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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    #AnnounceHeadmaster
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,898
    Pompey Twitter seem to think we’ve offered Stockley £6.5k a week and a big signing on fee - almost certainly nonsense but worth mentioning.
    To be fair £6.5k pw is going to disappear very quickly if he's living in Bexley 
    If Sidcup yes - we have a Waitrose 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,048
    Pompey Twitter seem to think we’ve offered Stockley £6.5k a week and a big signing on fee - almost certainly nonsense but worth mentioning.
    To be fair £6.5k pw is going to disappear very quickly if he's living in Bexley 
    Bloody hell!!  How much is a pint in The Millers these days???? 😱😂😂
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    It is interesting the speculation about Stockley.

    Personally I think that this has been whipped up to create a story. 
  • I know I will receive adverse comments for this but here goes;
    we do have Ronnie Schwartz who is also a striker who like Stockley missed a penalty last season. I know Ronnie didn't get much playing time but that may have been due to a number of reasons including away from his family and his wife due to give berth. I just feel that he needs to be given a clean slate from us and see how he gets on this pre season.
    Berth?

    Ah , he’s definitely going to Pompey then!
  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,825
    It's just possible the Pompey intervention was more a spoiling operation, forcing Charlton to pay more for Stockley wage.

    Just because your paranoid doesn't mean your not being followed.

  • IanJRO
    IanJRO Posts: 691
    Good signing if it happens. All the noise with Pompey sounds like his agent has done his job and pocketed his client an extra grand a week (if rumours are to be believed).
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited June 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    J BLOCK said:
     Pompey offer was 2k a week, so we will be matching / bettering it 
    I find that virtually impossible to believe.
    I assume he is on £5K/£6K pw at Preston.
    I would imagine he is on more than that, we were paying 4ish in the championship and a lot of people thought that was an insult.

    He cost a fee, a relatively big one, I would guess nearer to 10.  But I agree Pompey wouldn't seriously offer 2.
     None of these salaries are an insult except to fans who earn the same a year or less on zero hours contracts. 

    Two thing have changed ....smaller squads and covid. Nobody should expect Thomas to be a charity and plenty of clubs are in shit street right now. 

    Why should a player expect 10k a week or more.

    Premiershit has caused this nonsense. 
    No it hasn't, idiot owners chasing the dream and fans lapping it up has caused this nonsense.

    KDB, as an example, earns about 300k a week.  He helps his club win major cup competitions and league titles.  They make a fortune out of TV rights, prize money, merchandise and other corporate and commercial income.  He contributes a significant amount towards their success and is rewarded accordingly.

    Stockley on the other hand will sign for a club in league 1, have no significant impact on ticket sales, TV revenue, shirt sales, sponsorship etc.  Which ever club it is will lose about 8 million plus next season.

    Players outside the Premiershit, as you so wittily called it, are paid far, far to much.  That's a very different thing.

    Your comparing the salary of the Rock with that of the barmaid in Eastenders.  Yes they are both actors but what one earns has no relevance to what the other does. 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
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  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    League 1 wages of £5/6k+ a week is just bonkers in reality and unsustainable 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Done deal



    Or is it? 


  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Pompey Twitter seem to think we’ve offered Stockley £6.5k a week and a big signing on fee - almost certainly nonsense but worth mentioning.
    That's a similar number to what we paid Lyle Taylor, I doubt it's far from the truth.  It is the sort of number you would be talking about for a "star striker" at a big league 1 club pre Covid. 
    I’d be surprised if it’s that much. On £6.5k a week, Stockley will either be our highest paid player by some way or we’re surprisingly frivolous with our spending. 

    Who knows though, Sandgaard did say we’d blow right through League One…
  • So if £6.5k pw, and if say transfer fee is £450k as rumoured then a 3 year contract would be a commitment of £1.5M by a L1 club. 

    That is a lot of money for a 27 yr old who's L1 strike record last season would have seen him score 18 in a whole season if adjusted pro rata and who has failed in the championship.

    Preston forum poster suggests he was due to sign for Portsmouth today but we came in with a very last min better offer.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    So if £6.5k pw, and if say transfer fee is £450k as rumoured then a 3 year contract would be a commitment of £1.5M by a L1 club. 

