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Sorry but Jackson has to go.

Cardinal Sin
Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
edited May 2022 in General Charlton
Enough is enough for me. I can't see us getting promoted next season with Jackson in charge. He simply can't motivate his players and tactically he looks clueless. His obsession with 3-5-2 has cost us a shed load of points this season and there is no excuse for the 'bothered/can't be bothered' second-half of the season. We need the biggest clearout we can afford and I would put my money on someone else. It's too important a role to get wrong for yet another season.
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  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    LoOkOuT said:
    Is it really down to Jackson? He motivated them earlier, I don’t think that’s the issue… we’re losing to calamitous mistakes, which is down to the players.

    Blame is equal imo. Shit brainless players + shit uninspiring tactics = shit performances.
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,278
    Yep, I'd rather take the chance on another manager being potentially not up to it, than stick with a manager who has proven he's not up to it.
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    LoOkOuT said:
    Is it really down to Jackson? He motivated them earlier, I don’t think that’s the issue… we’re losing to calamitous mistakes, which is down to the players.
    Has he though, or do some of his teams just have better games on their day or against the right opposition? He brings zero consistency to his teams and the error rate suggests a huge lack of concentration across the side that suggests strongly that there is a lack of motivation to me. He hardly ever makes changes that influence a game other than a fresh striker when we are invariably chasing the game. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    He needs to get the chance to sort it out for next season although I must admit Burstow starting baffled me. If he was our player, fine.
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    Clem_Snide said:
    LoOkOuT said:
    Is it really down to Jackson? He motivated them earlier, I don’t think that’s the issue… we’re losing to calamitous mistakes, which is down to the players.

    Blame is equal imo. Shit brainless players + shit uninspiring tactics = shit performances.
    Agree Clem but I don't think we can afford to change most of the first eleven and leave Jackson in charge.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,002
    I believe he should be given the chance to continue ... the potential is there. 
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    He needs to get the chance to sort it out for next season although I must admit Burstow starting baffled me. If he was our player, fine.
    He's had the second-half of the season and we are no further forward.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Cardinal Sin said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    LoOkOuT said:
    Is it really down to Jackson? He motivated them earlier, I don’t think that’s the issue… we’re losing to calamitous mistakes, which is down to the players.

    Blame is equal imo. Shit brainless players + shit uninspiring tactics = shit performances.
    Agree Clem but I don't think we can afford to change most of the first eleven and leave Jackson in charge.
    In no way am I advocating Jackson being in charge next season. I am firmly in the complete change camp. Jackson, Skiverton, Euell and the rest of the back room staff should go. I'd like to see as many of the players as we can move on gone as well.

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  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,278
    stonemuse said:
    I believe he should be given the chance to continue ... the potential is there. 
    What are you seeing that gives you the idea there is potential in JJ? Try naming 3 things that you've seen since the new manager bounce.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    I have no idea what our tactics are. Does anyone? He's not up to it, which is a real shame, but I can't see how he has the job into next season. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Come in No.4?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Cardinal Sin said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    He needs to get the chance to sort it out for next season although I must admit Burstow starting baffled me. If he was our player, fine.
    He's had the second-half of the season and we are no further forward.
    Not true. We were firmly in the relegation places when he took over.

    The fanbase is so firmly anti-Jackson at this point that it’s nearly impossible not to move on. However I do still believe this is 80% players and 20% management.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    My concern is that he lacks flexibility, but the players he/we bring in will be important and people were saying much the same about Powell. I would back Jacko to have a better understanding of what is wrong than a new manager that we could reasonably attract.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Callumcafc said:
    Cardinal Sin said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    He needs to get the chance to sort it out for next season although I must admit Burstow starting baffled me. If he was our player, fine.
    He's had the second-half of the season and we are no further forward.
    Not true. We were firmly in the relegation places when he took over.

