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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    thenewbie said:
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
    Then one could say the same about Charlie Kirk.  He was there a while.
    You could say it but Crewe look much poorer this season than they have for a long time having lost a lot of their best players over the past few seasons - including Kirk. He was part of a good Crewe team, Gomes seems to have joined a sinking ship.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    thenewbie said:
    thenewbie said:
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
    Then one could say the same about Charlie Kirk.  He was there a while.
    You could say it but Crewe look much poorer this season than they have for a long time having lost a lot of their best players over the past few seasons - including Kirk. He was part of a good Crewe team, Gomes seems to have joined a sinking ship.
    True but you did say being good enough for Crewe makes Gomes unsuitable for Charlton.  That then must apply to Kirk or Lowery. Gomes like one of the Crewe players scored twice ,iirc, against Charlton last year.
    It's really not hard to fathom.
    Kirk left Crewe because he was considered to be one of their best and got a better offer at a bigger club.
    Gomes wasn't made an offer by a bigger club, so ended up joining Crewe.

    You appear to be unable to assess player abilities if they played for the same club.
    Personally I'm certain that Kevin De Bruyne is better than Matt Smith, whilst both being Man C midfielders.
    You mean we might get KDB on loan in January, why not :smile:
  • I’m hearing Kevin De Bruyne on loan in January to help his injury rehabilitation. Great signing if we can pull it off but I do worry we already have enough midfielders. 

  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    edited September 2021
    Wrong thread, ooops. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,982
    PWADDICK said:

    The bloke who went to Wigan?
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    edited September 2021
    PWADDICK said:

    I think we were close to signing St Johnston centre back Jason Kerr, who was apparently travelling down to London to sign for us before Wigan came in for him and blew us out of the water with their offer. Would of have been a wasted journey and pretty harsh on Sam but glad it eventually got over the line.
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  • I work in recruitment, this happens a lot… sadly 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,249
    esseffect said:
    I work in recruitment, this happens a lot… sadly 
    Thanks Steve.
    Its all a bit of a lottery anyway. You never know how good anybody is until they start working for you. Lavelle may turn out to be twice the player Kerr is....or not
  • does sound harsh and it’s why I am not sensitive when players use us as a stepping stone as we give as good as we get in that department. Hopefully he can use that as motivation and show he is the right man for the club 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    thenewbie said:
    thenewbie said:
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
    Then one could say the same about Charlie Kirk.  He was there a while.
    You could say it but Crewe look much poorer this season than they have for a long time having lost a lot of their best players over the past few seasons - including Kirk. He was part of a good Crewe team, Gomes seems to have joined a sinking ship.
    True but you did say being good enough for Crewe makes Gomes unsuitable for Charlton.  That then must apply to Kirk or Lowery. Gomes like one of the Crewe players scored twice ,iirc, against Charlton last year.
    It's really not hard to fathom.
    Kirk left Crewe because he was considered to be one of their best and got a better offer at a bigger club.
    Gomes wasn't made an offer by a bigger club, so ended up joining Crewe.

    You appear to be unable to assess player abilities if they played for the same club.
    Personally I'm certain that Kevin De Bruyne is better than Matt Smith, whilst both being Man C midfielders.
      I know exactly what you are saying but you said of Gomes that if he signed for Crewe he wasn't  good enough  for Charlton.  

    I said that could apply to Kirk. You persistently make statements , this was about playing for Crewe and so not being good enough for Charlton.  That was the subject . Gomes was the object.
    Another object, Kirk could have this said  of him. After all, the comment was about being hood enough for Crewe but not for Charlton. 

    As far as Manchester City was concerned M.Smith wasn't good enough  for Charlton but plays for Manchester City.  I this case then, Charlton  must be better than Manchester City 
    I'm starting to worry about you.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    edited September 2021
    Chunes said:
    thenewbie said:
    thenewbie said:
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
    Then one could say the same about Charlie Kirk.  He was there a while.
    You could say it but Crewe look much poorer this season than they have for a long time having lost a lot of their best players over the past few seasons - including Kirk. He was part of a good Crewe team, Gomes seems to have joined a sinking ship.
    True but you did say being good enough for Crewe makes Gomes unsuitable for Charlton.  That then must apply to Kirk or Lowery. Gomes like one of the Crewe players scored twice ,iirc, against Charlton last year.
    It's really not hard to fathom.
    Kirk left Crewe because he was considered to be one of their best and got a better offer at a bigger club.
    Gomes wasn't made an offer by a bigger club, so ended up joining Crewe.

