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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Nixon is unreal. He must just sit there making stuff up.5
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ct_addick said:Are most players contracts finished June 30th and maybe that's why we can't announce some signings?
yes they finish at 30th June, no it doesn't stop them signing elsewhere and that club announcing it, as with Jordan Graham above.0 -
Only if you are clutching at straws I fear!ct_addick said:Are most players contracts finished June 30th and maybe that's why we can't announce some signings?
The date is when players stop getting paid as I understand it so the window to end June is when players might choose to shop around without it costing them. Some may be more inclined to sign after this point if alternate interest / options aren't farming up and practical issues of moving home / the family etc. start to influence too.0 -
I assume you're new on here........ct_addick said:Are most players contracts finished June 30th and maybe that's why we can't announce some signings?
No that's not the reason. All players can talk to clubs & sign a contract - it just starts on 1st July that's all.0 -
Nixon is as reliable as the accounts run by teenagers. He just makes it up as he goes along, in his case nothing ever sticks!0
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I believe players get paid up to July 31st, even though their contract ends on June 30th.valleynick66 said:
Only if you are clutching at straws I fear!ct_addick said:Are most players contracts finished June 30th and maybe that's why we can't announce some signings?
The date is when players stop getting paid as I understand it so the window to end June is when players might choose to shop around without it costing them. Some may be more inclined to sign after this point if alternate interest / options aren't farming up and practical issues of moving home / the family etc. start to influence too.
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Chunes said:Nixon is unreal. He must just sit there making stuff up.
I think all journalists do that.0 -
Chronicle Live (Sunderland) are saying we are “set to hijack” their move for Viv Solomon-Otabor.
However when you read the article, you realise that they’re putting two and two together to make five. Charlton miss out on Jordan Graham and so now they’re back in for the other bloke and somehow that means we’re “set to hijack” the bloke’s move to Sunderland.Not sure it makes any sense but hey ho, we already saw this once with Stockley this summer. I suppose it’s the new way.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/charlton-set-hijack-sunderlands-viv-208922861 -
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Lazy journalism as per, "look set" aka we haven't and probably won't. Agent trying to negotiate higher wages for his client I'm guessing...Callumcafc said:Chronicle Live (Sunderland) are saying we are “set to hijack” their move for Viv Solomon-Otabor.
However when you read the article, you realise that they’re putting two and two together to make five. Charlton miss out on Jordan Graham and so now they’re back in for the other bloke and somehow that means we’re “set to hijack” the bloke’s move to Sunderland.Not sure it makes any sense but hey ho, we already saw this once with Stockley this summer. I suppose it’s the new way.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/charlton-set-hijack-sunderlands-viv-208922861 -
Jordan Graham's contract with Gillingham would have ran until then though...ct_addick said:Are most players contracts finished June 30th and maybe that's why we can't announce some signings?0 -
It even admits its a rehash of Cawley's article that said we had missed out on Graham.Callumcafc said:Chronicle Live (Sunderland) are saying we are “set to hijack” their move for Viv Solomon-Otabor.
However when you read the article, you realise that they’re putting two and two together to make five. Charlton miss out on Jordan Graham and so now they’re back in for the other bloke and somehow that means we’re “set to hijack” the bloke’s move to Sunderland.Not sure it makes any sense but hey ho, we already saw this once with Stockley this summer. I suppose it’s the new way.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/charlton-set-hijack-sunderlands-viv-20892286
We are so lucky to have him because, as the Stockley issue highlighted, there were at least 3 other "local news" outlets rehashing his article and adding a local spin on it.1 -
This bloke already said no to us in Jan because he did not want to move south … why would he change his mind now unless we offered him silly money … expect him to end up somewhere like BlackpoolCallumcafc said:Chronicle Live (Sunderland) are saying we are “set to hijack” their move for Viv Solomon-Otabor.
However when you read the article, you realise that they’re putting two and two together to make five. Charlton miss out on Jordan Graham and so now they’re back in for the other bloke and somehow that means we’re “set to hijack” the bloke’s move to Sunderland.Not sure it makes any sense but hey ho, we already saw this once with Stockley this summer. I suppose it’s the new way.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/charlton-set-hijack-sunderlands-viv-20892286
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is it really that difficult to comprehend?
