Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

J BLOCK said:

TS attending the Charlton golf day dinner this evening, I’m sure people will hear something.

He's got some serious wedge that's for sure.

cabbles said:

The ‘light years behind Ipswich’ comment on the previous page really tickled me 

Sometimes you just have to accept it is a losing battle and give up trying to be rationale 

LittleAddick said:

jacob_CAFC said:

bolloxbolder said:

Cafc43v3r said:

bolloxbolder said:

Spending big on the women team at the detriment of the men. Sigh. 

How much do you think she is on?  £500 a week? 

I know Wrexham offered her 9k but seriously? 

It was tongue in cheek but I am sure I am not the only one to have absolutely no interest in womens football so I personally don't want any money spent on it. 100% on the team I've been watching for 53 years now. 

Before anyone says it I don't comment on the Women's football threads. No offence meant, just not for me. Paradoxically I currently prefer women's tennis to the mens. 

You don't watch it therefore no money should be spent on it? How selfish is that? I don't watch any women's football either but I wouldn't ever think that's it's not important enough to spend money on, especially in 2021 where there is an obviously massive potential in women's football 

Is there massive potential? I don't dislike it by any means but I really don't know any people that religiously watch it like the mens.  Just don't think the interest is there for it to grow much.p

"Massive" might be overstating it but I do think it's got potential to grow and if so being ahead of the game rather than playing catch-up will be an obvious benefit.

cabbles said:

The ‘light years behind Ipswich’ comment on the previous page really tickled me 

The A12 up to Ipswich really can feel like that long at times

Viewfinder said:

Scoham said:

Henry Irving said:

I thought TS telling a fan last night that we'd sign players but not until the end of the window was a decent rumour but it seems to have gone unnoticed.

There’s even photo evidence of TS with a fan on the Facebook group.

The arrow points to relegation.

I'll be happy if that happens to Palace

rananegra said:

Viewfinder said:

Scoham said:

Henry Irving said:

I thought TS telling a fan last night that we'd sign players but not until the end of the window was a decent rumour but it seems to have gone unnoticed.

There’s even photo evidence of TS with a fan on the Facebook group.

The arrow points to relegation.

I'll be happy if that happens to Palace

I'll grasp at any sign to see those skidmarks relegated!

He didn't update on Gilbey. We know from the player's own words that it was no joke catching it. Does anybody know how he is now?

Think only 3/4 needed .. looked at the squad today and even leaving out Dempsey, Vennings and Harness we have 25 of which 7 are young players .. think that the largest in league one 

RonnieMoore said:

Think only 3/4 needed .. looked at the squad today and even leaving out Dempsey, Vennings and Harness we have 25 of which 7 are young players .. think that the largest in league one 

No it's not

My Mum had one today but she is 86 and not very mobile so I don’t think it’s her

superdulvertonred said:

My Mum had one today but she is 86 and not very mobile so I don’t think it’s her

She may have to do.

Cafc43v3r said:

AllHailTheHen said:

Seeing as everyone loves to comment on Ipswich I'm going to add my 2 penneth.

I'd love to see what their spend is in comparison to the previous 5 or so years for league 1 clubs, particularly on wages. I imagine its way beyond the norm and not a sustainable way to run a 3rd tier club.

They're putting everything on getting promoted this season and whilst there is a very good chance its by no means guaranteed. What happens then if they don't go up. Do they throw a load more US pension fund money at it? Its like the imploding clubs of the Championship have gone straight over their heads.

When Sangaard took over I was more than happy just to have a stable, well run club and I still am. Yes his "blowing through the league"  comments may have been a little OTT but I bet he didn't expect the likes of Ipswich to be spending the sort of money they are and the market conditions to be so tough to operate in.

I want out of this division as much as the next man but I don't want to risk it all paying way over the top for players just to try and match what Ipswich or Wigan are doing.

What is a sustainable way to run a league 1 club the size of Charlton or Ipswich?  People keep talking about it and never explain what they mean.

Ipswich's wage bill, at the moment, will be a fraction of what Sunderland's was in 2019, in fact I would guess its in the same ball park at the moment as ours was in 2019.

They have also sold players, and will sell more to help cover the cost.  They have signed Piggot and Fraser not Kane and KDB. 

I couldn't given an explanation for that but I'm not sure 2019 wages are all that relevant in a post-COVID world where football finances are in a huge mess. I would guess that being sustainable is not paying 3rd tier players £10k a week. As I said great for them if they get promoted as their gamble pays off but what if it doesn't. League 1 incomes can't cover those types of wages so its back to a reliance on rich benefactors or pension funds to cover the costs. What if they then decide to pull the plug if they can't buy immediate success?

Replace “Charlton Twitter” with “CharltonLife Rumours Rumours”...

AllHailTheHen said:

Cafc43v3r said:

AllHailTheHen said:

Seeing as everyone loves to comment on Ipswich I'm going to add my 2 penneth.

I'd love to see what their spend is in comparison to the previous 5 or so years for league 1 clubs, particularly on wages. I imagine its way beyond the norm and not a sustainable way to run a 3rd tier club.

They're putting everything on getting promoted this season and whilst there is a very good chance its by no means guaranteed. What happens then if they don't go up. Do they throw a load more US pension fund money at it? Its like the imploding clubs of the Championship have gone straight over their heads.

When Sangaard took over I was more than happy just to have a stable, well run club and I still am. Yes his "blowing through the league"  comments may have been a little OTT but I bet he didn't expect the likes of Ipswich to be spending the sort of money they are and the market conditions to be so tough to operate in.

I want out of this division as much as the next man but I don't want to risk it all paying way over the top for players just to try and match what Ipswich or Wigan are doing.

What is a sustainable way to run a league 1 club the size of Charlton or Ipswich?  People keep talking about it and never explain what they mean.

Ipswich's wage bill, at the moment, will be a fraction of what Sunderland's was in 2019, in fact I would guess its in the same ball park at the moment as ours was in 2019.

They have also sold players, and will sell more to help cover the cost.  They have signed Piggot and Fraser not Kane and KDB. 

I couldn't given an explanation for that but I'm not sure 2019 wages are all that relevant in a post-COVID world where football finances are in a huge mess. I would guess that being sustainable is not paying 3rd tier players £10k a week. As I said great for them if they get promoted as their gamble pays off but what if it doesn't. League 1 incomes can't cover those types of wages so its back to a reliance on rich benefactors or pension funds to cover the costs. What if they then decide to pull the plug if they can't buy immediate success?

The reason 2019 is relevant is because I know what the wage bill was and there were crowds all season.  So it's the nearest you can get like for like.

No you can't pay loads of players 10k a week in league 1 indefinitely but the alternative isn't zero cost either.

They will have a hand full of players on 10ish k a week but they won't all be on that, most won't be on anything like that.  I would guess their total wage bill will come in somewhere in the region of 12 million quid.  Ours will probably be in the ball park of 8 or 9.  They have, or at least will have by the time the window closes, got in the region of 3 or 4 million plus in transfer fees.  Their total loses will probably be very similar to ours this year.

By investing in players they probably have 1 or 2 they can sell and repeat next summer.  If they have to. By not doing so, if our squad stayed the same, we would just book another 9 or so million loss and be in exactly the same place next season.

What do we do if Thomas pulls the plug because its more expensive than he thought?  You could say that about any of the 80 odd clubs that make a loss every year.