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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Derby County | Saturday 6th August 2022 @ 3pm
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An odd game in that we were awful in the first half, but somehow didn't concede. The centre backs were all over the place, we were constantly overrun down the flanks, and the midfield offered no protection. Only our keeper gets any credit.
Second half we were much better, even if we still rode our luck with more awful finishing by Derby. Dobson showed he is essential in games like this, Morgan showed why he deserves to play BUT not as the defensive shield, and the defence looked more solid, if still not great.
Stockley wasn't great, too slow to get onto low crosses, but also should have done better with his headed chances. Fraser was anonymous, and must be more at risk than Morgan from Payne who make a really encouraging cameo.4 -
Sorry about that. Thirty seven f***ng quid.SheedyCAFC said:Whoever was booing them off at half time have definitely got too used to moaning about things not going well8 -
Funniest part of the day was @o-randy-hunt brother doing the crossbar challenge on not getting it on target 🤣🤣
Was a decent player as well.1 -
Stockley's defensive work was good, his midfield distribution was OK but his efforts as a striker were abysmal, we need a striker who can play effectively to this system, unfortunately Stockley can't.15
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Those saves weren’t luck, they were skill. Those misses weren’t luck, they were a lack of the same.LoOkOuT said:Have we used up all our luck for the season in that first half???1 -
Didn't expect that result at twenty minutes in... In the end we probably should have had more!0
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Can’t remember a half time turnaround like that for a while. We were getting schooled first half but seemed to learn the lesson quickly because second half it was like the teams had swapped shirts. Derby came back into it a bit after we scored so it wasn’t quite as one sided as the first half but, despite them missing one sitter, l felt pretty secure at 1-0.
Dobson showed Garner what he’s all about today. Definitely room for him in this system, imo. Albie was great second half. Nice cameo from Payne. MOTM between Clare and Wollacott for me.
It was Kirk’s best game in a Charlton shirt. Hopefully a lot more to come. I liked the balance of him and CBT, with DJ as a sub, once we’re winning, because DJ will a work bit harder on the defensive side.O’Connell got a lot better second half too, read play well to make some interceptions and got his passing going. Up until then I thought he’d had 3 poor halves out of 3 so far this season. Hopefully that settles him down a bit and he can build on it.
Cant expect to start matches like that every week and get away with it like we did today, but it was also an enjoyable second half which hopefully hints at what’s to come.7 - Sponsored links:
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Surprised it's not been said yet but who was that cnut who ran on during the minutes applause with the corner flag. Lifetime ban isn't it now. Good to see the Derby fans giving stick to one of their own as he was led off.
Not many times we've had such a moment for players I've actually seen play, Walker and Tutt in this instance, brought a tear to my eye I must admit.16 -
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Fraser was almost invisible.LargeAddick said:
Was disappointed with Fraser today. On that performance alone I'd drop him for Payne. Dobson would always be in there for me so McGrandles misses out. I'm not Albies biggest fan but he put in a good second half performance today. And in answer to the first question, yes Kirk keeps his placeAndyG said:Serious question here.
Would anyone be upset if Kirk started next Saturday ?
For me I was surprised to see him start today but he showed glimpses of quality today and with a run of games I think he could be decent for us.
I assumed Morgan would give way once Payne was up to speed but tbh (this is hard for me to say lol) he is ahead of Fraser on the showing so far1 -
Was he one of theirs? Absolute prick.LargeAddick said:Surprised it's not been said yet but who was that cnut who ran on during the minutes applause with the corner flag. Lifetime ban isn't it now. Good to see the Derby fans giving stick to one of their own as he was led off.
Not many times we've had such a moment for players I've actually seen play, Walker and Tutt in this instance, brought a tear to my eye I must admit.2 -
First things first, Mendez-Laing is a real life Robocop.1
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Garner was anxious to give all the outfield subs some minutes.SouthLondonisRed said:I’ve just got in from being out for the day, don’t want to put a negative point because today was a superb result but I see we made 6 subs today when I thought it was only 5 in the football league?
If he could have got away with it, he'd have also brought on Gillivray in the 1st half and played with 2 keepers, as it looked like the only way to stop Derby scoring.
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Leaburn's cameo impressed me. Looks strong and confident and helped close the game out.