PLAYERS CONTRACTS EXPIRE AT THE END OF JUNE BUT THAT DOES NOT STOP THEM SIGNING CONTRACTS AT OTHER CLUBS COMMENCING 1ST JULY AND THOSE CLUBS ANNOUNCING THEM AS SIGNINGS.
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Yep, probably sat at home having a little giggle,....just no getting away from him is thereaddick1956 said:
Fuck Bowyer!cfgs said:
Ps. Don't waste time trying to press play it is a screen shot not a video.cfgs said:
He is as accurate as ever......Cafc43v3r said:
I was going off thisRedrobo said:
The article I saw it was in the headlines and in the body of the story.Cafc43v3r said:
And he didn't specify us.eastterrace6168 said:
Nothing wrong with that quote apart from the first three words..., if it was Cawley...Redrobo said:
According to Nixon the Graham deal with Birmingham is not as far progressed as suggested and that the player is still talking to other clubs, and that includes us.Scoham said:
Not sure it works like that, I’m sure Gallen’s spoken before about working on multiple deals. We know we were after several wingers on deadline day in January but we were never going to get them all.Cafc43v3r said:
Nah we are getting our 1st choice targets first, then we will move on to the second choice ones as and when we have to.Dazzler21 said:This is Sandgaard's first real transfer window, no unusual blocks in place.
Shall we try being patient? A lot of players contracts with their current clubs end on 30/06, they may have ongoing negotiations themselves.
I'd like to think we'd try and get all "free" business done before we start splashing on fees.
We paid a fee for Stockley we wouldn't have for Graham (if he was indeed a 1st choice) and I assume we have now started on the 2nd choice, fee or no fee.
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How many league games had Phillips and Dijksteel played before the season started? We didn't have Cullen and Bielik at the start of the season, which is my point.addick1956 said:
We had Taylor, Grant and Vetokele, Aribo Sarr , Philips, Dijksteel, Bauer, Purrington a younger Pierce and Bielik plus Cullen were in or coming in. Now I wager these players are a fitter and better than the current squad and you have to go some to beat it .Cafc43v3r said:
I wager a lot of money we will have a bigger and better squad when we line up against the massive than we did when we played Sunderland at the stadium of light, you know when we got promoted!! We won't have to play a player signed 48 hours before and a bench of 3 kids.addick1956 said:
So we are then unprepared for the first game. Makes sense.kidbrookeaddick said:You never know, there may be a few who turn up for training today who are thinking about signing and could sign later today/tomorrow. I'm sure there are lots of players interested in coming to us with adkins and sandgaard at the helm. Let's wait until a week before the season starts before we panic
It's about 6 weeks away, any loans or bought players will have done preseason at their current clubs.
We are currently 9 players down, 10 if you include JFC. I suspect we will sign 2 or 3 after the massive game. 7 or 8 over 6 weeks doesn't sound excessive. The Celtic game is 2 and a half weeks away, I fully expect 3 or 4 new players by then.
We didn't sign Purrington until January.
So we had Taylor, Grant, Igor, Aribo, Sarr, Bauer, Pearce and Solly and a load of kids. Oh and Page.
Like I said I will wager we will have a bigger and better squad in 6 weeks than we did then.5 -
WhAt AbOuT tHe WiNdOw!!!!!!!!LargeAddick said:is it really that difficult to comprehend?
PLAYERS CONTRACTS EXPIRE AT THE END OF JUNE BUT THAT DOES NOT STOP THEM SIGNING CONTRACTS AT OTHER CLUBS COMMENCING 1ST JULY AND THOSE CLUBS ANNOUNCING THEM AS SIGNINGS.