    You appear to be unable to assess player abilities if they played for the same club.
    Personally I'm certain that Kevin De Bruyne is better than Matt Smith, whilst both being Man C midfielders.
      I know exactly what you are saying but you said of Gomes that if he signed for Crewe he wasn't  good enough  for Charlton.  

    I said that could apply to Kirk. You persistently make statements , this was about playing for Crewe and so not being good enough for Charlton.  That was the subject . Gomes was the object.
    Another object, Kirk could have this said  of him. After all, the comment was about being hood enough for Crewe but not for Charlton. 

    As far as Manchester City was concerned M.Smith wasn't good enough  for Charlton but plays for Manchester City.  I this case then, Charlton  must be better than Manchester City 
    I'm starting to worry about you.
    I’m fairly confident a small number of posters look at others posts and inside their head a subconscious says “how can I turn this into an argument”
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    Happy with Sam Lavelle - a captain & from what I am reading- a great character for the dressing room 🙂 On hearing Alex Gilbey interview on Kyle Andrews excellent new season - The Mental Well Balling Podcast - Alex Gillbey talks about how important a positive & happy dressing room is. Sam Lavelle sounds like he will contribute to this. 
  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 998
    thenewbie said:
    thenewbie said:
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
    Then one could say the same about Charlie Kirk.  He was there a while.
    You could say it but Crewe look much poorer this season than they have for a long time having lost a lot of their best players over the past few seasons - including Kirk. He was part of a good Crewe team, Gomes seems to have joined a sinking ship.
    True but you did say being good enough for Crewe makes Gomes unsuitable for Charlton.  That then must apply to Kirk or Lowery. Gomes like one of the Crewe players scored twice ,iirc, against Charlton last year.
    It's @thenewbie's fault for not being clear and putting his comment in context. If he'd wanted to avoid any misunderstanding, he could've just stuck something at the front along the lines of,

    "Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe..."

    If he'd wanted to make it really unambiguous, he could've gone as far as to add something at the end like,

    "...(or at least, where we want to be.)"

    Some posters don't help themselves when they fail to articulate their thoughts clearly.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,981
    edited September 2021
    thenewbie said:
    thenewbie said:
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
    Then one could say the same about Charlie Kirk.  He was there a while.
    You could say it but Crewe look much poorer this season than they have for a long time having lost a lot of their best players over the past few seasons - including Kirk. He was part of a good Crewe team, Gomes seems to have joined a sinking ship.
    True but you did say being good enough for Crewe makes Gomes unsuitable for Charlton.  That then must apply to Kirk or Lowery. Gomes like one of the Crewe players scored twice ,iirc, against Charlton last year.
    It's really not hard to fathom.
    Kirk left Crewe because he was considered to be one of their best and got a better offer at a bigger club.
    Gomes wasn't made an offer by a bigger club, so ended up joining Crewe.

    You appear to be unable to assess player abilities if they played for the same club.
    Personally I'm certain that Kevin De Bruyne is better than Matt Smith, whilst both being Man C midfielders.
      I know exactly what you are saying but you said of Gomes that if he signed for Crewe he wasn't  good enough  for Charlton.  

    I said that could apply to Kirk. You persistently make statements , this was about playing for Crewe and so not being good enough for Charlton.  That was the subject . Gomes was the object.
    Another object, Kirk could have this said  of him. After all, the comment was about being hood enough for Crewe but not for Charlton. 

    As far as Manchester City was concerned M.Smith wasn't good enough  for Charlton but plays for Manchester City.  I this case then, Charlton  must be better than Manchester City 
    Mate, I never said anything before my only post on the subject.
    It will help you if you read the threads properly.
    Having said that....... 
    Nope there really is no point trying to converse with you. 
    It's surely not possible, as a grown man to  to get most things wrong, so it must he trolling. 

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  • And hopefully this is where the professionalism of the man shines through, and he gives his best. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Gillis said:
    thenewbie said:
    thenewbie said:
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
    Then one could say the same about Charlie Kirk.  He was there a while.
    You could say it but Crewe look much poorer this season than they have for a long time having lost a lot of their best players over the past few seasons - including Kirk. He was part of a good Crewe team, Gomes seems to have joined a sinking ship.
    True but you did say being good enough for Crewe makes Gomes unsuitable for Charlton.  That then must apply to Kirk or Lowery. Gomes like one of the Crewe players scored twice ,iirc, against Charlton last year.
    It's @thenewbie's fault for not being clear and putting his comment in context. If he'd wanted to avoid any misunderstanding, he could've just stuck something at the front along the lines of,

    "Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe..."

    If he'd wanted to make it really unambiguous, he could've gone as far as to add something at the end like,

    "...(or at least, where we want to be.)"

