Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic vs Doncaster Rovers | Saturday 30th October 2021

Can't stop smiling feeling like dobson is cullen 2.0

Oggy Red said:

JamesSeed said:

That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 

Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?

Last season it was noticeable that Stockley frequently had Shinnie picking out his movement.
He must have provided assists for around 5 of Stockley's goals.

A player often works well together with another individual, forms some sort of on pitch understanding, where both players read each others game perfectly. Without Shinnie, will we see one of Leko, DJ or Lee work well in picking out Stockley?

Picking out the runs for Washington is just as important, if not more so. Those runs completely blow the defenders’ game plan out the window every time.

Bostonaddick said:

Loving JJ’s high pressing all out strategy and his weird formation.  It just seems to fit the skills of Stockley and Washington as they do better with two up front instead of in isolation. It gives Lee a free floating role to find pockets between the opposing teams defense and midfield.  However, it heavily relies on Dobson and Gilbey to cover a lot of ground defensively in order for the “wingbacks” to get forward so we need to keep them fit.  I am still a little skeptical that the back 3 with some sort of combination of Famewo, Pearce, Gunter, Matthews will be good enough against better teams in the league. We will see.

It was good enough against Sunderland.

Seriously, it's a work in progress but in theory this team in this set up should only get better the more they play this way together.
We won't win every game. There'll be matches where teams will work us out - but with the flexibility in the set up/formation, there's options to defend in numbers if the situation warrants it.

We shouldn't fear the better teams. We didn't fear Sunderland and their 100% home record in front of their big home crowd.
That shows we've nothing to fear.

Anyway, in form Rotherham on Tuesday. That's the next test.

golfaddick said:

Bangkokaddick said:

Very pleased to escape my losing streak since I've been back in the UK. Up to today 4 games seen, 4 defeats. Today 4 goals.

I was only reminded once out of the ground & heading for the car that that was my first win of the season. I missed the Crewe match & the other 2 wins were (long) away trips. 

Before today I had seen 5 defeats & 3 draws. 

You should be satisfied then, you moaning wallybrain.,,🙂

jimmymelrose said:

golfaddick said:

Bangkokaddick said:

Very pleased to escape my losing streak since I've been back in the UK. Up to today 4 games seen, 4 defeats. Today 4 goals.

I was only reminded once out of the ground & heading for the car that that was my first win of the season. I missed the Crewe match & the other 2 wins were (long) away trips. 

Before today I had seen 5 defeats & 3 draws. 

You should be satisfied then, you moaning wallybrain.,,🙂

Ha ha! You tell him  @jimmymelrose

After all, you are in prime position to! 

Off_it said:

golfaddick said:

Off_it said:

"4-0 is a very good score but you have to put teams to the sword when you get the chance to".

For real? I've heard it all now. I really give up with some people. Must be on a piss take.

Yes, funny that. Who would have thought that scoring goals & goal difference might make a difference at the end of the season. 

Last season we missed out on the play offs because of GD. The season before we got relegated because of the lack of a goal - if, after the restart in June 2020, we had scored just 1 extra goal (turning a 1-0 defeat (Millwall for example) into a draw or a draw into a win) then the extra point would have kept us up. 

I despair sometimes, I really do.  

That's it, you're definitely on a wind up. 

We win 4-0 and you're seriously moaning that we didn't score more? 

I'm not having it.

He is not on a wind up. But he is laying the foundations for a potential 'told you so' should we lose on Tuesday.

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Oggy Red said:

JamesSeed said:

That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 

Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?

Last season it was noticeable that Stockley frequently had Shinnie picking out his movement.
He must have provided assists for around 5 of Stockley's goals.

A player often works well together with another individual, forms some sort of on pitch understanding, where both players read each others game perfectly. Without Shinnie, will we see one of Leko, DJ or Lee work well in picking out Stockley?

Picking out the runs for Washington is just as important, if not more so. Those runs completely blow the defenders’ game plan out the window every time.

Agreed. I can't remember who played the ball, DJ was it? .......but as we saw yesterday with Washo winning that penalty.

