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Nigel Adkins - confirmed as permanent Tranmere manager (p52)

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited March 2021
    colthe3rd said:


    At least the anoraks will keep us dry from the tears. 
    Yeah his pinned tweet says enough, doubt he could spell it let alone find it on a map. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    captainbob said:


    If the name 'Nigel' is deemed too offensive to sing, may I suggest a respectful alternative...

    '...now we've Mister Adkins, the Reds are going up.'
    I like that  ....... we call him Mister Adkins, and we don't have to call him Nigel.

    Win-win. :smile:


  • MickeyBennett
    MickeyBennett Posts: 676
    Really hope the new gaffer drops one of these with Minto and Curbs on Valley Pass:


  • dicktracey
    dicktracey Posts: 319
    Welcome Mr Adkins.  He will draw better quality players in our club.  Well done TS and your team.  
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    Dave Rudd said:
    You can all relax.

    The name is derived from the church Latin Nigellus. This Latin word would at first sight seem to derive from the classical Latin nigellus (meaning dark or somewhat black), which is derived from niger, meaning "black". However, this is now considered an example of an incorrect etymology created by French-speaking clerics, who knew Latin as well, to translate the Norman first name Neel in the Latin written documents. The Latin word nigellus gave birth to Old French neel (modern nielle), meaning “niello, black enamel” and it explains the confusion, because the clerics believed it was the same etymology as the first name Neel, spelled the same way.[4]

    The Old Norman first name Neel (modern surname Néel) derives from the Norse Njáll. The Norse Njáll, in turn, is derived from the Gaelic Niall.[5][6]


    Welcome, Neil Adkins.

     

    Your two-and-a-half year contract tells me that (as predicted in this column) Sandgaard is attempting to realise his EuroCharlton dream in two parts.  Neil's brief is to get us out of League 1 and establish us as a Championship side within those 2+ years.

    At that point, the contract is renewed and the push for the Premier League takes place, or a new (betterer) man is appointed.


    I'm still going to call him Howard.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,220
    edited March 2021
    SE7toSG3 said:
    From my Southampton mate who is happy for me to share


    I had no idea Adkins takes the Johnstone Paint Trophy seriously. Now I’m worried 😉
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    captainbob said:
    Apologies if this has already been covered...

    The 'Allez Allez Allez' song need not be ditched. Au contraire, we can now sing it correctly.

    '...now we've got Lee Bowyer' was poor grammar as 'got' is superfluous. 'We have' is sufficient. 

    However, as 'Nigel Adkins' has an extra syllable, '...we have Nigel Adkins' doesn't scan. Therefore, we contract 'we have' to 'we've', resulting in '...now we've Nigel Adkins'... the Reds are going up...Allez, Allez, Allez...'

    If the name 'Nigel' is deemed too offensive to sing, may I suggest a respectful alternative...

    '...now we've Mister Adkins, the Reds are going up.'
    Howard works better.
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,856
    I have to be honest. I don’t trust such outward positivity in an obviously broken world. The man is hiding something and it will get old very quickly. I’m not ready to buy what Adkins is selling. #TeamJJ
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    LoOkOuT said:
    I have to be honest. I don’t trust such outward positivity in an obviously broken world. The man is hiding something and it will get old very quickly. I’m not ready to buy what Adkins is selling. #TeamJJ
    Mate cheer up 😁
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  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    Dave2l said:
    KiwiValley said:
    NM18 said:
    Completely UNDERWHELMED. Nice guys aren't winners.
    "Nice guys aren't winners" said every arsehole ever.

    "Nice guys aren't winners"

    Cringe material.

    A winner is someone that has the ability to openly, honestly and confidently express themself. Ability to wear your heart on your sleeve.

    Liars, actors, parasites. They are lifes true losers. 
    Claudio Raneri won a premier league and he is quite easily one of the nicest guys in football.

    I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 635
    The best part about Nigel for me was the fact he wants players smiling, I think that will reflect on the pitch, players play better when they are enjoying themselves.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Wasn't that one of Karel Freye's famous comments - to smile more?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    king addick said:
    Dave2l said:
    KiwiValley said:
    NM18 said:
    Completely UNDERWHELMED. Nice guys aren't winners.
    "Nice guys aren't winners" said every arsehole ever.

