tells its own story....5mins after going 2-1 up ffs!!!!
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Those aren't really chances are they? They were instances where we could have fashioned chances. Tenuous at best4
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Gilbey has been shit since he signed.EveshamAddick said:
To my eyes, Gilbey was poor before his injury. This is just more of the same. And Bogle definitely isn’t a footballer. Very poor.Karim_myBagheri said:i know he had a game or two earlier on in the season where some said he did well which unfortunately for him i didn't see but what I have seen of Gilbey i'm not convinced that he's actually a footballer.5 -
He also had that similar shot to Bogle in the first half that sailed over... Its why the players have to take some of the blame todayFishCostaFortune said:
Or Gilby when he got the ball on the left and had two Charlton men in aches of space to pass to, and instead passed the ball off the pitch.ForeverAddickted said:
Even when there are six defenders on, dont keep putting your foot through it every time but maybe stop and think for a second - There are so many better ways to take the pressure off yourselves, even when you dont have the creative players on the pitch... Its why I didnt feel massively concerned just prior to the goal because for the most part we were getting the ball and keeping it, it was then the pass further up the pitch that we over-played instead of potentially going to the corner flag
Shrewsbury when we drew 1-1 was no different, doesnt matter if Williams was on the pitch or not, if Gunter didnt panic and swipe at the ball then they dont get a penalty!!
Decision Making HAS to improve
Bowyer can tell them to do this and that but its no difference to the COVID thread, you can give as many instructions as you want but its basic human instinct to do what we each think is the right thing2 -
Where has the exciting football we played under Bows in the promotion season? We went forwards for fun and always looked like we might score. Last season has really eroded his tactical confidence to the point I’m worrying he might not be here past February if we keep this up2
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No pace in the current team... Our problem in the promotion season was the fact we relied too heavily on Grant and Taylor because they were the only two with any paceChamps85 said:Where has the exciting football we played under Bows in the promotion season? We went forwards for fun and always looked like we might score. Last season has really eroded his tactical confidence to the point I’m worrying he might not be here past February if we keep this up
Even now they're probably quicker than anyone we've got apart from Smyth and Doughty
So we're having to play a slightly less impressive way which ironically is resulting in more goals all over the pitch0 -
The second half last week was pretty exciting...Champs85 said:Where has the exciting football we played under Bows in the promotion season? We went forwards for fun and always looked like we might score. Last season has really eroded his tactical confidence to the point I’m worrying he might not be here past February if we keep this up0 -
LB always counts these as chances. It's why we can watch a 0-0 turgid, awful half where we create nothing and he will say we should've had 2 or 3 goals.Leuth said:Those aren't really chances are they? They were instances where we could have fashioned chances. Tenuous at best6 -
Bit unfair. In the opening 2 games of the season he played well. Remember his great run and pass to doughty for the first goal at crewe?redbuttle said:
Gilbey has been shit since he signed.EveshamAddick said:
To my eyes, Gilbey was poor before his injury. This is just more of the same. And Bogle definitely isn’t a footballer. Very poor.Karim_myBagheri said:i know he had a game or two earlier on in the season where some said he did well which unfortunately for him i didn't see but what I have seen of Gilbey i'm not convinced that he's actually a footballer.
But since he's come back from injury I totally agree.1 -
If that's your thoughts on it then fair enough. If we have a pot shot at the goal from 35 yards, and it goes wide, do you count that as a chance?Leuth said:Those aren't really chances are they? They were instances where we could have fashioned chances. Tenuous at best3 -
Disappointing result but we could have got away with the 3 points. Don't get this ridiculous critism of Lee. He is a good manager and he knows his players strengths and weaknesses and critically their fitness. With only a mainly bargain basement squad to select from, each game is problematic.
There are some good players that are injured and with a few replacements in January we might be able to stay in the top 6. Far too many hit and miss players available for today’s game which was grim.
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Does he even suit playing in a diamond, especially when we played those two games in a 4-3-3 formationFortune 82nd Minute said:
Bit unfair. In the opening 2 games of the season he played well. Remember his great run and pass to doughty for the first goal at crewe?redbuttle said:
Gilbey has been shit since he signed.EveshamAddick said:
To my eyes, Gilbey was poor before his injury. This is just more of the same. And Bogle definitely isn’t a footballer. Very poor.Karim_myBagheri said:i know he had a game or two earlier on in the season where some said he did well which unfortunately for him i didn't see but what I have seen of Gilbey i'm not convinced that he's actually a footballer.
But since he's come back from injury I totally agree.
Is he better passing the ball to someone with pace
e.g. that Doughty ball when someone can get on the end of it even if it is slightly over hit, unlike Aneke today?1
