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Euro 2020 Thread
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I quite enjoyed seeing some new pundits for the Scotland game and thought that Eilidh Barbour and Shelley Kerr (the lady with the big hair) were very good and Darren Fletcher talks a lot of sense. I didn't recognise the other bloke.
Enjoyed the first half Slovakian performance against the Poles. Apart from their speed on the transition and general derring-do, I like the way they have a man on the other flank to pick up overhit crosses (if only Charlton could have done that occasionally last season).
We'll have to see how they respond to that early second half equaliser.
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He was very slow getting down, for sure.ForeverAddickted said:Jesus the Striker could have had a cup of tea between shooting and the ball crossing the net then
Slovak Goalkeeper has had a mareI think that was one of those than was infuriatingly close to being in reach though - and it was moving away from him, so he probably thought he had it.Third worst goalkeeper ricket of the day, for me. 😂1 -
Emma Hayes's analysis on co-commentary has been really good. Horrible accent, mind!0
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Great finish...0
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Couldn’t disagree more. Of all the token women commentators and pundits we are currently seeing she is truly awful....and annoying.North Lower Neil said:Emma Hayes's analysis on co-commentary has been really good. Horrible accent, mind!5 -
Fuck me...can she not just shut up?0
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Not clear what's wrong having female pundits? Plenty of bad Male ones...Red_in_SE8 said:
Couldn’t disagree more. Of all the token women commentators and pundits we are currently seeing she is truly awful....and annoying.North Lower Neil said:Emma Hayes's analysis on co-commentary has been really good. Horrible accent, mind!4 -
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Eilidh Barbour is on TV all the time- she does a good job. I thought Shelley Kerr spoke a lot of sense.Blucher said:I quite enjoyed seeing some new pundits for the Scotland game and thought that Eilidh Barbour and Shelley Kerr (the lady with the big hair) were very good and Darren Fletcher talks a lot of sense. I didn't recognise the other bloke.
Enjoyed the first half Slovakian performance against the Poles. Apart from their speed on the transition and general derring-do, I like the way they have a man on the other flank to pick up overhit crosses (if only Charlton could have done that occasionally last season).
We'll have to see how they respond to that early second half equaliser.0 - Sponsored links:
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She is knowledgeable and good on tactics, she just has a dull voice. I have one as well, which is obviously the only reason I am not an expert summariser.1
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Speak for yourselfEugenesAxe said:
Because a lot of football supporters are moronic boneheads?AFKABartram said:
Each to their own. I want them to win and I’ve not a deep fried bone in ma body. It all feels a bit fakey hate to me (a la Palace Brighton). I see it more as a sibling rivalry.sam3110 said:I can't get on board with the wanting Scotland to win til they play us cos were all British.
I want to see them lose by at least 5 goals to nil in all 3 games and spend another 20 years trying to qualify for the next one, only for the same thing to happen again
Don't really understand why it’s ok to cheer on Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish athletes, swimmers, cricketers, golfers etc yet have to hate their footballers.Rule Brittania
ps. I’ll laugh whenever they get stuffed though!0 -
I've been really impressed by a lot of the female pundits and presenters.1
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Absolutely. Not entirely sure why the inclusion of female pundits needs to be reduced to calling them “tokens”.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Not clear what's wrong having female pundits? Plenty of bad Male ones...Red_in_SE8 said:
Couldn’t disagree more. Of all the token women commentators and pundits we are currently seeing she is truly awful....and annoying.North Lower Neil said:Emma Hayes's analysis on co-commentary has been really good. Horrible accent, mind!
Every single one of them is or was a top level player or manager. I think we can assume they know what they’re talking about.
@Red_in_SE8 you’re entitled to think Emma is the worst pundit, but I don’t know why you have to make the point about the involvement of females. Unnecessary.3 -
The worst pundit by far is Ashley Cole - nobody else comes close.
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Because so many of them are so bad. Alex Scott is ok but all the others are truly awful. We could be listening to Glenn Hoddle here..Someone who has played at this level and managed at this level and always offers insightful and meaningful comments . Just because they are women doesn’t mean we have to judge them by a different standard.lordromford said:
Absolutely. Not entirely sure why the inclusion of female pundits needs to be reduced to calling them “tokens”.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Not clear what's wrong having female pundits? Plenty of bad Male ones...Red_in_SE8 said:
Couldn’t disagree more. Of all the token women commentators and pundits we are currently seeing she is truly awful....and annoying.North Lower Neil said:Emma Hayes's analysis on co-commentary has been really good. Horrible accent, mind!
Every single one of them is or was a top level player or manager. I think we can assume they know what they’re talking about.
@Red_in_SE8 you’re entitled to think Emma is the worst pundit, but I don’t know why you have to make the point about the involvement of females. Unnecessary.4 -
Clinton Morrison?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:The worst pundit by far is Ashley Cole - nobody else comes close.9 -
Exactly how I've seen it.cfgs said:She is knowledgeable and good on tactics, she just has a dull voice. I have one as well, which is obviously the only reason I am not an expert summariser.