    The fanbase is so firmly anti-Jackson at this point that it’s nearly impossible not to move on. However I do still believe this is 80% players and 20% management.
    He's gotten far more leeway than anyone else would have. The support at Wycombe/MK Dons away was pure poison, Jackson hasn't had any of that - not even when he took us through our worst ever losing run at this level! 
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    addick1956 said:
    Why be sorry about it. We need flexibility.  Our opponents from L2  have done this and us each time, except Cambridge who were unlucky. I am sure Hackson would try to make a spo ge without an egg.
    Because I am not a ready advocate of changing your manager and I feel disloyal in Jackson's case suggesting it, but we can't risk another season like this and I can't see him being able to sustain a challenge.
  • SouthallAddick
    SouthallAddick Posts: 140
    We consistently get done by basic channel balls. Every team that plays us knows it. That should have been coached out of us months ago. It hasn’t. Our build up play is way to slow. That should have been coached out of us months ago. It’s hasn’t. We are a below average third division team. I don’t think he’s the man to turn that round. 
  • valleyaddick
    valleyaddick Posts: 112
    The game was a reflection of the manager! Lacking in any passion , effort and interaction with each other! 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Dazzler21 said:
    Come in No.4?
    We can’t out him yet, he needs to be director and chairman first. 
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  • Stonewallpenalty19
    Stonewallpenalty19 Posts: 317
    Brain dead sacking him now. Lets see how first 10 games go. He's not to blame. We was in the relegation area when he took over.

    Our fan base actually hate on defoe and parker yet have absolutely zero loyalty going the other way.

    Instant success is very very rare 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Perhaps we’re not seeing something in JJ that’s going to come good next season. Currently what we’re seeing isn’t good enough. I expect he’ll start the campaign in charge and hope he succeeds but anything less than top six and looking like top six after ten games and I’ll be calling for his head. 
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    Think we were bottom 2 when JJ took over, we are safe and I think we are all anticipating a fair bit of squad surgery this summer. We need it to meet our expectations, but I don’t think JJ is the problem. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Pavoren007 said:
    Think we were bottom 2 when JJ took over, we are safe and I think we are all anticipating a fair bit of squad surgery this summer. We need it to meet our expectations, but I don’t think JJ is the problem. 
    I think by the time it’s concluded that JJ isn’t up to it next season and I really think that’s the case, next season will be dead and we’ll be having the same discussions. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Whatever happens, I think he'll get the chance to show what he can do next season regardless. 

    We will see for ourselves whether he will be able to turn this squad into a title challenging one. I have my doubts, but there can be no excuses if we're still sat in the middle of the table come November/December time. 

    The worst thing that will happen is if people keep making excuses for him while we continue to settle in midtable in League One throughout next season. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    One thing I will say is this squad was definitely a 'play-off worthy squad' when Adkins was in charge based from comments when Adkins was sacked. 

    Once Jackson has a bad run of form they become relegation contenders that Jackson has managed to do well with. Even after he signs players for hundreds of thousands in january. 

    Double standards like that cannot continue. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited April 2022
    SELR_addicks said:
    One thing I will say is this squad was definitely a 'play-off worthy squad' when Adkins was in charge based from comments when Adkins was sacked. 

    Once Jackson has a bad run of form they become relegation contenders that Jackson has managed to do well with. Even after he signs players for hundreds of thousands in january. 

    Double standards like that cannot continue. 
    Whoever was saying it was a play-off worthy squad was talking out of their backside, with due respect.

    These players are no better than mid table fodder, which is exactly the standard Jackson has us performing to. 
  • Stonewallpenalty19
    Stonewallpenalty19 Posts: 317
    SELR_addicks said:
    One thing I will say is this squad was definitely a 'play-off worthy squad' when Adkins was in charge based from comments when Adkins was sacked. 

    Once Jackson has a bad run of form they become relegation contenders that Jackson has managed to do well with. Even after he signs players for hundreds of thousands in january. 

    Double standards like that cannot continue. 
    Absolutely no one in their right mind thinks thats a play off worthy squad in ability or mentality.
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,278
    Stonewallpenalty19 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    One thing I will say is this squad was definitely a 'play-off worthy squad' when Adkins was in charge based from comments when Adkins was sacked. 

    Once Jackson has a bad run of form they become relegation contenders that Jackson has managed to do well with. Even after he signs players for hundreds of thousands in january. 

    Double standards like that cannot continue. 
    Absolutely no one in their right mind thinks thats a play off worthy squad in ability or mentality.
    We literally missed out on the play offs last season by a hair's breadth, lost very few players from that squad and added a bunch of players that had performed well in other teams.
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