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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Richard J said:
    Rothko said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Vfrf said:
    noise on another forum that nigel may not be happy with sandgaard, something about broken promises. sounds a bit like panic to me, anybody itk have anthing to say ont hat?
    I believe this could be true, the club been losing more man than expected £11 mill plus a year, which is a lot more than originally expected. This had a huge effect on the transfer budget. The budget is actually less than the year we were promoted!
    The wage budget, when we last went up, was actually massive by league 1 standards.  The problem was a lot of it was tied up by Tommy D and Gobbinson's signings that hardly played.  We had players on about £800 a week that played every week and players on 10 times that that didn't. 
    Vetokele and Sarr come to mind as two players on deals that would even make Wigan blush. 
    Bauer as well .
    Marshall, Reeves, Pearce and Ajose weren't on peanuts either. 
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,484
    Anyone ITK?
    The first rule of being ITK is to never talk about being ITK

    PS home kit WILL be revealed today with EXISTING players.
    @Henry Irving peak in ITKism say never talk about being ITK, whilst delivering something only a member of the inner circle would know.
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    luke1 said:
    So my source in the club has responded saying that his not heard anymore on the medicals. Don’t know exactly what that means.  I’m pretty sure 1 or 2 of you on here speak to the same guy. 
    Sounds promising then 🙄
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    luke1 said:
    So my source in the club has responded saying that his not heard anymore on the medicals. Don’t know exactly what that means.  I’m pretty sure 1 or 2 of you on here speak to the same guy. 
    We've injured them before the medical. Those bloomin' potholes!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    Not turning out to be the summer rebuild we all thought. 
     
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,758
    Not turning out to be the summer rebuild we all thought. 
     
    I’m sure that makes you happy 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Not turning out to be the summer rebuild we all thought. 
     
    5 weeks of transfer window remaining (34 days)


  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,355
    Don't worry about golfie, he's just doing his 'reverse psychology' thing.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    RedRobin said:
    luke1 said:
    So my source in the club has responded saying that his not heard anymore on the medicals. Don’t know exactly what that means.  I’m pretty sure 1 or 2 of you on here speak to the same guy. 
    Sounds promising then 🙄
    Depends on who the source is. If it’s Jason euell and he isn’t aware of any medical, then time to worry. If the source is the assistant groundsman, then don’t panic yet

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  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    It's been underwhelming so far that's for sure
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,628
    For those of you moaning. Are any of the signings so far a disappointment ? Clare and Dobson both look very promising and are the right age to grow with us and provide energy and stature. MacGillivray is at least as good a replacement for Amos. Many who know more than I say an upgrade. We know what Famewo and Stockley give us. We know we’re going to get four more loans. Likely to be a mix of experience and PL prospects. We will also I’m convinced sign another two permanents. Why think those two will be any less good than the business we’ve already done ? Loans are always hit and miss so it’s hard to make any assessment. Chill. Yes we all want more players to come in and so do the club. 
  • Wetting the bed? At this point I'm sh*tting it!

    (Not Charlton related, I just like the way it feels when I wake up in the morning).
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    edited July 2021
    Dazzler21 said:
    Not turning out to be the summer rebuild we all thought. 
    5 weeks of transfer window remaining (34 days)
    Since the window opened (assume 1st June, but have seen 9th June mentioned?) we have signed:

    Stockley - Perm
    MacGillivray - Perm
    Dobson - Perm
    Famewo - Loan to Buy
    Clare - Perm

    Normally we're now entering the time loanees join, so expect a flurry of loan activity over the next month. I'd expect a left back, another centre back and a couple of more attacking players to be our loan options. 

    Also worth noting those that refused to sign new contracts are no longer being paid... This will open the door for us to negotiate with them as they'll likely be more willing to chat.

    Finally I'd be surprised if we're not looking at some other paid signings.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    It's been underwhelming so far that's for sure
    It has, but we’ll see in the next month or so how much that’s the market and how much it’s TS. As TS said we’d blow through this league some are assuming it’s TS not being willing to spend enough.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    Wetting the bed? At this point I'm sh*tting it!

    (Not Charlton related, I just like the way it feels when I wake up in the morning).
    Yes but I don't.

    I wish you would get get out of the bed first. 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,705
    Some peoples thinking is just ridiculous...its been underwhelming its been this and its been that...

    Why do you bother to support the team? Honestly? 

    You want a team that can throw cash around then go and support City. 

    Some on here have a strange sense of entitlement with nothing to back it up.

    As mentioned, there are 5 weeks left of the transfer window and I am confident it will all work out.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,057
    Saw someone mention Sam Greenwood , that would be an interesting loan although I'd assume Leeds would want him to be a regular starter. Scored a stunning freekick for Leeds last night too. 
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Vfrf said:
    noise on another forum that nigel may not be happy with sandgaard, something about broken promises. sounds a bit like panic to me, anybody itk have anthing to say ont hat?
    I believe this could be true, the club been losing more man than expected £11 mill plus a year, which is a lot more than originally expected. This had a huge effect on the transfer budget. The budget is actually less than the year we were promoted!
    Do you mean wage budget rather than total budget?  

