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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    SantaClaus said:
    cafcnick1992 said:
    England now 2/1 to win Euro 2020.
    Really? That looks like awful odds to me. 2/1 to reach the final seems about right.
    Bookies arent going to take the risk though are they, make us 4/1 or 8/1 and everyone might get tempted to put a bet on, in which case the bookies then lose a ton of money.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    johnnybev1987 said:
    JohnBoyUK said:
    I'm going to show my age now.

    This thing with throwing beers up in the air when England score... just why?
    3 years ago this seemed to happen alot, i've not been in as lively setting this year. An old mans pub at home and with my dad lol 

    At a guess i am sure its not being a dick and its just having a pint in the hand whilst we score, i tend to personally put my beer on the floor/ table but some people aren't that reactive to the build up, one of my mates did it accidentally against Columbia but we did apologise profusely 
    Exactly.  As much as spill a tiny drop on someone's foot as you walk from the bar and you feel it necessary to apologise profusely.  Everyone's team has scored at some pint whilst you've had a pint in your hand and inside the pub, you wouldn't throw it up in the air and cover everyone around you would you?  It hasnt happened for years... until the last World Cup.  Just find it very strange behaviour in all honesty.

    As it happens, when Kane scored yesterday, I jumped up and nearly put my fists through the ceiling of my man cave but I didnt spill a drop of the beer I was holding...and that was after 4 cans lol.  I'm just middle aged and boring as fuck now.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SantaClaus said:
    cafcnick1992 said:
    England now 2/1 to win Euro 2020.
    Really? That looks like awful odds to me. 2/1 to reach the final seems about right.
    Bookies arent going to take the risk though are they, make us 4/1 or 8/1 and everyone might get tempted to put a bet on, in which case the bookies then lose a ton of money.
    Bookies can always lay off those bets though. In fact going on the exchanges and laying England at 2/1 seems like a good idea to me.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    JohnBoyUK said:
    I'm going to show my age now.

    This thing with throwing beers up in the air when England score... just why?
    I think cause people know cameras are on live reactions nowdays it makes everything look more 'limbs' like. It's not for me cause if you get beer on my 98 England replica I'm gonna wanna put someone in a guillotine but I understand it, good for atmosphere etc.

    Reminds me of a mosh pit at a gig, only get amongst it if you are wearing clobber you don't care about 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,961
    And its £4.60 a pint. I'm drinking it, not chucking it about
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    JohnBoyUK said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    JohnBoyUK said:
    I'm going to show my age now.

    This thing with throwing beers up in the air when England score... just why?
    3 years ago this seemed to happen alot, i've not been in as lively setting this year. An old mans pub at home and with my dad lol 

    At a guess i am sure its not being a dick and its just having a pint in the hand whilst we score, i tend to personally put my beer on the floor/ table but some people aren't that reactive to the build up, one of my mates did it accidentally against Columbia but we did apologise profusely 
      As much as spill a tiny drop on someone's foot as you walk from the bar and you feel it necessary to apologise profusely.  
    Off topic a bit, but reminds me of the time I accidentally knocked a Scotsman's pint out of his hand in a crowded Glasgow pub.
    Talk about instant bowel evacuation, not helped by the knowledge that my grovelling apology would expose my English accent to all and sundry.
    To my utter disbelief he was as sweet as pie about it, happy to accept my offer of a replacement and leave it at that.
    Still get a cold sweat when I think about it though!
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    JohnBoyUK said:
    I'm going to show my age now.

    This thing with throwing beers up in the air when England score... just why?
    It's so odd, presume it's grown from the "here's a reaction to that goal from..." where a few people jumped up without thinking, or got knocked whilst holding a pint while someone was celebrating, and a couple of beers accidently went flying.  Which is slightly funny.

    How it went from that to 300 people just lobbing their drinks around on purpose, no idea.  Stupid.