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We signed Pratley 48 hours before kick off, with no preseason. If Dijksteel and Philips were so ready why did we sign Steer and play crocked Solly?addick1956 said:
Dijksteel and Philips were ready. There are no yoof coming thro like that and they played at Sunderland or were in the squad. Page was in the team for over 2 months so oh and Page is you being sarcastic I take it. So we had a complete defence , a useful attack and Pratley plus Lapslie. That still seems stronger to me than now.Cafc43v3r said:
How many league games had Phillips and Dijksteel played before the season started? We didn't have Cullen and Bielik at the start of the season, which is my point.addick1956 said:
We had Taylor, Grant and Vetokele, Aribo Sarr , Philips, Dijksteel, Bauer, Purrington a younger Pierce and Bielik plus Cullen were in or coming in. Now I wager these players are a fitter and better than the current squad and you have to go some to beat it .Cafc43v3r said:
I wager a lot of money we will have a bigger and better squad when we line up against the massive than we did when we played Sunderland at the stadium of light, you know when we got promoted!! We won't have to play a player signed 48 hours before and a bench of 3 kids.addick1956 said:
So we are then unprepared for the first game. Makes sense.kidbrookeaddick said:You never know, there may be a few who turn up for training today who are thinking about signing and could sign later today/tomorrow. I'm sure there are lots of players interested in coming to us with adkins and sandgaard at the helm. Let's wait until a week before the season starts before we panic
It's about 6 weeks away, any loans or bought players will have done preseason at their current clubs.
We are currently 9 players down, 10 if you include JFC. I suspect we will sign 2 or 3 after the massive game. 7 or 8 over 6 weeks doesn't sound excessive. The Celtic game is 2 and a half weeks away, I fully expect 3 or 4 new players by then.
We didn't sign Purrington until January.
So we had Taylor, Grant, Igor, Aribo, Sarr, Bauer, Pearce and Solly and a load of kids. Oh and Page.
Like I said I will wager we will have a bigger and better squad in 6 weeks than we did then.
No one is talking about now, we are talking about 6 weeks time? Pray tell me who we are playing now? What times kick off as you seem to be the only person aware of said fixture.
FFS I give up.8 -
We shall seeCafc43v3r said:
How many league games had Phillips and Dijksteel played before the season started? We didn't have Cullen and Bielik at the start of the season, which is my point.addick1956 said:
We had Taylor, Grant and Vetokele, Aribo Sarr , Philips, Dijksteel, Bauer, Purrington a younger Pierce and Bielik plus Cullen were in or coming in. Now I wager these players are a fitter and better than the current squad and you have to go some to beat it .Cafc43v3r said:
I wager a lot of money we will have a bigger and better squad when we line up against the massive than we did when we played Sunderland at the stadium of light, you know when we got promoted!! We won't have to play a player signed 48 hours before and a bench of 3 kids.addick1956 said:
So we are then unprepared for the first game. Makes sense.kidbrookeaddick said:You never know, there may be a few who turn up for training today who are thinking about signing and could sign later today/tomorrow. I'm sure there are lots of players interested in coming to us with adkins and sandgaard at the helm. Let's wait until a week before the season starts before we panic
It's about 6 weeks away, any loans or bought players will have done preseason at their current clubs.
We are currently 9 players down, 10 if you include JFC. I suspect we will sign 2 or 3 after the massive game. 7 or 8 over 6 weeks doesn't sound excessive. The Celtic game is 2 and a half weeks away, I fully expect 3 or 4 new players by then.
We didn't sign Purrington until January.
So we had Taylor, Grant, Igor, Aribo, Sarr, Bauer, Pearce and Solly and a load of kids. Oh and Page.
Like I said I will wager we will have a bigger and better squad in 6 weeks than we did then.
I said a few months back that there are three key dates.
The start of training
The start of the season
The closing of the window
We're now a few days away from the first and so far, not much.
Now, that can change very quickly but so far, not many deals have been concluded.
Doesn't mean Sandgaard is broke or that Gallen is a "twat" as someone called him on twitter.
