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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Derby County | Saturday 6th August 2022 @ 3pm

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  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    Excellent result

    Football is a game of 90minutes. Should give Charlton a touch of positive momentum for the next few games 
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    Did anyone catch the official attendance?
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    Serious question here.

    Would anyone be upset if Kirk started next Saturday ?

    For me I was surprised to see him start today but he showed glimpses of quality today and with a run of games I think he could be decent for us.

    I assumed Morgan would give way once Payne was up to speed but tbh (this is hard for me to say lol) he is ahead of Fraser on the showing so far
  • WK6824Nine
    WK6824Nine Posts: 571
    Kirk played well but his body language was still off to me
  • 801912601
    801912601 Posts: 621
    what a welcome back to the Valley. Outplayed first half but great battling to keep a clean sheet. Second half was class, the battling was still there but we also played some lovely football especially on the break, only thing missing was the final ball so many times letting us down. Still don’t understand how Stockley didn’t score in the first half. Big call out to Ben Garner for what he said at half time and the way he used the substitutions.
  • Fortune 82nd Minute
    Fortune 82nd Minute Posts: 8,353
    CH4RLTON said:
    Did anyone catch the official attendance?
    Reported as 17,046.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    AndyG said:
    Serious question here.

    Would anyone be upset if Kirk started next Saturday ?

    For me I was surprised to see him start today but he showed glimpses of quality today and with a run of games I think he could be decent for us.

    I assumed Morgan would give way once Payne was up to speed but tbh (this is hard for me to say lol) he is ahead of Fraser on the showing so far
    I think he is worth persevering with, needs some left foot practice, he did let his man go for the header 2nd half, I think he’s a typical winger as in needing the fans behind him for confidence, if that happens I think he will improve, if he’s here long enough?
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    As the old cliche goes it was a game of two halves. Derby could have gone in at half time three up however that is what the keeper is paid for and boy did he earn his wages.

    Second half was a big improvement although still sloppy at times but we got the goal and could have got more.

    Lovely touch from Kirk for the goal and a lot of good performances all over the pitch to keep us in it.

    Four points out of six and top five, happy days
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  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,680
    What a result. Talked my dad out of backing us as couldn’t see us winning. Won’t deny that I wasn’t impressed when we appointed garner but delighted he’s got that first win.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,587
    WK6824Nine said:
    Kirk played well but his body language was still off to me
    Gave that a lol, were you at the game?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    First half we were awful, second half played really well. I was impressed with the desire and energy from us, with players still pressing and chasing everything down in the 95th minute. Guess it helps though when you can sub 6 of your 10 outfield players.

    Huge let off when the unmarked Derby player somehow headed wide from about 3 yards. Derby are a good side and will surely be in the play off hunt so it's a great win for us and good to get off the mark in the first home game.
  • WK6824Nine
    WK6824Nine Posts: 571
    LargeAddick said:
    WK6824Nine said:
    Kirk played well but his body language was still off to me
    Gave that a lol, were you at the game?
    Maybe I’m seeing things wrong 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    Dreadful first half and much better second half - a battling win. Woolacott looks a decent shot stopper but seemed glued to his line at tines - didn't dominate his box.

    Clare really picked up after an awful first half and showed bags of effort.

    Liked the way we closed the game out 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,587
    AndyG said:
    Serious question here.

    Would anyone be upset if Kirk started next Saturday ?

    For me I was surprised to see him start today but he showed glimpses of quality today and with a run of games I think he could be decent for us.

    I assumed Morgan would give way once Payne was up to speed but tbh (this is hard for me to say lol) he is ahead of Fraser on the showing so far
    Was disappointed with Fraser today. On that performance alone I'd drop him for Payne. Dobson would always be in there for me so McGrandles misses out. I'm not Albies biggest fan but he put in a good second half performance today. And in answer to the first question, yes Kirk keeps his place 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    LargeAddick said:
    AndyG said:
    Serious question here.

    Would anyone be upset if Kirk started next Saturday ?

    For me I was surprised to see him start today but he showed glimpses of quality today and with a run of games I think he could be decent for us.

    I assumed Morgan would give way once Payne was up to speed but tbh (this is hard for me to say lol) he is ahead of Fraser on the showing so far
    Was disappointed with Fraser today. On that performance alone I'd drop him for Payne. Dobson would always be in there for me so McGrandles misses out. I'm not Albies biggest fan but he put in a good second half performance today. And in answer to the first question, yes Kirk keeps his place 
    Fraser was almost invisible.
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,770
    AndyG said:
    Serious question here.

    Would anyone be upset if Kirk started next Saturday ?

    For me I was surprised to see him start today but he showed glimpses of quality today and with a run of games I think he could be decent for us.

    I assumed Morgan would give way once Payne was up to speed but tbh (this is hard for me to say lol) he is ahead of Fraser on the showing so far

    His pass to Morgan made the goal. The weight and deft touch showed his class. Worth preserving with IMO
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    AndyG said:
    Serious question here.

    Would anyone be upset if Kirk started next Saturday ?

    For me I was surprised to see him start today but he showed glimpses of quality today and with a run of games I think he could be decent for us.

    I assumed Morgan would give way once Payne was up to speed but tbh (this is hard for me to say lol) he is ahead of Fraser on the showing so far
    I wouldn't. He had an encouraging pre season and fits how we want to play very well. Thought he was good again today.
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  • Clarky
    Clarky Posts: 582
    edited August 2022
    Game changed after Dobson came on, then Morgan who was atrocious got so much better. Payne is a little fiery character and he will be a proper handful. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    RedJohn said:
    For those that think Charlton were lucky to win, stats confirm the following

    Goal attempts............................Charlton 14 v 13 Derby
    Shots on target..........................Charlton   7 v  2  Derby.



    If we had been 2 or 3 nil down at HT, then the second half would have been very different. Derby could have sat back, and we wouldn't have had the space from which we looked most dangerous.
  • WK6824Nine
    WK6824Nine Posts: 571
    edited August 2022
    We are blessed to have Dobson and cbt
  • CarltonAthleticDance
    CarltonAthleticDance Posts: 181
    lordromford said:
    So happy with that result!


    We’ll done Carlton Athletic.
    😎
    Thanks mate!
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    Callumcafc said:
    Very good interview, only 2 games in but i really like the guy.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,587
    Garrymanilow said:
    I've noticed that Kirk seems very involved with all the players, very integrated. Really nice to see, I hope he stays
    Think it's just taken him time to settle, especially after losing his Dad just before he joined (although I'm sure someone will say their dad lost his Dad when he was young and had to crack on with it wibble wibble).
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    edited August 2022
    Please pull out all the stops to get a striker that fits with the style. 

    In games like this we need Stockley to finish the chances he's given. That first half we had a great chance to be 1-0 under the cosh and he misses every chance he's gifted. 

    Luckily we turned it around second half regardless but in another game we would be ruing those missed chances (like last week for example). 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,437
    WK6824Nine said:
    Kirk played well but his body language was still off to me
    I thought Kirk struggled more than most at the start because he's probably our worst defensive player.

    So as a result he made himself look pedestrian - He then grew into it First Half, and was probably our best player at the high press, if his foot had been working he'd have grabbed a goal before HT when he caught them in possession.

    Was disappointed when he was subbed, as you can almost see him improving as an individual for us, and I dont want to see that progression end per game. If anyone looks at the non matchday content, they'll see that he's really getting involved, which I dont remember seeing previously - Only Morgan provided better delivery into the box second half for me.

    Would love to have insight on the effect that living with Sam Lavelle appears to be having on him.

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