    Plus with VAR you may have just lobbed your £5 pint away for nothing.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    edited June 2021
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SantaClaus said:
    cafcnick1992 said:
    England now 2/1 to win Euro 2020.
    Really? That looks like awful odds to me. 2/1 to reach the final seems about right.
    Bookies arent going to take the risk though are they, make us 4/1 or 8/1 and everyone might get tempted to put a bet on, in which case the bookies then lose a ton of money.
    The price is right based on the chances of us reaching the final compared to the other heavyweights Italy, Spain and Belgium who face each other before the final.

    Because of that I would wager that if we do win our next two games and get to the final, perversely we will no longer be favourites to win it!
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    JohnBoyUK said:
    johnnybev1987 said:
    JohnBoyUK said:
    I'm going to show my age now.

    This thing with throwing beers up in the air when England score... just why?
    3 years ago this seemed to happen alot, i've not been in as lively setting this year. An old mans pub at home and with my dad lol 

    At a guess i am sure its not being a dick and its just having a pint in the hand whilst we score, i tend to personally put my beer on the floor/ table but some people aren't that reactive to the build up, one of my mates did it accidentally against Columbia but we did apologise profusely 
      As much as spill a tiny drop on someone's foot as you walk from the bar and you feel it necessary to apologise profusely.  
    Off topic a bit, but reminds me of the time I accidentally knocked a Scotsman's pint out of his hand in a crowded Glasgow pub.
    Talk about instant bowel evacuation, not helped by the knowledge that my grovelling apology would expose my English accent to all and sundry.
    To my utter disbelief he was as sweet as pie about it, happy to accept my offer of a replacement and leave it at that.
    Still get a cold sweat when I think about it though!


    You were probably lucky that the Guy's glass was empty and he had already heard your accent and he realized that opportunity knocked. If it was full you may have had a Glasgow kiss. Pleased you lived to tell the tale.  :o

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Callumcafc said:

    I'm going with Belgium/Spain/England/Denmark to go through.

    However would not be at all surprised if it was Italy/Switzerland/England/Czechs
    Hopefully Belgium/Italy to go to extra time, followed by the winners vs Spain to also go to extra time

    That side does have the advantage of the extra day's rest though to slightly balance England so far having 4 pretty comfortable games physically
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.
    If it's Spain then maybe, if Italy or Belgium then I would expect them to be slight favourites.
    I could be wrong and that's why I'm in HR and not an odds compiler!
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.
    Also don't us English go more crazy betting than other nations? Eg. more likely we will back England even if we are priced wrong/ shouldn't be faves. Always feels that way to me, a bit like our English players who are overpriced in a way
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    bobmunro said:
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.
    If it's Spain then maybe, if Italy or Belgium then I would expect them to be slight favourites.
    I could be wrong and that's why I'm in HR and not an odds compiler!
    When we played at home to Belgium in the nations league last October, we were priced 13/10 and Belgium 11/5 with your mob.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    johnnybev1987 said:
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.
    Also don't us English go more crazy betting than other nations? Eg. more likely we will back England even if we are priced wrong/ shouldn't be faves. Always feels that way to me, a bit like our English players who are overpriced in a way
    No, not really - the advent of global online betting has proven otherwise.  
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,846
    Would it not be better to bet on England to get through in the quarters then roll that over to same net for semi and then lump on the winnings again in the final 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    edited June 2021
    MrOneLung said:
    Would it not be better to bet on England to get through in the quarters then roll that over to same net for semi and then lump on the winnings again in the final 
    Possibly - but that's to qualify rather than match odds if you are comparing it to the Outright Winner market.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,865
    Sounds bizarre, but I would actually feel more at ease and safer if we had more challenging nations to face. The best nations that remain, on paper are Italy Spain Belgium and England. 
    I would rather face Italy in the QF. 

    We know more about them and would receive a lot more credit for any form of success.

    We do have really tough nations to face. Ukraine will be very challenging.

    Denmark....please, no. 

    Even Czech Republic would be fucking awful and unpredictable.

    It's going to be tough.

    Come on England!!!!!