Doesn't mean Adkins is useless or the recruitment team are lazy or just waiting but ultimately we can only judge on done deals of which so far there are few
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For a squad, so you don't think they were? Even though Dijksteel ended the season first choice and got a transfer? Phillips was one of our best players in the second half of the season even accounting for 'that' mistake.Cafc43v3r said:
We signed Pratley 48 hours before kick off, with no preseason. If Dijksteel and Philips were so ready why did we sign Steer and play crocked Solly?addick1956 said:
Dijksteel and Philips were ready. There are no yoof coming thro like that and they played at Sunderland or were in the squad. Page was in the team for over 2 months so oh and Page is you being sarcastic I take it. So we had a complete defence , a useful attack and Pratley plus Lapslie. That still seems stronger to me than now.Cafc43v3r said:
How many league games had Phillips and Dijksteel played before the season started? We didn't have Cullen and Bielik at the start of the season, which is my point.addick1956 said:
We had Taylor, Grant and Vetokele, Aribo Sarr , Philips, Dijksteel, Bauer, Purrington a younger Pierce and Bielik plus Cullen were in or coming in. Now I wager these players are a fitter and better than the current squad and you have to go some to beat it .Cafc43v3r said:
I wager a lot of money we will have a bigger and better squad when we line up against the massive than we did when we played Sunderland at the stadium of light, you know when we got promoted!! We won't have to play a player signed 48 hours before and a bench of 3 kids.addick1956 said:
So we are then unprepared for the first game. Makes sense.kidbrookeaddick said:You never know, there may be a few who turn up for training today who are thinking about signing and could sign later today/tomorrow. I'm sure there are lots of players interested in coming to us with adkins and sandgaard at the helm. Let's wait until a week before the season starts before we panic
It's about 6 weeks away, any loans or bought players will have done preseason at their current clubs.
We are currently 9 players down, 10 if you include JFC. I suspect we will sign 2 or 3 after the massive game. 7 or 8 over 6 weeks doesn't sound excessive. The Celtic game is 2 and a half weeks away, I fully expect 3 or 4 new players by then.
We didn't sign Purrington until January.
So we had Taylor, Grant, Igor, Aribo, Sarr, Bauer, Pearce and Solly and a load of kids. Oh and Page.
Like I said I will wager we will have a bigger and better squad in 6 weeks than we did then.
No one is talking about now, we are talking about 6 weeks time? Pray tell me who we are playing now? What times kick off as you seem to be the only person aware of said fixture.
FFS I give up.0 -
Yeah can't compare the player they were at the end of the season to the one that was here 6 weeks before it started, which is what 1956 is trying to do.cafcfan1990 said:
For a squad, so you don't think they were? Even though Dijksteel ended the season first choice and got a transfer? Phillips was one of our best players in the second half of the season even accounting for 'that' mistake.Cafc43v3r said:
We signed Pratley 48 hours before kick off, with no preseason. If Dijksteel and Philips were so ready why did we sign Steer and play crocked Solly?addick1956 said:
Dijksteel and Philips were ready. There are no yoof coming thro like that and they played at Sunderland or were in the squad. Page was in the team for over 2 months so oh and Page is you being sarcastic I take it. So we had a complete defence , a useful attack and Pratley plus Lapslie. That still seems stronger to me than now.Cafc43v3r said:
How many league games had Phillips and Dijksteel played before the season started? We didn't have Cullen and Bielik at the start of the season, which is my point.addick1956 said:
We had Taylor, Grant and Vetokele, Aribo Sarr , Philips, Dijksteel, Bauer, Purrington a younger Pierce and Bielik plus Cullen were in or coming in. Now I wager these players are a fitter and better than the current squad and you have to go some to beat it .Cafc43v3r said:
I wager a lot of money we will have a bigger and better squad when we line up against the massive than we did when we played Sunderland at the stadium of light, you know when we got promoted!! We won't have to play a player signed 48 hours before and a bench of 3 kids.addick1956 said:
So we are then unprepared for the first game. Makes sense.kidbrookeaddick said:You never know, there may be a few who turn up for training today who are thinking about signing and could sign later today/tomorrow. I'm sure there are lots of players interested in coming to us with adkins and sandgaard at the helm. Let's wait until a week before the season starts before we panic
It's about 6 weeks away, any loans or bought players will have done preseason at their current clubs.
