Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.

Alex Gilbey - Re-signed for MK Dons (p37)

1…2324262829…39

Comments

  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Carter said:
    He had a spell when Jacko first took over where he was everywhere and close to being unplayable for his opposite number. That spell was sandwiched by two very long spells of him going missing in games which is something I dont ever look kindly on. The final nail for me was him blatantly getting himself sent off so he didn't have to play at plough Lane as an ex MK franchise player. Told me all I need to know about his character. Jog him on 
    You can't seriously think this. I'm far from a Gilbey fan but this is a terrible take
  • Carl_bratton
    Carl_bratton Posts: 68
    No way will he drop down a division, too good for that. If he is going he’ll end up too hot of league 1. Maybe he wants to go after the way his mate was treated 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Carl_bratton said:
    No way will he drop down a division, too good for that. If he is going he’ll end up too hot of league 1. Maybe he wants to go after the way his mate was treated 
    Yeah, I wondered about that and posted much the same a few days ago.

    Best mates stick up for each other, don't they? 2+2 =?


  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    Probably end up back at MK and smash it. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Carl_bratton said:
    No way will he drop down a division, too good for that. If he is going he’ll end up too hot of league 1. Maybe he wants to go after the way his mate was treated 
    I think League 2 is a good level for him.  All of his best times have come in League 2 with regards to his POTY awards - I don’t know how he would feel about traveling further north based on his age and career to date.  The League one teams that may be in for him are the ones that most probably finished below us, and a lot of them apart from Cambridge are up north.

    MK Dons is an outside chance on the basis he played for them, but if I’ve just finished losing play off semi finalists, why would I want a mediocre player who had a poor season for a team that finished 13th, and was very much part of the reason they finished 13th.


  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    FishCostaFortune said:
    cabbles said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    cabbles said:
    Also AFC Wimbledon could be an option for him
    More chance of us signing Mo Salah 
    I thought Jackson rated him
    The most anecdotal take your will hear. But often when I went for a run, which would take me around Avery Hill Park, quiet early in the morning, I would see JJ and Gilbey doing laps. 
    Thats probably why he moved to Mansfield poor lad.
  • Carl_bratton
    Carl_bratton Posts: 68
    I’m unsure why he has been written off by many and now league 2 is his level. We were crying out for him at the start of the season when he was out with Covid and I know he didn’t finish the season well (like a few) but still think there is valuable player there and if he does go i imagine it will be to a league 1 club 
  • thetomahawkkid
    thetomahawkkid Posts: 763
    cabbles said:
    Carl_bratton said:
    No way will he drop down a division, too good for that. If he is going he’ll end up too hot of league 1. Maybe he wants to go after the way his mate was treated 
    I think League 2 is a good level for him.  All of his best times have come in League 2 with regards to his POTY awards - I don’t know how he would feel about traveling further north based on his age and career to date.  The League one teams that may be in for him are the ones that most probably finished below us, and a lot of them apart from Cambridge are up north.

    MK Dons is an outside chance on the basis he played for them, but if I’ve just finished losing play off semi finalists, why would I want a mediocre player who had a poor season for a team that finished 13th, and was very much part of the reason they finished 13th.


    I was a big critic of Gilbey's performances last season and wouldn't be sorry to see him go, but I think he is better than League 2. There was clearly something wrong last season and he has never really clicked since signing for us, but I still think he could do a good job with the right manager and playing a system that suits him. 

    If it was a choice between him and Albie Morgan, I would choose Gilbey. As much as I like Albie and want him to do well, I really can't see him ever making a name for himself at this level or higher.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    He'll go to a League One club if he does leave. 

    Has okay stats and is an okay player in League One. He's not someone that will stand out but he'll guarantee you 30+ games and 3-5 goals over the season. 

    League Two is below him considering he's been in League One most of his career with decent stats. Not a good player for a promotion but he's fine for a 12-18th place club. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    SELR_addicks said:
    He'll go to a League One club if he does leave. 

    Has okay stats and is an okay player in League One. He's not someone that will stand out but he'll guarantee you 30+ games and 3-5 goals over the season. 

    League Two is below him considering he's been in League One most of his career with decent stats. Not a good player for a promotion but he's fine for a 12-18th place club. 
    Roughly where I am with him. That bit of pace and ability to drive forward with the ball gives the impression he could step up to be a top L1 player but I don’t think we can keep making excuses for him. If we can replace with better let another club take a chance on improving him.
  • Sponsored links:



  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    SELR_addicks said:
    He'll go to a League One club if he does leave. 

    Has okay stats and is an okay player in League One. He's not someone that will stand out but he'll guarantee you 30+ games and 3-5 goals over the season. 

    League Two is below him considering he's been in League One most of his career with decent stats. Not a good player for a promotion but he's fine for a 12-18th place club. 
    I agree that he's a mid sized L1 club type of player. Lincoln, Shrewsbury level.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,567
    Chunes said:
    You know what's weird about Gilbey's best runs of form for the club, they both occured with a new manager bounce.

    Adkins came and he played quite well then fell off a cliff.

    Jackson became caretaker and he played really well and then completely fell off a cliff.

    So is it COVID coming and going, personal reasons, or is it possible he is just another one of our players who showed up when they felt in the mood?
    Could be he should stay away from the edge of cliffs!
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,152
    My one hope for Gilbey is that he fits very well into Lawrie Wilson's old chant. Plus he clearly does have talent. Plus I'm sure he'd be the first to admit this season he's matched the first Wilson criteria. So if he stays I'll have the Gilbey wonderland on standby, and be waiting for his Wilson 'Brighton moment'. 

