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ForeverAddickted said:Cafc43v3r said:ForeverAddickted said:Is FootballLeagueWorld even a reliable source?
https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/stockley-transfer-pne-portsmouth-charlton-20752048
Which in turn credits the is one
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/portsmouth-in-the-transfer-mix-for-charlton-loan-hit-jayden-stockley/
The assumptions in the FootballLeagueWorld one and the Lancs live one are just that. It's Saturday's news rehashed.1 -
If Stockley doesn’t join us it doesn’t mean we’ve been slow, lax or anything else. What it means is that the player has got a better deal or has decided that the move suits him better. We will have a budget on what we are prepared to go to for the player and if Portsmouth or anyone else are willing to pay PNE or the player more then good for them. That’s how it works.15
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ShootersHillGuru said:If Stockley doesn’t join us it doesn’t mean we’ve been slow, lax or anything else. What it means is that the player has got a better deal or has decided that the move suits him better. We will have a budget on what we are prepared to go to for the player and if Portsmouth or anyone else are willing to pay PNE or the player more then good for them. That’s how it works.
You are exactly right. Its his job at the end of the day and PNE are entitled to get the best fee they can. As I would expect us to.2 -
ForeverAddickted said:Cafc43v3r said:ForeverAddickted said:Is FootballLeagueWorld even a reliable source?
https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/stockley-transfer-pne-portsmouth-charlton-20752048
Which in turn credits the is one
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/portsmouth-in-the-transfer-mix-for-charlton-loan-hit-jayden-stockley/
The assumptions in the FootballLeagueWorld one and the Lancs live one are just that. It's Saturday's news rehashed.If the player has made his mind up that will be the end of it, unless money can change it.0 -
Maccn05 said:Todds_right_hook said:Maccn05 said:Todds_right_hook said:Maccn05 said:If we've let one of the best most in demand strikers in L1 go one holiday with only a verbal agreement and then lose him then we deserve exactly what we get... how amateur!
The rumour shared was... Charlton not happy with his agent or PNE .... saying they have a gentleman’s agreement fee wages agent fee before player went of on family holiday and there understanding is that’s still in place for the player to sign on his return
In no business do you let your biggest deal or target target agree the deal but go away without doing the deal.
It's typical of us get caught sleeping or being too conservative and this looks to be another example of this.
as i said originally, how do we know that Stockley hasn't told Charlton he needs and wants time to think things through.
I’m a Sales Director and I or a member of my team have done a deal I get it agreed in writing so it can’t be renaged on without a penalty or renegotiated without mutual agreement.
All I’m saying if we’ve done that then it’s poor negotiating on our part. The deal could have been completed before he was on holiday (maybe it actually has and this is all rumours) like other deals have been in L1, the window doesn’t have to be open to sign players.
If the above has happened we’ve let a rival come in a potentially steal him or cost us more … that’s bad business! Simple!
Its also worth saying he’s been here for months so we’ve had plenty of time to make him an offer and for him to decide does he want to come.
The original rumour stated he had made a verbal agreement so if we don’t sign him it’s suggests he’s broken that agreement.
If we have lost, what we assume is our number one target then it doesn’t bode well for our budget or expertise in the market.
Our position is "we'd like you to sign for us please." If he decides to wait or check other options first then we have no grounds to argue with it. The only thing we can do is to withdraw the offer but that leaves us without the signing and leaves him STILL under contract and free to talk to anyone be pleases.
We could have had a contract written up and waiting for a signature since he first came on loan for all the good it would do. He'll sign or not based purely on his own thoughts, not due to bad business on our part at all.0 -
ForeverAddickted said:Is FootballLeagueWorld even a reliable source?
Just some blog that regurgitates rumours and puts out click bait headlines.
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Redrobo said:ForeverAddickted said:Cafc43v3r said:ForeverAddickted said:Is FootballLeagueWorld even a reliable source?
https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/stockley-transfer-pne-portsmouth-charlton-20752048
Which in turn credits the is one
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/portsmouth-in-the-transfer-mix-for-charlton-loan-hit-jayden-stockley/
The assumptions in the FootballLeagueWorld one and the Lancs live one are just that. It's Saturday's news rehashed.If the player has mind up that will be the end of it, unless money can change it.
Its all just interest at the moment, being turned into something that isnt by a desperate click bait website.0 -
RedRobin said:https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/portsmouth-take-step-forward-in-transfer-race-with-charlton-and-ipswich/
Pompey been given permission to speak to Stockley, according to this article.
If this is the case then I’m lost for words! A player on loan with us last season, says he wants to sign and then we lose out to a promotion rival, f*****g ridiculous.Lose out ..... if we were ever interested ????No one knows who our targets are yes Stockley was shown properties in Bexley when the season ended .. perhaps we went in another direction ????0 -
Preston have given Stockley permission too talk 2 Portsmouth.0
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RonnieMoore said:RedRobin said:https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/portsmouth-take-step-forward-in-transfer-race-with-charlton-and-ipswich/
Pompey been given permission to speak to Stockley, according to this article.
If this is the case then I’m lost for words! A player on loan with us last season, says he wants to sign and then we lose out to a promotion rival, f*****g ridiculous.Lose out ..... if we were ever interested ????No one knows who our targets are yes Stockley was shown properties in Bexley when the season ended .. perhaps we went in another direction ????4 - Sponsored links:
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Come the revolution (9th June) all will be revealed..... allegedly1
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Cafc43v3r said:RonnieMoore said:RedRobin said:https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/portsmouth-take-step-forward-in-transfer-race-with-charlton-and-ipswich/
Pompey been given permission to speak to Stockley, according to this article.