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Thought he stuck to the line quite well today - Shouldnt be sniffed at1StevieG said:First things first, Mendez-Laing is a real life Robocop.7 -
I thought Fraser did okay between 45-60 then looked fucked.
Dont think he should start the next league game.2 -
Thoughts from Liam Rosenior
https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2022/08/post-match-verdict-liam-rosenior-vs-charlton-athletic-a
Thoughts from Sam Bird (Midfielder)
https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2022/08/bird-frustrated-with-defeat-against-charlton-athletic
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Was that the first English domestic game with 6 subs? Not sure if there were any concussion subs last week.2
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An important three points.
Outplayed early on but we grew in to it.
Dobson coming on seemed to change things, we played much better and further up the pitch, Stockley should have scored but we needed good saves from Ghana's number 1 (clear as day why he's also our number 1).
Dobbo showed he can play Garnerball and do it well.
2nd half we were much better although Derby still wasted chances. Our high press had them panicking
Hard fought but ultimately a deserved win because possession and chances don't win games, goals do and we got 100% of them.
Second week running the winger from the other side scored coming into the box. Nice one CBT.
Thought Innis, Payne, Clare and Sessegnon all did well.
Kirk put in some tempting crosses but could have shots instead sometimes.
O’Connell looked like he is still adapting to League 1
Still a question mark over whether Stockley suits this style of play but Davies is a very good defender.
Hope McGrandles concussion is OK.
MOTM goes to Morgan. He wasn't perfect, especially early on but as he got better so did the team, he got an assist and a took a yellow for the team. Clever game management at the end.
Twat of the day goes to the idiot who ran on during the minutes applause. Enjoy your criminal conviction and football banning order. Sure you'll regret it when you sober and you realise how disrespectful it was.13 -
PWR.
What an odd game. One that will be brought up whenever a discussion is had about lucky points.
As I said on the match thread - no point moaning about the calamitous back passes or being caught in position 30 yards from our goal, it is what it is. That is Garnerball.
Still think Stockley is not the player you need in that team & with that formation, and to win games more clearly the front 3 have to be clinical/more confident in front of goal. Kirk wasted some chances (and I'm not counting the attempted lob in the first half) and Leaburn is too raw. Payne showed the guile & trickery needed in that position.
But a win from the jaws of defeat can't be moaned at. CBT, Clare (2nd half) Dobson & Morgan all come out with credit. Centre halves less so. Woolacott MOTM for his first half efforts as without his saves we would have sunk without trace.3 -
But apart from that it was good 👍killerandflash said:An odd game in that we were awful in the first half, but somehow didn't concede. The centre backs were all over the place, we were constantly overrun down the flanks, and the midfield offered no protection.1 -
My only assumption on that was the pratt had been on the sauce since the morning and in his inebriated logic was doing a show of respect in waving the Charlton corner flag.LargeAddick said:Surprised it's not been said yet but who was that cnut who ran on during the minutes applause with the corner flag. Lifetime ban isn't it now. Good to see the Derby fans giving stick to one of their own as he was led off.
Not many times we've had such a moment for players I've actually seen play, Walker and Tutt in this instance, brought a tear to my eye I must admit.
If not then God knows what was going through his swede.1 -
Yeah, there’s looks to be something up with him to me. Seems a bit off the pace an tires quickly. There’s flashes of quality in the way he turns away from a man but he’s quickly caught and crowded out again. Night and day between him and the energy levels of Albie and Payne. Shame one or those two isn’t a bit bigger physically.ValleyGary said:I thought Fraser did okay between 45-60 then looked fucked.
Dont think he should start the next league game.0 -
Stats don't show the true state of the game. Anyone there will tell you we were on a hiding to nothing. No one could have complained if we had gone in 3-0 down. XG will have a field day with this one but I'd say the "proper score" could have been 6-6.Callumcafc said:To build on @RedJohn ‘s post above…First half stats…
Possession: 38-62
Shots: 4-8
On Target: 1-2
Second half stats…
Possession: 44-56
Shots: 10-5
On Target: 6-05 -
We're lucky to have you Louis.LouisMend said:
Thanks for the work you do.8 -
Was it a Derby or charlton fan.0
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I think Derby. He seemed to be smiling and waving to them as he went off only to get a volley of abuse in return.cazo said:Was it a Derby or charlton fan.1