    I suppose I could be waiting a while.
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,152
    My one hope for Gilbey is that he fits very well into Lawrie Wilson's old chant. Plus he clearly does have talent. Plus I'm sure he'd be the first to admit this season he's matched the first Wilson criteria. So if he stays I'll have the Gilbey wonderland on standby, and be waiting for his Wilson 'Brighton moment'. 

    I suppose I could be waiting a while.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,107
    Jonniesta said:
    My one hope for Gilbey is that he fits very well into Lawrie Wilson's old chant. Plus he clearly does have talent. Plus I'm sure he'd be the first to admit this season he's matched the first Wilson criteria. So if he stays I'll have the Gilbey wonderland on standby, and be waiting for his Wilson 'Brighton moment'. 

    I suppose I could be waiting a while.
    Jonniesta said:
    My one hope for Gilbey is that he fits very well into Lawrie Wilson's old chant. Plus he clearly does have talent. Plus I'm sure he'd be the first to admit this season he's matched the first Wilson criteria. So if he stays I'll have the Gilbey wonderland on standby, and be waiting for his Wilson 'Brighton moment'. 

    I suppose I could be waiting a while.
    You can say that again !
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,152
    Hmm... not totally convinced it was worth saying once, let alone twice...
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Look away now @Leuth.  The air in Rotherham must be a bit funny.  This is ludicrous 

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/one-of-the-best-midfielders-in-league-one-charlton-athletic-midfielder-gets-strong-backing-from-former-valley-team-mate/

    I’d like London news online to put up my post where I say I think League 2 would be a good move for him, just for some balance 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    The Championship for God’s sake - this has done me 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Someone put a fucking gagging order on Washington, this is absurd 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Oggy Red said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Leuth said:
    Morgan looks to get on the ball in the attacking third and play progressive passes. He wants the ball in dangerous areas, and he has not inconsiderable touch and vision. Yeah, he can look ineffectual for games at a time, but there's a quality footballer in there somewhere. Of course, we don't need to choose between him and Gilbey - we can choose neither. But I reckon I know who Garner is going to want more
    Remember Bowyer saying Morgan does the creative stuff but loses concentration on the defensive side of his game, forgetting to track his opponent, etc.

    As we all should know, 90% of a player's game is played without the ball - if a player is not doing his off ball jobs, then a team mate has to compensate and compromise his own offball job ...... and the team shape, gameplan and overall performance suffers too.

    Okay, Claus Jensen wasn't keen on the grunt side of his role either, so Curbs brought Kish in to do that for him.
    But today, that would be a luxury we can't afford.

    It's no co-incidence perhaps, that there's been little demand for League clubs to take Albie on loan.

    Jensen didn’t tackle but he worked he worked hard off the ball - he wouldn’t have survived in that team if he hadn’t .  

    Kishishev rarely played central midfield with Jensen.  

    As much as I think Morgan has talent, please don’t obliquely make comparisons with Claus !
    I didn't make it up out of thin air though. My reference to Claus Jensen was based on comments Curbs himself made on Charlton TV last season, where he specifically mentioned Kish's supporting role with Jensen.


    Kish’s spells in central midfield came largely after Claus left . 
  • Sponsored links:



  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Anyway, hopefully the purge on these self-entitled sports-science-bro nice-guys who moan and whine about not playing in a system that suits them will continue. Washington and Matthews gone, Gilbey next. Oh they're ever so well brought up, so good in social media. Love a round of golf! Get rid of them all. I genuinely think Washington and Gilbey especially were a toxic presence in that dressing room. Oh the system didn't suit you? DIDDUMS. Be like Sean Clare, just fucking get stuck in and play your heart out and don't moan or cause a fuss even if this isn't what you signed up for 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited June 2022
    The fact he thinks "Gilbs" is one of the best midfielders in the league just underlines the poor standards this team has had over the years. I'm so pleased they are being turfed out now. 
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    For what it’s worth here’s my twopence on the  Gilbey - Morgan debate!

    Er… that’s it.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Gilbey to Rotherham then.
    Good, frees up a space for Aaron Henry to try his luck.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    edited June 2022
    Or maybe professional football people see more to a game/ player than fans. Just a thought. 


    WINK stand down people 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Definitely, especially when friends ;)
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,288
    Straight off the line with “provided the system suits him…”
    Which means “everything else in this interview is highly subjective and may not apply at all but I’ll state it all as fact anyway…”
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    mendonca said:
    Definitely, especially when friends ;)

    I'm hoping for a retirement Gilbs and Washo Saturday night football show. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    To be fair, Washington is right. If Gilbey could consistently play well he'd be one of the best midfielders in the league. The point is though that he can't. He can't even consistently play well between receiving the ball and the bit that comes after that. Gilbey can be great at passing, great at running, at driving with the ball, he can put a challenge in, just rarely any of those things in the same game, and never consistently across a season. You can do a million if onlys on players. If Stockley had pace he'd be a monster. If Solly had knees he could have played in the Premier League. If Kevin Lisbie could consistently finish he'd have played in Europe. In Ravel Morrison could have gone a few weeks without imploding his life he'd have won the Ballon d'Or. The whole point with footballers is that it's their limitations that hold them back, and Gilbey's is that he can't seem to actually play football at any consistent level apart from his spells where he's consistently bad.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    EugenesAxe said:
    Straight off the line with “provided the system suits him…”
    Which means “everything else in this interview is highly subjective and may not apply at all but I’ll state it all as fact anyway…”
    It's true though isn't it? 

    Both Washington and Gilbey are probably top end League 1 players in certain roles and aren't doing anything else.  I don’t think either of them are championship players and neither of them are good enough to change the way you want to play just to fit them in.

Categories

“Marketplace”