    Some posters don't help themselves when they fail to articulate their thoughts clearly.
    Consider me appropriately ashamed of my blunder...  ;)
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    Chunes said:
    thenewbie said:
    thenewbie said:
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
    Then one could say the same about Charlie Kirk.  He was there a while.
    You could say it but Crewe look much poorer this season than they have for a long time having lost a lot of their best players over the past few seasons - including Kirk. He was part of a good Crewe team, Gomes seems to have joined a sinking ship.
    True but you did say being good enough for Crewe makes Gomes unsuitable for Charlton.  That then must apply to Kirk or Lowery. Gomes like one of the Crewe players scored twice ,iirc, against Charlton last year.
    It's really not hard to fathom.
    Kirk left Crewe because he was considered to be one of their best and got a better offer at a bigger club.
    Gomes wasn't made an offer by a bigger club, so ended up joining Crewe.

    You appear to be unable to assess player abilities if they played for the same club.
    Personally I'm certain that Kevin De Bruyne is better than Matt Smith, whilst both being Man C midfielders.
      I know exactly what you are saying but you said of Gomes that if he signed for Crewe he wasn't  good enough  for Charlton.  

    I said that could apply to Kirk. You persistently make statements , this was about playing for Crewe and so not being good enough for Charlton.  That was the subject . Gomes was the object.
    Another object, Kirk could have this said  of him. After all, the comment was about being hood enough for Crewe but not for Charlton. 

    As far as Manchester City was concerned M.Smith wasn't good enough  for Charlton but plays for Manchester City.  I this case then, Charlton  must be better than Manchester City 
    I'm starting to worry about you.
    I’m fairly confident a small number of posters look at others posts and inside their head a subconscious says “how can I turn this into an argument”
    Oh no they don't. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    thenewbie said:
    thenewbie said:
    mart77 said:
    Madger Gomes who was on trial with us, before moving on has signed a two year deal at Crewe.
    Given their performance and how things look in general at Crewe, I think it's fair to say that him being good enough for Crewe is proof he is not good enough for us (or at least, where we want to be.)
    Then one could say the same about Charlie Kirk.  He was there a while.
    You could say it but Crewe look much poorer this season than they have for a long time having lost a lot of their best players over the past few seasons - including Kirk. He was part of a good Crewe team, Gomes seems to have joined a sinking ship.
    True but you did say being good enough for Crewe makes Gomes unsuitable for Charlton.  That then must apply to Kirk or Lowery. Gomes like one of the Crewe players scored twice ,iirc, against Charlton last year.
    It's really not hard to fathom.
    Kirk left Crewe because he was considered to be one of their best and got a better offer at a bigger club.
    Gomes wasn't made an offer by a bigger club, so ended up joining Crewe.

    You appear to be unable to assess player abilities if they played for the same club.
    Personally I'm certain that Kevin De Bruyne is better than Matt Smith, whilst both being Man C midfielders.
      I know exactly what you are saying but you said of Gomes that if he signed for Crewe he wasn't  good enough  for Charlton.  

    I said that could apply to Kirk. You persistently make statements , this was about playing for Crewe and so not being good enough for Charlton.  That was the subject . Gomes was the object.
    Another object, Kirk could have this said  of him. After all, the comment was about being hood enough for Crewe but not for Charlton. 

    As far as Manchester City was concerned M.Smith wasn't good enough  for Charlton but plays for Manchester City.  I this case then, Charlton  must be better than Manchester City 
    I'm starting to worry about you.
    I’m fairly confident a small number of posters look at others posts and inside their head a subconscious says “how can I turn this into an argument”
    Oh no they don't. 
    You f£@*ing what? 

  • 17 sides began the season in league 1 with smaller squads than last year, clearly covid and a desire to streamline financially have played a major role.
    More here - https://southnorwoodaddick.com/2021/09/05/transfer-window-review-and-squad-thoughts/
  • I wonder how close we are or how long till we bring any free agents in if that is at all the case...
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,030
    Acworth not happy on Twitter when I told him Zeki Fryers is probably joining Stockport.

    He is posting conspiracy theories about Roddy. 

  • 17 sides began the season in league 1 with smaller squads than last year, clearly covid and a desire to streamline financially have played a major role.
    More here - https://southnorwoodaddick.com/2021/09/05/transfer-window-review-and-squad-thoughts/
    Interesting analysis, though I'm not sure it's possible to make that much of a correlation between simple squad numbers, seeing that some of the players will be youngsters on a low salary anyway. And clubs will continue to add players to the squad this season, such as free agents or promoting youngsters from the academy
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