We are currently 9 players down, 10 if you include JFC. I suspect we will sign 2 or 3 after the massive game. 7 or 8 over 6 weeks doesn't sound excessive. The Celtic game is 2 and a half weeks away, I fully expect 3 or 4 new players by then.
We didn't sign Purrington until January.
So we had Taylor, Grant, Igor, Aribo, Sarr, Bauer, Pearce and Solly and a load of kids. Oh and Page.
Like I said I will wager we will have a bigger and better squad in 6 weeks than we did then.
No one is talking about now, we are talking about 6 weeks time? Pray tell me who we are playing now? What times kick off as you seem to be the only person aware of said fixture.
FFS I give up.
It might be true that someone like Mingi or Henry or Claydon is 1st choice come May, if we started the season with them as 1st choice there would be some serious bed wetting.2 -
Fair point but don't think they are true comparisons. Many people were calling for Phillips to be first choice and it was obvious he was ready, it's not like he got the chance to have the odd 15-20 minutes before he was starting regularly. Dijksteel was already a member of the first team squad too before the season started.Cafc43v3r said:
Yeah can't compare the player they were at the end of the season to the one that was here 6 weeks before it started, which is what 1956 is trying to do.cafcfan1990 said:
For a squad, so you don't think they were? Even though Dijksteel ended the season first choice and got a transfer? Phillips was one of our best players in the second half of the season even accounting for 'that' mistake.Cafc43v3r said:
We signed Pratley 48 hours before kick off, with no preseason. If Dijksteel and Philips were so ready why did we sign Steer and play crocked Solly?addick1956 said:
Dijksteel and Philips were ready. There are no yoof coming thro like that and they played at Sunderland or were in the squad. Page was in the team for over 2 months so oh and Page is you being sarcastic I take it. So we had a complete defence , a useful attack and Pratley plus Lapslie. That still seems stronger to me than now.Cafc43v3r said:
How many league games had Phillips and Dijksteel played before the season started? We didn't have Cullen and Bielik at the start of the season, which is my point.addick1956 said:
We had Taylor, Grant and Vetokele, Aribo Sarr , Philips, Dijksteel, Bauer, Purrington a younger Pierce and Bielik plus Cullen were in or coming in. Now I wager these players are a fitter and better than the current squad and you have to go some to beat it .Cafc43v3r said:
I wager a lot of money we will have a bigger and better squad when we line up against the massive than we did when we played Sunderland at the stadium of light, you know when we got promoted!! We won't have to play a player signed 48 hours before and a bench of 3 kids.addick1956 said:
So we are then unprepared for the first game. Makes sense.kidbrookeaddick said:You never know, there may be a few who turn up for training today who are thinking about signing and could sign later today/tomorrow. I'm sure there are lots of players interested in coming to us with adkins and sandgaard at the helm. Let's wait until a week before the season starts before we panic
It's about 6 weeks away, any loans or bought players will have done preseason at their current clubs.
We are currently 9 players down, 10 if you include JFC. I suspect we will sign 2 or 3 after the massive game. 7 or 8 over 6 weeks doesn't sound excessive. The Celtic game is 2 and a half weeks away, I fully expect 3 or 4 new players by then.
We didn't sign Purrington until January.
So we had Taylor, Grant, Igor, Aribo, Sarr, Bauer, Pearce and Solly and a load of kids. Oh and Page.
Like I said I will wager we will have a bigger and better squad in 6 weeks than we did then.
No one is talking about now, we are talking about 6 weeks time? Pray tell me who we are playing now? What times kick off as you seem to be the only person aware of said fixture.
FFS I give up.