    That is a lot of money for a 27 yr old who's L1 strike record last season would have seen him score 18 in a whole season if adjusted pro rata and who has failed in the championship.

    Preston forum poster suggests he was due to sign for Portsmouth today but we came in with a very last min better offer.
    Sounds like he read the same tweets as us.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Pompey Twitter seem to think we’ve offered Stockley £6.5k a week and a big signing on fee - almost certainly nonsense but worth mentioning.
    That's a similar number to what we paid Lyle Taylor, I doubt it's far from the truth.  It is the sort of number you would be talking about for a "star striker" at a big league 1 club pre Covid. 
    I’d be surprised if it’s that much. On £6.5k a week, Stockley will either be our highest paid player by some way or we’re surprisingly frivolous with our spending. 

    Who knows though, Sandgaard did say we’d blow right through League One…
    He wouldn't be, Watson and Gunter aren't on much less.  Washington and Gilbey are reported to be on a fair wack as well.

    So paying Stockley £6.5k is frivolous and paying Taylor £6k is because Roland is a tight arse.........

    (yes I know you didn't say that but, just saying) 
  • So if £6.5k pw, and if say transfer fee is £450k as rumoured then a 3 year contract would be a commitment of £1.5M by a L1 club. 

    That is a lot of money for a 27 yr old who's L1 strike record last season would have seen him score 18 in a whole season if adjusted pro rata and who has failed in the championship.

    Preston forum poster suggests he was due to sign for Portsmouth today but we came in with a very last min better offer.
    Sounds like he read the same tweets as us.
    Maybe although he had posted immediately after the first football insider post came out today saying Pompey that he would not go there and would likely sign for us so seems to have some kind of connection
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    All the regular "three hundred posts and no rumours" posters are going to be so excited when they see all these new posts and so annoyed when they see an actual rumour 

    😂
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    According SalarySport Stockley earns £5k pw. For context that’s less than Ben Watson (and Chuks) Same site says LT was on £5k (but then Taylor is far superior to Stockley) 

    so on 6-7k pw he’d be a top earner but not by loads
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    If he helps get us up, it’s looks cheap
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    edited June 2021
    I’ll worry about his wage when and if he signs. Actually I won’t be that worried then either. 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    edited June 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Pompey Twitter seem to think we’ve offered Stockley £6.5k a week and a big signing on fee - almost certainly nonsense but worth mentioning.
    That's a similar number to what we paid Lyle Taylor, I doubt it's far from the truth.  It is the sort of number you would be talking about for a "star striker" at a big league 1 club pre Covid. 
    I’d be surprised if it’s that much. On £6.5k a week, Stockley will either be our highest paid player by some way or we’re surprisingly frivolous with our spending. 

    Who knows though, Sandgaard did say we’d blow right through League One…
    He wouldn't be, Watson and Gunter aren't on much less.  Washington and Gilbey are reported to be on a fair wack as well.

    So paying Stockley £6.5k is frivolous and paying Taylor £6k is because Roland is a tight arse.........

    (yes I know you didn't say that but, just saying) 
    I have absolutely no idea what the other players are on. I wouldn’t put too much faith in the likes of SalarySport, according to them we’re increasing Stockley’s wages to come here.

    I’m just saying I’d be very surprised if we’re paying Stockley that much as we surely couldn’t/wouldn’t pay anyone else the same. 

    I have no idea where to begin with the Lyle Taylor comment. I didn’t say spending £6.5k a week on Stockley alone is frivolous, I said matching that wage with other players, as well as Stockley, would be frivolous spending in my opinion.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    Anyway, that wage rumour was almost certainly made up by a school boy in Portsmouth. 

    Back to business as usual: wHeRe ArE ThE SiGnInGs?!
  • Charlton43
    Charlton43 Posts: 109
    End of the day we’ve got a very good L1 player coming in. Bar 1 or 2, every other club would kill for a player like Stokkers.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    If those numbers are true, it's a bit weird for a player to leave a Championship side for L1, and get a pay rise!
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    You could assume that L1 wages could be pushed up this season with money at Sunderland, Wigan and Ipswich

    Those clubs could throw it around a bit and drive wages up for us if we try and compete.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Pompey Twitter seem to think we’ve offered Stockley £6.5k a week and a big signing on fee - almost certainly nonsense but worth mentioning.
    That's a similar number to what we paid Lyle Taylor, I doubt it's far from the truth.  It is the sort of number you would be talking about for a "star striker" at a big league 1 club pre Covid. 
    I’d be surprised if it’s that much. On £6.5k a week, Stockley will either be our highest paid player by some way or we’re surprisingly frivolous with our spending. 

