I’d missed that Wednesday received a suspended six-point deduction. If they have any problems paying wages between now and January, they’ll get the deduction.
Matthews is a more than adequate L1 full back (with Gunter), far more pressing areas within the squad
I like Matthews , he had good season when we were last in the Championship. Injuries hampered him last season , as did Bowyer's team selections. Has shown glimpses of quality in the PSF's .
Matthews proved in the Championship season that he needs a run of games to get up to his consistent levels of performance he showed, so Bowyer making a million changes and not letting him have a consistent run in the side hampered his form.
Think he improved when NA came in and stuck with him in a relatively settled side. He'll be fine for us this season!
But you do all realise there are 5 games before then? I would rather not throw 5 games - and whilst we could feasibly bring in the 5-6 top league one players we need on 31st August, I wouldn’t be that confident that we will then go on such a tear up of the division that we can give the rest of the league a 5 game head start.
I love the idea that we're just sitting ducks for our first 5 games unless we some players now now now. We started last season with a backline made up of a centre mid, a 17 year old CB at RB and Oshilaja, with zero other defenders on the bench and more court appearances than senior left backs and we still only lost 2 of our first 5 games. The idea that we're throwing the first 5 games with a starting 11 including a new goalkeeper, two new midfielders, a new CB and a marquee signing up front is such bed wetting overkill I think you've gone through and wet a child's bed in Australia
How much did we miss out on play-offs by again?
How many points did we drop after those first 5 games? It’s that bad run in the middle that killed us, so many opportunities to pick up points wasted.
But you do all realise there are 5 games before then? I would rather not throw 5 games - and whilst we could feasibly bring in the 5-6 top league one players we need on 31st August, I wouldn’t be that confident that we will then go on such a tear up of the division that we can give the rest of the league a 5 game head start.
I love the idea that we're just sitting ducks for our first 5 games unless we some players now now now. We started last season with a backline made up of a centre mid, a 17 year old CB at RB and Oshilaja, with zero other defenders on the bench and more court appearances than senior left backs and we still only lost 2 of our first 5 games. The idea that we're throwing the first 5 games with a starting 11 including a new goalkeeper, two new midfielders, a new CB and a marquee signing up front is such bed wetting overkill I think you've gone through and wet a child's bed in Australia
How much did we miss out on play-offs by again?
How many points did we drop after those first 5 games? It’s that bad run in the middle that killed us, so many opportunities to pick up points wasted.
A dropped point is a dropped point. You don't lose extra points for dropping them in the middle of the season.
But you do all realise there are 5 games before then? I would rather not throw 5 games - and whilst we could feasibly bring in the 5-6 top league one players we need on 31st August, I wouldn’t be that confident that we will then go on such a tear up of the division that we can give the rest of the league a 5 game head start.
I love the idea that we're just sitting ducks for our first 5 games unless we some players now now now. We started last season with a backline made up of a centre mid, a 17 year old CB at RB and Oshilaja, with zero other defenders on the bench and more court appearances than senior left backs and we still only lost 2 of our first 5 games. The idea that we're throwing the first 5 games with a starting 11 including a new goalkeeper, two new midfielders, a new CB and a marquee signing up front is such bed wetting overkill I think you've gone through and wet a child's bed in Australia
How much did we miss out on play-offs by again?
How many points did we drop after those first 5 games? It’s that bad run in the middle that killed us, so many opportunities to pick up points wasted.
A dropped point is a dropped point. You don't lose extra points for dropping them in the middle of the season.
Yeah agree, but how can you expect to be promoted when you go in a run like this? Those 6 wins early on made up for early lost points (including a draw with Sunderland, hardly a bad result, and a defeat to Lincoln who had a great season) leaving us in a good place. We then went on a long bad run and dropped points to teams we should have beaten or at least drawn against.
I’d missed that Wednesday received a suspended six-point deduction. If they have any problems paying wages between now and January, they’ll get the deduction.
Yes, but a riposte to Dazzler's throwaway line about Bowyer's mood change, which is subjective and no doubt tongue in cheek.
My comment about Ronnie's miss is factual, in that if Ronnie had scored that, it would have been a 3 point swing against the team that made the playoffs. Just playing the hypothetical game.
It really bugs me when people don't understand basic causality. If Schwartz had scored his penalty there's no saying what would have happened in later games
But you do all realise there are 5 games before then? I would rather not throw 5 games - and whilst we could feasibly bring in the 5-6 top league one players we need on 31st August, I wouldn’t be that confident that we will then go on such a tear up of the division that we can give the rest of the league a 5 game head start.
I love the idea that we're just sitting ducks for our first 5 games unless we some players now now now. We started last season with a backline made up of a centre mid, a 17 year old CB at RB and Oshilaja, with zero other defenders on the bench and more court appearances than senior left backs and we still only lost 2 of our first 5 games. The idea that we're throwing the first 5 games with a starting 11 including a new goalkeeper, two new midfielders, a new CB and a marquee signing up front is such bed wetting overkill I think you've gone through and wet a child's bed in Australia
How much did we miss out on play-offs by again?
I will assume you've deliberately missed the point there, otherwise I'll feel sad. The point I was making is that last season, when we were completely incapable of bringing anyone in and relying on out of position players and children to make up our first 11, we still only lost 2 of the opening 5 games. That's not our situation now, we've invested in a fair few essential areas in the first team and in terms of a starting 11 I'd say we're possibly only 1 or 2 away from being where we want to be with the starting line up, with other moves likely to be to bolster the squad over a long season. We won't be starting with Pratley in defence this season, I suspect it will go a little bit better than last time when we dropped some points against two eventual play-off teams and a Doncaster team who made a good start (and yet still didn't make the play-offs). Or we could just cry about potential results that might happen in the future based on not getting the signings the fans want exactly when they want them. Whichever.
Yes, but a riposte to Dazzler's throwaway line about Bowyer's mood change, which is subjective and no doubt tongue in cheek.
My comment about Ronnie's miss is factual, in that if Ronnie had scored that, it would have been a 3 point swing against the team that made the playoffs. Just playing the hypothetical game.
So are my examples. It always seems to be Ronnie miss that gets mentioned. Not the stockley or Washington ones.
Its lovely to see people are finally on the same wave length as me with the Schwartz penalty
Am sure a lot always have been but felt at times as though I was solely banging my head against the wall when saying that the one particular moment against Oxford couldnt be used to define what happened last season.
If anything you could look back at that moment, and perhaps the miss against Bristol Rovers as being signs where Ronnie just wasnt going to get any luck here at the club - Had he scored against the latter he'd have had two quick goals early in his Charlton career and he could well have ended up flying!!
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Think him and JJ are really good friends if my memory is right he put him in front of Hamer in his best Charlton 11 played with.
Think he improved when NA came in and stuck with him in a relatively settled side. He'll be fine for us this season!
1. Rotherham
2. Ipswich
3. Sunderland
4. MK Dons
5. Lincoln
6. Charlton
Being harsh on Rocket Ronnie, possibly by a missed penalty against Oxford in the 94th minute.
we missed out on the play offs as a team over 46 games, not because of one penalty miss
Here's hoping
Am sure a lot always have been but felt at times as though I was solely banging my head against the wall when saying that the one particular moment against Oxford couldnt be used to define what happened last season.
If anything you could look back at that moment, and perhaps the miss against Bristol Rovers as being signs where Ronnie just wasnt going to get any luck here at the club - Had he scored against the latter he'd have had two quick goals early in his Charlton career and he could well have ended up flying!!