It might be true that someone like Mingi or Henry or Claydon is 1st choice come May, if we started the season with them as 1st choice there would be some serious bed wetting.0 -
Can we get back to rumours?11
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I still think The Chain is the standout track
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If anyone's interested in the HAWALILI ad that keeps coming up, at least it does for me, don't fall for it, it's a rubbish Chinese store that doesn't ship what you order.0
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I would say Phillips is a very good comparison with AMB now. Many people are calling for him now, or were during the season.cafcfan1990 said:
Fair point but don't think they are true comparisons. Many people were calling for Phillips to be first choice and it was obvious he was ready, it's not like he got the chance to have the odd 15-20 minutes before he was starting regularly. Dijksteel was already a member of the first team squad too before the season started.Cafc43v3r said:
Yeah can't compare the player they were at the end of the season to the one that was here 6 weeks before it started, which is what 1956 is trying to do.cafcfan1990 said:
For a squad, so you don't think they were? Even though Dijksteel ended the season first choice and got a transfer? Phillips was one of our best players in the second half of the season even accounting for 'that' mistake.Cafc43v3r said:
We signed Pratley 48 hours before kick off, with no preseason. If Dijksteel and Philips were so ready why did we sign Steer and play crocked Solly?addick1956 said:
Dijksteel and Philips were ready. There are no yoof coming thro like that and they played at Sunderland or were in the squad. Page was in the team for over 2 months so oh and Page is you being sarcastic I take it. So we had a complete defence , a useful attack and Pratley plus Lapslie. That still seems stronger to me than now.Cafc43v3r said:
How many league games had Phillips and Dijksteel played before the season started? We didn't have Cullen and Bielik at the start of the season, which is my point.addick1956 said:
We had Taylor, Grant and Vetokele, Aribo Sarr , Philips, Dijksteel, Bauer, Purrington a younger Pierce and Bielik plus Cullen were in or coming in. Now I wager these players are a fitter and better than the current squad and you have to go some to beat it .Cafc43v3r said:
I wager a lot of money we will have a bigger and better squad when we line up against the massive than we did when we played Sunderland at the stadium of light, you know when we got promoted!! We won't have to play a player signed 48 hours before and a bench of 3 kids.addick1956 said:
So we are then unprepared for the first game. Makes sense.kidbrookeaddick said:You never know, there may be a few who turn up for training today who are thinking about signing and could sign later today/tomorrow. I'm sure there are lots of players interested in coming to us with adkins and sandgaard at the helm. Let's wait until a week before the season starts before we panic
It's about 6 weeks away, any loans or bought players will have done preseason at their current clubs.
We are currently 9 players down, 10 if you include JFC. I suspect we will sign 2 or 3 after the massive game. 7 or 8 over 6 weeks doesn't sound excessive. The Celtic game is 2 and a half weeks away, I fully expect 3 or 4 new players by then.
We didn't sign Purrington until January.
So we had Taylor, Grant, Igor, Aribo, Sarr, Bauer, Pearce and Solly and a load of kids. Oh and Page.
Like I said I will wager we will have a bigger and better squad in 6 weeks than we did then.
No one is talking about now, we are talking about 6 weeks time? Pray tell me who we are playing now? What times kick off as you seem to be the only person aware of said fixture.
FFS I give up.
It might be true that someone like Mingi or Henry or Claydon is 1st choice come May, if we started the season with them as 1st choice there would be some serious bed wetting.0 -
It does, but not until 1st July. It's a contract thing.AddicksAddict said:If anyone's interested in the HAWALILI ad that keeps coming up, at least it does for me, don't fall for it, it's a rubbish Chinese store that doesn't ship what you order.4 -
Yes but to be fair a lot of footballers like Stephens and Maddison, for example, don't know their norths from their souths!RonnieMoore said:
This bloke already said no to us in Jan because he did not want to move south … why would he change his mind now unless we offered him silly money … expect him to end up somewhere like BlackpoolCallumcafc said:Chronicle Live (Sunderland) are saying we are “set to hijack” their move for Viv Solomon-Otabor.
However when you read the article, you realise that they’re putting two and two together to make five. Charlton miss out on Jordan Graham and so now they’re back in for the other bloke and somehow that means we’re “set to hijack” the bloke’s move to Sunderland.Not sure it makes any sense but hey ho, we already saw this once with Stockley this summer. I suppose it’s the new way.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/charlton-set-hijack-sunderlands-viv-208922860 -
There ain't none.Dazzler21 said:Can we get back to rumours?
Just sit back and enjoy the pathetic arguing4
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