    I don’t remember us spending money on a fee last time which we have this time. 

    We are obviously still fairly competitive in wages as signed players over rivals.

    I am quite happy if we are not over paying and offering silly wages. 

    TS is building the club from the bottom up with with a structure that is good enough for me and will serve us well longer term. 




    The total budget, makes no odds if we pay a fee, there is a total budget for the playing side, and spend it on what the feel is best, wages, signing on fee, transfer fees. 

    The league one season we went up, we had some huge wages on the books, which had lowered considerable since then.

    We had Vetokele who was on 10k a week, Nabby On 9k a week. So that took up a huge part of the budget. We are working on similar figures to previous seasons.

    he is building from the bottom up, but we just need to be realistic, on our targets. We are going to be very reliant on the loan mark.

    I wasn’t being negative, the club is in a strong position. But just need to be realistic 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I know it's joked about but the players who were away at the Euros and Copa returning will massively stimulate the market.  For loads of reasons.

    Every club, from the likes of Westham and Everton down are effected by what City/United/Chelsea etc do with their loans.

    It's a massive release of avaliable talent to a starved market and will both directly and indirectly ripple through the leagues. 

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  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,678
    In this weeks episode of the Bed Wetters: Fans cry that Charlton didn't sign a shite striker from Barnsley
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,772
    My mates son was at the game last night and waited outside for Thomas and got a photo with him. He asked about transfers and TS replied “we’re speaking to players and agents every day but most transfers will happen on deadline day “
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    MarcusH26 said:
    Saw someone mention Sam Greenwood , that would be an interesting loan although I'd assume Leeds would want him to be a regular starter. Scored a stunning freekick for Leeds last night too. 
    I think it’s likely that the person who mentioned Greenwood, saw he scored last night and decided to invent a bit of interest of Charlton’s behalf.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,396
    Taxi_Lad said:
    My mates son was at the game last night and waited outside for Thomas and got a photo with him. He asked about transfers and TS replied “we’re speaking to players and agents every day but most transfers will happen on deadline day “
    He’s got a super duper phone hasn’t he.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,057
    MarcusH26 said:
    Saw someone mention Sam Greenwood , that would be an interesting loan although I'd assume Leeds would want him to be a regular starter. Scored a stunning freekick for Leeds last night too. 
    I think it’s likely that the person who mentioned Greenwood, saw he scored last night and decided to invent a bit of interest of Charlton’s behalf.
    Oh fair enough! Don't think Leeds would send one of their best young talents to back up Stockley! 
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Vfrf said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Mendez Gomes has looked tidy
    You are watching a different game to me. Our youngest are better as back up. Thank you for helping us out, but no thanks mate
    Nah I think we’re watching the same game just looking at different elements of the game. I think Gomes did a good job of looking at runs in behind, good distribution to the wings. Downside he had his pocket picked a couple of times but would more often than not have Dobson tidying up should be play for us competitively.
    He looks awkward, and panicked on the ball, his first touch got him in to trouble a number of times. I personally feel he doesn’t improve the squad.
     
    If we are bring a midfielder in, bring one in that improves us.
    I think you may be mistaking that with his desire to do positive things. He looks like a decent addition to the squad to me and if he continues to play like that, we will surely take him on as why have him on trial otherwise?
    Sorry, I don’t see that.. Time will tell I suppose!
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    My only concern is we’ve only replaced some key positions from last season and have three new faces in the squad as we’ve brought Famewo and Stockley back to the club.

    Amos - McGilverrey

    Shinnie - Clare

    Pratley - Dobson

    Famewo - Famewo 

    Stockley - Stockley 

    Still need to replace:

    Maatsen 
    Aneke
    Oshilaja 
    Millar 

    Plus additional signings ideally a number 10/playmaker and another winger/striker. 

    We are short, there is no denying that, we can’t just fill the gaps with the youngsters but I think we probably will with Elewere and Clayden slotting in and perhaps Vennings too. I trust we will bring in some quality signings but this wasn’t the summer I think many of us were expecting. 

  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    NA and TS have very little to do with recruitment of the players .. NA will supply a list of targets to SG and his team and TS supplies the budget .. and that’s it then it’s down to SG to get the players in ..

    we heard that last night NA could not give a definite answer about LB or Gomas because he has to speak to SG … 
  • Ross
    Ross Posts: 4,412
    What is nice is we haven't heard any rumours of teams after our players...
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,448
    Ross said:
    What is nice is we haven't heard any rumours of teams after our players...
    Is there anyone we really have to worry about losing at the moment? 
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