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Robbie "states the bleeding obvious" Savage has to be up there as the worst co commentator.8
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You obviously don't like female pundits - your comments are way OTT. There are loads of bad Male pundits who have clogged up the airwaves for years.Red_in_SE8 said:
Because so many of them are so bad. Alex Scott is ok but all the others are truly awful. We could be listening to Glenn Hoddle here..Someone who has played at this level and managed at this level and always offers insightful and meaningful comments . Just because they are women doesn’t mean we have to judge them by a different standard.lordromford said:
Absolutely. Not entirely sure why the inclusion of female pundits needs to be reduced to calling them “tokens”.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Not clear what's wrong having female pundits? Plenty of bad Male ones...Red_in_SE8 said:
Couldn’t disagree more. Of all the token women commentators and pundits we are currently seeing she is truly awful....and annoying.North Lower Neil said:Emma Hayes's analysis on co-commentary has been really good. Horrible accent, mind!
Every single one of them is or was a top level player or manager. I think we can assume they know what they’re talking about.
@Red_in_SE8 you’re entitled to think Emma is the worst pundit, but I don’t know why you have to make the point about the involvement of females. Unnecessary.
The world has changed.4 - Sponsored links:
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Eilidh Barber is great.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Eilidh Barbour is on TV all the time- she does a good job. I thought Shelley Kerr spoke a lot of sense.Blucher said:I quite enjoyed seeing some new pundits for the Scotland game and thought that Eilidh Barbour and Shelley Kerr (the lady with the big hair) were very good and Darren Fletcher talks a lot of sense. I didn't recognise the other bloke.
Enjoyed the first half Slovakian performance against the Poles. Apart from their speed on the transition and general derring-do, I like the way they have a man on the other flank to pick up overhit crosses (if only Charlton could have done that occasionally last season).
We'll have to see how they respond to that early second half equaliser.
Shelley Kerr was as bad as the two males - biased pretending Scotland were a bit unlucky rather than pointing out they'd got the selection wrong, being poor in goal and up top, better once they switched to a back 4 etc.0 -
Clinton ain't great but I'm sorry he's like Einstein when compared to Cole.DaveMehmet said:
Clinton Morrison?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:The worst pundit by far is Ashley Cole - nobody else comes close.0 -
He's just f***ing annoying and smug.Karim_myBagheri said:Robbie "states the bleeding obvious" Savage has to be up there as the worst co commentator.1 -
good goal that - (Ignore that, just realised i paused the game and are 25 minutes behind on play)2
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Slovakia did well.0
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After his comments about disabled children back in the day, I'm appalled this man still gets a paycheck.Red_in_SE8 said:
Because so many of them are so bad. Alex Scott is ok but all the others are truly awful. We could be listening to Glenn Hoddle here..Someone who has played at this level and managed at this level and always offers insightful and meaningful comments . Just because they are women doesn’t mean we have to judge them by a different standard.lordromford said:
Absolutely. Not entirely sure why the inclusion of female pundits needs to be reduced to calling them “tokens”.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Not clear what's wrong having female pundits? Plenty of bad Male ones...Red_in_SE8 said:
Couldn’t disagree more. Of all the token women commentators and pundits we are currently seeing she is truly awful....and annoying.North Lower Neil said:Emma Hayes's analysis on co-commentary has been really good. Horrible accent, mind!
Every single one of them is or was a top level player or manager. I think we can assume they know what they’re talking about.
@Red_in_SE8 you’re entitled to think Emma is the worst pundit, but I don’t know why you have to make the point about the involvement of females. Unnecessary.
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YESSSSS! The kids are messaging me, saying 'We won!'3
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Poland so disappointing at these major tournaments.1
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Plenty of male pundits and commentators regularly get slaughtered on here. And in many cases rightly so. Are we not allowed to judge women pundits and commentators by the same standards.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
He's just f***ing annoying and smug.Karim_myBagheri said:Robbie "states the bleeding obvious" Savage has to be up there as the worst co commentator.2 -
No, but by labelling them “Tokens”, you’ve basically written them off as not good enough before giving them a chance.Red_in_SE8 said:
Because so many of them are so bad. Alex Scott is ok but all the others are truly awful. We could be listening to Glenn Hoddle here..Someone who has played at this level and managed at this level and always offers insightful and meaningful comments . Just because they are women doesn’t mean we have to judge them by a different standard.lordromford said:
Absolutely. Not entirely sure why the inclusion of female pundits needs to be reduced to calling them “tokens”.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Not clear what's wrong having female pundits? Plenty of bad Male ones...Red_in_SE8 said:
Couldn’t disagree more. Of all the token women commentators and pundits we are currently seeing she is truly awful....and annoying.North Lower Neil said:Emma Hayes's analysis on co-commentary has been really good. Horrible accent, mind!
Every single one of them is or was a top level player or manager. I think we can assume they know what they’re talking about.
@Red_in_SE8 you’re entitled to think Emma is the worst pundit, but I don’t know why you have to make the point about the involvement of females. Unnecessary.
Of course, some of them will be shit. (Probably not as shit as Clive “Cushion-face” Tyldesley or Andy “Pointless waffle” Townsend, but shit nonetheless!) That’s inevitable.But to be honest, I’ve enjoyed listening to input from players and managers that I’m not so familiar with. There’s a lot of decent insight there that is no worse than their male counterparts. I’m pleased both channels have jumped on board here because if nothing else, it reduces the number of pampered self-important male footballers telling us how much better they are than us. And it increases the number of normal people (who are just honest pros) getting some airtime.
I just think it’s a good first step. Women should be involved in the media side of these shows. Once it becomes more normalised I guess people will be less inclined to consider them “Tokens”. But to be honest, it’s disappointing we’re not already at that stage.1