    "Nice guys aren't winners"

    Cringe material.

    A winner is someone that has the ability to openly, honestly and confidently express themself. Ability to wear your heart on your sleeve.

    Liars, actors, parasites. They are lifes true losers. 
    Claudio Raneri won a premier league and he is quite easily one of the nicest guys in football.

    I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.

    Errr..... Chris Powell THE nicest man in football.
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 635
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Wasn't that one of Karel Freye's famous comments - to smile more?
    Crums my cover has been blown
  • SoleBayAddick
    SoleBayAddick Posts: 155
    sm said:
    captainbob said:
    Apologies if this has already been covered...

    The 'Allez Allez Allez' song need not be ditched. Au contraire, we can now sing it correctly.

    '...now we've got Lee Bowyer' was poor grammar as 'got' is superfluous. 'We have' is sufficient. 

    However, as 'Nigel Adkins' has an extra syllable, '...we have Nigel Adkins' doesn't scan. Therefore, we contract 'we have' to 'we've', resulting in '...now we've Nigel Adkins'... the Reds are going up...Allez, Allez, Allez...'

    If the name 'Nigel' is deemed too offensive to sing, may I suggest a respectful alternative...

    '...now we've Mister Adkins, the Reds are going up.'
    Howard works better.
    For those of us who remember the war, I prefer Tommy Atkins.
  • 1968CAFC
    1968CAFC Posts: 577
    Good Luck Nigel I am certain that with TS behind you and Johnnie Jackson you will rise to greater things in this wonderful clubs history 👍👍👍
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Nigel Adkins said in the interview that he doesn't really know anybody here.
    He mentioned a few names, but not very much.
    It is going to be quite a challenge, which he seems to approach with intellect, commitment and enthusiasm, but I wonder if a moment will come when he will feel an emotional attachment, get the vibe as it were, our vibe.
    I suppose it's now about everybody making new memories together.
    I hope Nigel doesn't feel too lonely too long.
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  • NM18
    NM18 Posts: 71
    edited March 2021

    Dave2l said:
    KiwiValley said:
    NM18 said:
    Completely UNDERWHELMED. Nice guys aren't winners.
    "Nice guys aren't winners" said every arsehole ever.

    "Nice guys aren't winners"

    Cringe material.

    A winner is someone that has the ability to openly, honestly and confidently express themself. Ability to wear your heart on your sleeve.

    Liars, actors, parasites. They are lifes true losers. 
    Claudio Raneri won a premier league and he is quite easily one of the nicest guys in football.

    I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.


    Rainieri 'won'  Premier League with 100% Pearson team and even his assistant manager. Ranieri just a caretaker boss and then when he got to put his mark on the team it went wrong
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Some people are so broken from previous regimes, that unless Johnny Jackson rode in on horseback, with Chris Powell and Curbs floating above him, they would be pissed off. Then they'd probably still slate lack of ambition, because Pep didn't hold up scarfy, while the club arranged for Pamela Anderson to deliver your season ticket, made of solid gold.

    Must be exhausting to want to be pissed off all the time. 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    NM18 said:
    king addick said: Rainieri 'won'  Premier League with 100% Pearson team and even his assistant manager. Ranieri just a caretaker boss and then when he got to put his mark on the team it went wrong.
    Dave2l said:
    KiwiValley said:
    NM18 said:
    Completely UNDERWHELMED. Nice guys aren't winners.
    "Nice guys aren't winners" said every arsehole ever.

    "Nice guys aren't winners"

    Cringe material.

    A winner is someone that has the ability to openly, honestly and confidently express themself. Ability to wear your heart on your sleeve.

    Liars, actors, parasites. They are lifes true losers. 
    Claudio Raneri won a premier league and he is quite easily one of the nicest guys in football.

    I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.


    But Pearson didnt win it did he? Ranieri took them to the next level based on how you view things.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    NM18 said:

    Dave2l said:
    KiwiValley said:
    NM18 said:
    Completely UNDERWHELMED. Nice guys aren't winners.
    "Nice guys aren't winners" said every arsehole ever.

    "Nice guys aren't winners"

    Cringe material.