That was sheer lungbusting determination from Washo, to lean inside the defender and get a touch on the ball just inside the box.
Felt a bit sorry for the defender, who IMO had no intention of bringing down Washo - but because Washo got in front of him, just couldn't avoid tripping him on the run.

Oggy Red said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Oggy Red said:

JamesSeed said:

That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 

Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?

Last season it was noticeable that Stockley frequently had Shinnie picking out his movement.
He must have provided assists for around 5 of Stockley's goals.

A player often works well together with another individual, forms some sort of on pitch understanding, where both players read each others game perfectly. Without Shinnie, will we see one of Leko, DJ or Lee work well in picking out Stockley?

Picking out the runs for Washington is just as important, if not more so. Those runs completely blow the defenders’ game plan out the window every time.

Agreed. I can't remember who played the ball, DJ was it? .......but as we saw yesterday with Washo winning that penalty.

That was sheer lungbusting determination from Washo, to lean inside the defender and get a touch on the ball just inside the box.
Felt a bit sorry for the defender, who IMO had no intention of bringing down Washo - but because Washo got in front of him, just couldn't avoid tripping him on the run.

"Washo"? 

Is that your one man nickname for Gilbey?
;-)

delroofer said:

Celebrated my birthday today in the Club 1905 lounge and the win made it a great day, capped off when George Dobson came over after the game to wish me a Happy Birthday after collecting his Man of the Match champagne. A shame that I was caught with my eyes closed in the photo.

Caption competition. 

George has a bit of a bewildered look on his face there, as if he's saying;

"What's that smell, has this old bloke just shat himself?"

And Del has a satisfied look on his face as if to say,

"Oh yes"

Scoham said:

killerandflash said:

I'm still fascinated by our defensive shape, and the amount it relies on players subtly changing roles, especially Ben Purrington.

At the end of the 2018/19 when he would get forward a lot - something Jacko cleared remembered - yet so far we haven't been caught out on our left defensively, with Purrington stranded up field.

Three CBs, a DM, players who track back and our higher more aggressive press are all playing a part.

Replace Purrington, Gilbey and Dobson with Soaure, Morgan and Watson then it’s not going to be so effective.

I’d be looking to bring in more fit, energetic and mobile players in January if we can move a few on. Got to avoid bringing in more Watson’s, Arter’s and Gunter’s, too many in a team especially in more attacking roles limits us so much.

Slightly shocked sir.

RedChaser said:

JamesSeed said:

That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 

Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?

The issue I have with resting Stockley Tuesday is the defensive headers he makes in our box against set pieces. Rotherham’s in form CF Smith is a big unit at 6’3”and we need to match up.

That's a very good point. I'm with you on that.

JamesSeed said:

That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 

Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?

He scored with a header at Sunderland. 

JamesSeed said:

The only downside for me was having to move seats with my son-in-law because the elderly fella sitting next to me had a persistent cough and didn’t even put his hand over his mouth, let alone put on a mask.

Surprised to see that post getting lol'ed. Bloke's head was like a foot or two away from mine and cough cough cough.... agh!! That reminds me, I'm overdue my booster!

Off_it said:

JamesSeed said:

JamesSeed said:

The only downside for me was having to move seats with my son-in-law because the elderly fella sitting next to me had a persistent cough and didn’t even put his hand over his mouth, let alone put on a mask.

Surprised to see that post getting lol'ed. Bloke's head was like a foot or two away from mine and cough cough cough.... agh!! That reminds me, I'm overdue my booster!

Managed to find another empty seat ok though, did you?

There were four right behind us.

Exiled_Addick said:

JamesSeed said:

That’s two games in a row where Stockley has missed simple headed chances. Last season he scored with his head from ridiculous angles - every time he headed the ball he seemed to score! 

Hopefully he’ll have got those misses out of his system now. I wonder if JJ will start Davison on Tuesday to rest Stockley?

He scored with a header at Sunderland. 

Yes and a decent header too.
I was remembering the free header which ended up looping away to Lecko. Nothing against Stockley, but I'd like to see him burying these chances like he did last season.