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England v Andorra / Hungary

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,029
    Happy to put it down as an off night, doesn’t happen a lot with England nowadays 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,239
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,282
    edited October 2021
    The number of times we backtrack and allow Hungary to reform, when better ball control/passing and a bit of ambition could see us cause them problems.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,111
    Tammy to grab a winner late on.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,962
    soapboxsam said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
    Yeah dont ever see the sense in taking him off - You always surely hope that there will be one chance that will fall his way. 
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,651
    soapboxsam said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
    how many of those were penalties?
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,509
    soapboxsam said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
    The only team he's scored against this season is NS Mura.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,962
    edited October 2021
    SELR_addicks said:
    soapboxsam said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
    The only team he's scored against this season is NS Mura.
    He scored in each of the last three Internationals this season.
    lancashire lad said:
    soapboxsam said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
    how many of those were penalties?
    Four - Poland | Andorra | Czech Republic | Bulgaria

    Ten goals werent penalties
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,861
    Callumcafc said:
    As it stands, with Albania and Poland at nil nil, only three points required from the last two games to guarantee qualification:

    Albania (H)
    San Marino (A)
    Poland now 1-0 up. Four points needed from Albania & San Marino.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,509
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    soapboxsam said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
    The only team he's scored against this season is NS Mura.
    He scored in each of the last three Internationals this season.
    lancashire lad said:
    soapboxsam said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
    how many of those were penalties?
    Two - Poland and Andorra
    My mistake, his England games didn't show up. 

    Two penalties and goals against a Slovenian team. 

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,029
    A striker goes through a short poor patch and now he’s being doubted. Mad.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,416
    edited October 2021
    Subs not having an impact thus far. A lot of poor touches.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,962
    SELR_addicks said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    soapboxsam said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
    The only team he's scored against this season is NS Mura.
    He scored in each of the last three Internationals this season.
    lancashire lad said:
    soapboxsam said:
    bolloxbolder said:
    Kane has been poor again. 

    He has struggled tonight but Harry had scored in 15 straight qualifiers. 
    how many of those were penalties?
    Two - Poland and Andorra
    My mistake, his England games didn't show up. 

    Two penalties and goals against a Slovenian team. 
    No only the one... His goals against Poland and Hungary werent from the spot
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,962
    edited October 2021
    Callumcafc said:
    Callumcafc said:
    As it stands, with Albania and Poland at nil nil, only three points required from the last two games to guarantee qualification:

    Albania (H)
    San Marino (A)
    Poland now 1-0 up. Four points needed from Albania & San Marino.
    If we cant do that then we dont deserve to be at another World Cup

    Poland have to play Hungary themselves
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ValleyGary said:
    A striker goes through a short poor patch and now he’s being doubted. Mad.
    Yes but by SELR, doesn’t count surely? 
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,485
    Although we didn’t look great most of the game I thought we had the potential to open them up
    down the left side.

    Grealish coming off nullified any threat we had.

    Fair play to Hungary though. They have played very well with some nice pressing and smooth counter attacking football.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,016
    “So Gareth, why did you take off our best player, Jack Grealish?”
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,764
    A load of shit. 
  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    ValleyGary said:
    Them scenes from the Hungary end. Our police are a joke. 
    An embarrassment, only fancy the easy battles.
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,740
    Well, that was shit.

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,029
    Poor performance but it happens to even the best teams.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,962
    ValleyGary said:
    Poor performance but it happens to even the best teams.
    Sorry its not allowed to happen to England
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,861
    First home points dropped in qualifying since Ukraine in September 2012. Think we're allowed one stinker every nine years...
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,282
    That was painful. But better to get it out of tge system tonight. 

    Taking Grealish off was a bit of tactical stupidity.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,485
    I respect Southgate for trying the attacking line up. It was a very good time to try it out.

    It’s also my biggest concern with him as a
    manager. I don’t think he knows how to play an
    attacking system. 

    There’s almost too much attacking quality there and he’s trying to just squash it all together, but it doesn’t quite work. 

    It doesn’t help that he seems to see Mount as the first name on the team sheet, when in all honesty I think he may be the weakest player of that attacking group (Kane, Grealish, Foden, Sterling, Saka). That is not to say he’s bad, I just don’t quite think he warrants a guaranteed starting spot in the team.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,455
    Get him out before Qatar
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,416
    edited October 2021
    When the oppo sit that deep and we're playing in such tight spaces, surely Grealish is exactly what we need. Really strange decision to take him off and we didn't threaten them after that. 
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,746
    ken_shabby said:
    That was painful. But better to get it out of tge system tonight. 

    Taking Grealish off was a bit of tactical stupidity.
    Bang on mate.

    Grealish was the only one with intent and capable of making something happen.

    To much going back, also thought Mings was taking to long with the ball and to negative at times when he could have pinged the ball to the flanks quicker.  

    Thought Sterling was not at his best tonight as well.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,029
    cafcnick1992 said:
    Get him out before Qatar
    There’s no way the FA will sack him and the players seem to like him.

    I do feel it’ll be his decision making that costs us though.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,239
    edited October 2021
    Cafc fans saying England are shit !

    I thought we would go up a gear 2nd half after getting a decent Rhythm as the first half went on. Didn't happen.

    Hungary were good tonight and it was a good test for England but I wanted Southgate to trust Foden in the middle and Grealish on the left with Shaw for the duration of the game. 

    There was 5 Man City players on show tonight; Harry Kane looked upset he wasn't the 6th.

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