    A winner is someone that has the ability to openly, honestly and confidently express themself. Ability to wear your heart on your sleeve.

    Liars, actors, parasites. They are lifes true losers. 
    Claudio Raneri won a premier league and he is quite easily one of the nicest guys in football.

    I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.


    Rainieri 'won'  Premier League with 100% Pearson team and even his assistant manager. Ranieri just a caretaker boss and then when he got to put his mark on the team it went wrong
    Fucking hell. One of the worst football takes I've ever read 😂
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,810
    Croydon said:
    Ormiston_Addick said:
    LargeAddick said:
    Ormiston_Addick said:
    Sorry, but this is absolute bollocks.

    Adkins did brilliantly for Southampton TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO - he has not worked for two years and failed at his last three clubs.

    This is just so gutting, I am sure he is a lovely bloke and all that but come on people if Sunderland appointed him after sacking Parky we’d have thought them mad.

    Obviously he knows Ged Roddy from working together at Reading and that’s why he got the job, and that is just not good enough I am afraid.

    Feels like a real kick in the teeth and confirms what others have said about tension between Bowyer and Roddy with the former fearing a replacement was being lined up.

    I would love to be wrong but this looks like an awful appointment, please show me a manager that has failed at his last three clubs and then suddenly finds success after two years on his arse. You won’t be able to.

    Really quite angry about this, feels like a complete piss take to be honest.
    If they sack Adkins it will be the most ludicrous sacking in Premier League history, utterly bonkers.

    Ormiston_Addick
    Nice one mate, great to see you have plenty of time on your hands.

    As I said, Adkins did a BRILLIANT job at Southampton, I saw them play a lot and they were fantastic and he was very badly treated there - although it turned out to be the right decision.

    However, since then he has failed at three clubs, bombed out after a season and a half at Reading, Sheffield United and Hull with a league winning percentage of 36%, 40% and 33% respectively - compared to 55% At Southampton.

    I am sure his eloquence and enthusiasm are very attractive but there is a lot of accumulated football knowledge on this forum and I think only one poster out of hundreds even mentioned Adkins name when Bowyers replacement was discussed.

    Adkins left Hull nearly two years ago and in that time there must have been 40-50 sackings from the 90 plus clubs from the Premier League to League Two and yet not one of those clubs looked about and thought that Nigel Adkins was the man for the job - tells you something if you’re bright enough to see it.

    I would love to be proved wrong and I am sure Nigel is a top bloke and interviews very well indeed - and he did brilliantly at Scunthorpe and Saints but that was a long, long time ago.

    Football moves on and nobody in football gives a shit about Chris Powell winning League One with us back in 2011/12 - incidentally that was the last time Adkins won a promotion too - all they remember now is him failing at Huddersfield and Southend and the same goes for Adkins which is why he has been out of work for two years.

    I’d love to get on the happy bus but this appointment feels like a bad move to me.
    HE DIDN'T FAIL AT HULL, FOR FUCK'S SAKE
    Adkins had a win rate at Hull of 33%, Won 26 Drew 21 Lost 31.

    OK, even if you give him credit for keeping them up and accept the club was in big trouble that’s a very average record over nearly two seasons.

    If we are appointing him on the back of keeping Hull in the Championship then that’s not inspiring me very much.

    Like I said, Nigel has been out the game for two seasons now and his record since leaving Saints is the reason why.

    I want him to succeed but this appointment is very much gambling he can bring back his magic of 2010-12 - I don’t much like the odds.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    SoleBayAddick said:
    sm said:
    captainbob said:
    Apologies if this has already been covered...

    The 'Allez Allez Allez' song need not be ditched. Au contraire, we can now sing it correctly.

    '...now we've got Lee Bowyer' was poor grammar as 'got' is superfluous. 'We have' is sufficient. 

    However, as 'Nigel Adkins' has an extra syllable, '...we have Nigel Adkins' doesn't scan. Therefore, we contract 'we have' to 'we've', resulting in '...now we've Nigel Adkins'... the Reds are going up...Allez, Allez, Allez...'

    If the name 'Nigel' is deemed too offensive to sing, may I suggest a respectful alternative...