If this is the case then I’m lost for words! A player on loan with us last season, says he wants to sign and then we lose out to a promotion rival, f*****g ridiculous.Lose out ..... if we were ever interested ????No one knows who our targets are yes Stockley was shown properties in Bexley when the season ended .. perhaps we went in another direction ????
I don't know what to believe any more!!2 -
eastterrace6168 said:Come the revolution (9th June) all will be revealed..... allegedly0
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Valley27000 said:Preston have given Stockley permission too talk 2 Portsmouth.0
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I've always been a little unsure that Stockley fits in with the way Adkins wants to play if he's able to rebuild the squad. Doesn't strike me as an Adkins type signing.
Just my opinion from previous Adkins sides & the way he has said he wants to play. Personally I think Stockley would be a cracking signing.2 -
thenewbie said:Cafc43v3r said:RonnieMoore said:RedRobin said:https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/portsmouth-take-step-forward-in-transfer-race-with-charlton-and-ipswich/
Pompey been given permission to speak to Stockley, according to this article.
If this is the case then I’m lost for words! A player on loan with us last season, says he wants to sign and then we lose out to a promotion rival, f*****g ridiculous.Lose out ..... if we were ever interested ????No one knows who our targets are yes Stockley was shown properties in Bexley when the season ended .. perhaps we went in another direction ????
I don't know what to believe any more!!3 -
thenewbie said:Cafc43v3r said:RonnieMoore said:RedRobin said:https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/portsmouth-take-step-forward-in-transfer-race-with-charlton-and-ipswich/
Pompey been given permission to speak to Stockley, according to this article.
If this is the case then I’m lost for words! A player on loan with us last season, says he wants to sign and then we lose out to a promotion rival, f*****g ridiculous.Lose out ..... if we were ever interested ????No one knows who our targets are yes Stockley was shown properties in Bexley when the season ended .. perhaps we went in another direction ????
I don't know what to believe any more!!0 -
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Rumour alert.
I heard a Rumour that this thread has turned to shite.
Turns out it's not a Rumour it's true.10 -
Alot of teams are getting there business done early and once again we seem to be behind everyone!! I just don't get the silence coming from the club surly contract negotiations with the out of contract players has happened and some must want to stay. I can see this being one long hard season. If thomas thinks he can do this on the cheap he's going to have one big shock coming to him !!!8
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FAVADDICK said:Alot of teams are getting there business done early and once again we seem to be behind everyone!! I just don't get the silence coming from the club surly contract negotiations with the out of contract players has happened and some must want to stay. I can see this being one long hard season. If thomas thinks he can do this on the cheap he's going to have one big shock coming to him !!!
A lot can happen in a short period of time and I would far rather the club announce a new signing and pleasantly surprise us as opposed to us building our hopes up on speculation that never materialises.
In TS we trust4 -
124 pages of nonsense in four weeks...
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FAVADDICK said:Alot of teams are getting there business done early and once again we seem to be behind everyone!! I just don't get the silence coming from the club surly contract negotiations with the out of contract players has happened and some must want to stay. I can see this being one long hard season. If thomas thinks he can do this on the cheap he's going to have one big shock coming to him !!!
So many knee jerk reactions and assumptions. We're "behind everyone", Thomas is doing it on the "cheap"
I get the silence completely and totally agree with it. When a deal is done, announce it. Till then, keep schtum.
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blackpool72 said:Rumour alert.
I heard a Rumour that this thread has turned to shite.
Turns out it's not a Rumour it's true.
Brown or red?0 -
I'm not too fazed at the moment at the lack of transfer activity but would like to see the majority of players in before pre season starts if possible.
I am a bit surprised at the radio silence on some other issues such as the new shirt and the sponsorship of it, I mean Mumford said a deal was imminent about a month ago. He needs to learn that he can't bandy such words around willy nilly.
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blackpool72 said:Rumour alert.
I heard a Rumour that this thread has turned to shite.
Turns out it's not a Rumour it's true.0 -
I don't get why people are getting worried and saying we're behind in the transfer game! We have no idea what is/has been going on behind the scenes. We have a new owner, new manager and a new set up!
It could well be that this new Senior Management Team want to do things quietly and keep their business under the radar?
The transfer window is still closed for another 2 days, and even then they may still wait to announce anything until other business is done.
But for now just sit back and see what transpires, no point getting worried, just a waste of emotion.15 -
eastterrace6168 said:thenewbie said:Cafc43v3r said:RonnieMoore said:RedRobin said:https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/portsmouth-take-step-forward-in-transfer-race-with-charlton-and-ipswich/
Pompey been given permission to speak to Stockley, according to this article.
If this is the case then I’m lost for words! A player on loan with us last season, says he wants to sign and then we lose out to a promotion rival, f*****g ridiculous.Lose out ..... if we were ever interested ????No one knows who our targets are yes Stockley was shown properties in Bexley when the season ended .. perhaps we went in another direction ????
I don't know what to believe any more!!2 -
As long as we get most of our business done in time for pre season I'll be happy.
Leave it too late and you end up with the Hemed situation where players are playing catch up and never really do.2 -
The Charlton Life rumours thread seven stages of grief:
1. Decent player rumoured to be a target (eg. Stockley) creates universal enthusiasm and hope.
2. No confirmed signing causes anxiety and doubt.
3. Links with other interested clubs causes guilt and insecurity.
4. No further news creates panic
5. Player signing elsewhere leads to outrage and anger
6. Abusive insults and denigration of target as useless and not good enough anyway etc means denial
7 No more signings announced immediately triggers dejection, depression and despair.
Repeat until start of new season or until blind drunk or bonkers.
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