    Who knows though, Sandgaard did say we’d blow right through League One…
    He wouldn't be, Watson and Gunter aren't on much less.  Washington and Gilbey are reported to be on a fair wack as well.

    So paying Stockley £6.5k is frivolous and paying Taylor £6k is because Roland is a tight arse.........

    (yes I know you didn't say that but, just saying) 
    I have absolutely no idea what the other players are on. I wouldn’t put too much faith in the likes of SalarySport, according to them we’re increasing Stockley’s wages to come here.

    I’m just saying I’d be very surprised if we’re paying Stockley that much as we surely couldn’t/wouldn’t pay anyone else the same. 

    I have no idea where to begin with the Lyle Taylor comment. I didn’t say spending £6.5k a week on Stockley alone is frivolous, I said matching that wage with other players, as well as Stockley, would be frivolous spending in my opinion.
    It was widely accepted that Taylor was on about 6k a week, when ever his contract, or a lack of a new one was discussed.  I have no idea if Taylor was on 6k a week but I would take an educated guess that it was very close either side.

    Taylor wasn't our highest paid player either.

    My point is that that's the going rate for good league 1 players.  Of course its far more than what they are actually worth.  But to suggest it's frivolous, or excessive, if we actually want to get promoted isn't true.

    Roland spent far more on wages and was called a tight arse.  He spent it horrifically badly, but he did spend it. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Maccn05 said:
    According SalarySport Stockley earns £5k pw. For context that’s less than Ben Watson (and Chuks) Same site says LT was on £5k (but then Taylor is far superior to Stockley) 

    so on 6-7k pw he’d be a top earner but not by loads
    Those sites are nonsense.

    Just guesses with little or no basis in fact
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Pompey Twitter seem to think we’ve offered Stockley £6.5k a week and a big signing on fee - almost certainly nonsense but worth mentioning.
    That's a similar number to what we paid Lyle Taylor, I doubt it's far from the truth.  It is the sort of number you would be talking about for a "star striker" at a big league 1 club pre Covid. 
    I’d be surprised if it’s that much. On £6.5k a week, Stockley will either be our highest paid player by some way or we’re surprisingly frivolous with our spending. 

    Who knows though, Sandgaard did say we’d blow right through League One…
    He wouldn't be, Watson and Gunter aren't on much less.  Washington and Gilbey are reported to be on a fair wack as well.

    So paying Stockley £6.5k is frivolous and paying Taylor £6k is because Roland is a tight arse.........

    (yes I know you didn't say that but, just saying) 
    I have absolutely no idea what the other players are on. I wouldn’t put too much faith in the likes of SalarySport, according to them we’re increasing Stockley’s wages to come here.

    I’m just saying I’d be very surprised if we’re paying Stockley that much as we surely couldn’t/wouldn’t pay anyone else the same. 

    I have no idea where to begin with the Lyle Taylor comment. I didn’t say spending £6.5k a week on Stockley alone is frivolous, I said matching that wage with other players, as well as Stockley, would be frivolous spending in my opinion.
    It was widely accepted that Taylor was on about 6k a week, when ever his contract, or a lack of a new one was discussed.  I have no idea if Taylor was on 6k a week but I would take an educated guess that it was very close either side.

    Taylor wasn't our highest paid player either.

    My point is that that's the going rate for good league 1 players.  Of course its far more than what they are actually worth.  But to suggest it's frivolous, or excessive, if we actually want to get promoted isn't true.

    Roland spent far more on wages and was called a tight arse.  He spent it horrifically badly, but he did spend it. 
    Taylor was a striker at a small L1 club (Wimbledon)  who'd never played higher than that level in England. Thus it wouldn't be a massive surprise if we than paid a striker signed from the Championship a higher wage.
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