    '...now we've Mister Adkins, the Reds are going up.'
    Howard works better.
    For those of us who remember the war, our average age was 19

  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,261
    MickeyBennett said:
    Really hope the new gaffer drops one of these with Minto and Curbs on Valley Pass:


    Mr Adkins' favourite poem, the guy in the glass, his version slightly different to the original-
    https://www.theguyintheglass.com/gig.htm

    See also
    https://www.theguyintheglass.com/index.htm
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    NM18 said:

    Dave2l said:
    KiwiValley said:
    NM18 said:
    Completely UNDERWHELMED. Nice guys aren't winners.
    "Nice guys aren't winners" said every arsehole ever.

    "Nice guys aren't winners"

    Cringe material.

    A winner is someone that has the ability to openly, honestly and confidently express themself. Ability to wear your heart on your sleeve.

    Liars, actors, parasites. They are lifes true losers. 
    Claudio Raneri won a premier league and he is quite easily one of the nicest guys in football.

    I know Adkins has won things but cant hurt to have another example.


    Rainieri 'won'  Premier League with 100% Pearson team and even his assistant manager. Ranieri just a caretaker boss and then when he got to put his mark on the team it went wrong

    Well perhaps this "nice guy" is about to get promoted with a 100% Bowyer team and even his assistant manager.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,255
    eastterrace6168 said:
    charltonbob said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    colthe3rd said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    stoneroses19 said:
    Ormiston_Addick said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Ormiston_Addick said:
    Sorry, but this is absolute bollocks.

    Adkins did brilliantly for Southampton TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO - he has not worked for two years and failed at his last three clubs.

    This is just so gutting, I am sure he is a lovely bloke and all that but come on people if Sunderland appointed him after sacking Parky we’d have thought them mad.

    Obviously he knows Ged Roddy from working together at Reading and that’s why he got the job, and that is just not good enough I am afraid.

    Feels like a real kick in the teeth and confirms what others have said about tension between Bowyer and Roddy with the former fearing a replacement was being lined up.

    I would love to be wrong but this looks like an awful appointment, please show me a manager that has failed at his last three clubs and then suddenly finds success after two years on his arse. You won’t be able to.

    Really quite angry about this, feels like a complete piss take to be honest.
    Is that the Roddy who worked and Reading in 2018 and the Adkins that left in 2014?  Or a different pair? 
    Yep - fair enough - that’s my mistake.

    But sorry, there has to be a link somewhere because someone two years out of the game and three failures in a row behind them doesn’t just get appointed 48 hours after the last manager walks.

    This didn’t just happen this week.
    The way him and Olly kept saying this has been a whirlwind week and happened quickly, makes it sound like not as pre-planned as you think. 
    Yeah it sounded like he was on Sandgaard's list but maybe only contacted this week. 
    I'm not so sure. Olly says about it being a whirlwind week, Adkins agrees it's been a whirlwind but doesn't actually say when he spoke to Sandgaard. I still suspect initial contact was made earlier than this week. Probably only finalised once Bow resigned.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Bows had been saying to TS for a few weeks that he was on the verge of resigning, as no matter what he tried he couldn’t get the performances he expected - I imagine TS would have said, don’t worry, it takes time to get where we want - but having picked up on Bows ‘vibe’ and also his Valley Pass post match interviews, TS decided he needed to have a back up if Bows did resign
    It's what any decent owner would do, even in the good times do your research as you never know what's around the corner. Not the exciting appointment that some were looking for but good solid experience at this level with three promotions plus managing in the top two divisions. I think he's a great appointment & possibly the best we could have hoped for. Far too early for JJ imo but great to have him around the players who all seem to love him. Would still like a defensive coach to come in. Step by step TS is building  :D  
    Could that be Steve Brown
    Certainly talks a lot of sense & as an ex Premier defender we could do worse. Certainly something has to happen.
  • MickeyBennett
    MickeyBennett Posts: 676
    Get with the program guys. Ged Roddy is a red herring. The real puppetmaster is Chris Gunter, him and Adkins go WAY back.

    Why do you think Chris Gunter has been playing the way he plays? Because he is a bad footballer? Because he is "past his best"? Get real, the guy has 99 caps for WALES ffs.

    This was all part of the plan. Agent Gunter you can now stand down. Mission accomplished.

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