  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    Dave2l said:
    Sounds bizarre, but I would actually feel more at ease and safer if we had more challenging nations to face. The best nations that remain, on paper are Italy Spain Belgium and England. 
    I would rather face Italy in the QF. 

    We know more about them and would receive a lot more credit for any form of success.

    We do have really tough nations to face. Ukraine will be very challenging.

    Denmark....please, no. 

    Even Czech Republic would be fucking awful and unpredictable.

    It's going to be tough.

    Come on England!!!!!


    Yes, it does sound bizarre.

    I'm happy with our side of the draw!
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.

    Government should ban international travel too leading up to the final to minimise away fans.



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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.

    Government should ban international travel too leading up to the final to minimise away fans.



    The problem with that is UEFA have threatened to hold the final elsewhere if we don't let them in.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    What was another big positive was getting Ukraine and watching them drop like flies last night. I know it is wrong, but we are only human. I would expect to beat a full strength Ukraine but we might not have to! 
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited June 2021
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.

    Government should ban international travel too leading up to the final to minimise away fans.



    The problem with that is UEFA have threatened to hold the final elsewhere if we don't let them in.

    Just quarantine away fans last minute as they attempt  to enter the ground...maybe use Wembley arena as a holding pen under marshall law.

    Everyone will understand, we're in a pandemic after all.

    We could give the quarantined away supporters  TGI Friday vouchers or something to soften the blow and let them watch the game on a portable telly or something (bound to be one knocking about somewhere).

    Think we should do this so I'll tweet the government and call 119 to tell them my idea.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.

    Government should ban international travel too leading up to the final to minimise away fans.



    The problem with that is UEFA have threatened to hold the final elsewhere if we don't let them in.
    UEFA couldn’t give a shit about fans - it was all the prawn sandwich brigade they were concerned about.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Always hate this bit of a tournament, where the matches start to dry up and we have to wait days between fixtures. Always seems such a big gap after a couple of weeks of basically 2 or 3 games every day.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.

    Government should ban international travel too leading up to the final to minimise away fans.



    Also ban other teams from training at Wembley like we did Germany :)
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    johnnybev1987 said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.

    Government should ban international travel too leading up to the final to minimise away fans.



    Also ban other teams from training at Wembley like we did Germany :)

    Precisely. They can use Harlseden leisure centre 5 aside court providing they fit it around customer bookings of course.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Always hate this bit of a tournament, where the matches start to dry up and we have to wait days between fixtures. Always seems such a big gap after a couple of weeks of basically 2 or 3 games every day.
    agree - roll on Friday, out with a few lads for a few beers and can relax a bit and watch a couple of decent games rather than was us play
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    bobmunro said:
    ValleyGary said:
    With the final being at Wembley, I fancy we’d be favourites regardless of who we would face.
    If it's Spain then maybe, if Italy or Belgium then I would expect them to be slight favourites.
    I could be wrong and that's why I'm in HR and not an odds compiler!
    I'm almost certain we'd be favourites against Italy. I guess if they win the next two in style that could change but I think only Belgium would be favourites against us. 
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,865
    bobmunro said:
    Dave2l said:
    Sounds bizarre, but I would actually feel more at ease and safer if we had more challenging nations to face. The best nations that remain, on paper are Italy Spain Belgium and England. 
    I would rather face Italy in the QF. 

    We know more about them and would receive a lot more credit for any form of success.

    We do have really tough nations to face. Ukraine will be very challenging.

    Denmark....please, no. 

    Even Czech Republic would be fucking awful and unpredictable.

    It's going to be tough.

    Come on England!!!!!


    Yes, it does sound bizarre.

    I'm happy with our side of the draw!
    Fair enough, but it's always a trade off mate.

    No fixture will be easy and it will always be for different reasons. 
    We scored 2 goals in 45mins against the Germans.

    I'm happy we face Ukraine, overall, but just don't want that side of it to make people get carried away.

    I don't think it will be an easier fixture then say, Italy. Maybe I am barking mad. 

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