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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,238
    MillwallFan said:
    Dave2l said:
    CH4RLTON said:
    I do hope Sandgaard doesn't get too much stick today, whatever we think of him, he saved our club

    In terms of him saving us, its like stopping someone from getting run over by a car

    Only to repeatedly punch the individual in the face a month after and still ruin its life.

    It's not dead, but starting to wish it was 
    I’m sorry, I take no pleasure in your current predicament, and I mean that, but that is a brilliant analogy. 😂
    Isn't that strange. A Millwall fan who takes no pleasure from our predicament when we have fans on here saying they enjoy reading tweets from a guy who gives details of how badly run our Club is. Personally, I find them rather worrying and they make me angry. I take no pleasure from them at all.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    he's a 'devil' we are getting to know .. I really hope he improves his knowledge of English football and becomes less averse to spending his money on good players, IF he doesn't he (and we) will be stuck in the lower divisions for a long time .. all the best very Sandy, just get more 'with it'
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,411
    Well I can certainly lighten the mood... I found a pound coin down the back of the sofa this morning!
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,238
    Lincsaddick said:
    he's a 'devil' we are getting to know .. I really hope he improves his knowledge of English football and becomes less averse to spending his money on good players, IF he doesn't he (and we) will be stuck in the lower divisions for a long time .. all the best very Sandy, just get more 'with it'
    Ever the optimist mate.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,238
    soapy_jones said:
    Well I can certainly lighten the mood... I found a pound coin down the back of the sofa this morning!
    Are you buying the Club?
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,384
    swordfish said:
    soapy_jones said:
    Well I can certainly lighten the mood... I found a pound coin down the back of the sofa this morning!
    Are you buying the Club?

    .an omen perhaps…
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,411
    swordfish said:
    soapy_jones said:
    Well I can certainly lighten the mood... I found a pound coin down the back of the sofa this morning!
    Are you buying the Club?
    Overpriced at a pound mate.


  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    he's a 'devil' we are getting to know .. I really hope he improves his knowledge of English football and becomes less averse to spending his money on good players, IF he doesn't he (and we) will be stuck in the lower divisions for a long time .. all the best very Sandy, just get more 'with it'
    Ever the optimist mate.
    mmmm .. not always .. anyway how are you Gary ? .. in Brazil yet ?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cabbles said:
    J BLOCK said:
    swordfish said:
    J BLOCK said:
    I’m confident his ego will drive him to have a walk round the pitch at some point again soon. Will be in for a wake up call when he does and I’m all for it 
    If true that Raelynn has been forced to stay in the States due to the actions of Club employees, I'd take a wild guess and say that he's probably wide awake already.
    I’m pretty sure he doesn’t know how the full extent of how the fans feel. 
    On here.  I think we also have to take into account we’re only 1000 odd and outside of here, we’ve no idea to what extent the majority of our feelings are replicated.  

    It could be similar, but we all do whip each other up on here with momentum given the communal element to the site.

    Personally I think it’s a lot more now that are getting a bit fed up, but it’s hard to quantify outside of here as it’s a bit of an echo chamber 
    The echo chamber is always a danger but the attendances say a hell of a lot.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,559
    Airman Brown said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Airman Brown said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Off_it said:
    MarcusH26 said:


    He's going for it isn't it?

    But could this particular tweet backfire if the club ends up getting fined and/or the block goes back on and people start bleating they can't watch games without getting off their arses again?
    What I don't get about this (and why I suspect that isn't the whole story) is how would it benefit without publicity?

    Those that choose already to cheat the system via a VPN will already do this and can continue to do so. Anybody new  will assume they cannot do it for a 3pm game based on what is publicised by the club i.e. overseas only and probably wont try. Those that play by the rules will be unaware.

    If anyone tries on the off chance and were successful (if indeed blocks were deliberately removed)  they are surely going to be negligible numbers. A few tenner's here and there wont change the cost base for TS. The risk of EFL sanction is surely much greater than any extra revenue.

    I can believe them turning a blind eye to VPN activity and not making attempts to close it down, as I imagine, that is a grey area to defend with the EFL - but I am guessing.

    I cant see lifting the UK restriction beyond maybe supporting a subtle experiment makes much sense. Maybe they could argue they are gathering data / MI to support a challenge to the EFL on what broadcast rights need to change to ? That is of course a sympathetic hypothetical argument (based on absolutely nothing) but I just don't see how the so called 'leak' is a deliberate action that will make much impact.

    The same bloke who thought the outside chance of a free beer at the next match would sell a £29/£32 ticket?
    So if you are just saying he is a very poor judge of what income streams exist are we to believe there wasn’t an internal conversation when he suggested or instructed this? 

    I find it interesting to imagine that no one pointed out the flaw in unblocking versus the risk. 

    If we really do have an insider what was the argument given for unblocking?
    Staff were told they should leave if they didn’t believe the ground could be sold out. This is not an environment where staff are encouraged to challenge or question edicts from above - people have been removed for having a different opinion from Thomas and Raelynn, so why would they?
    Where I worked previously,  the boss proudly presented plans for a new office,  warehouse and workshop. 

    He left it in the tea room for us all to admire saying feel free to come forward with suggestions to improve them, and of course I will ignore what you say.

    Every one of us immediately saw a flaw in his plan, the workshop area door was too low for a forklift. Nobody told him because we didn't want to feel ignored!

    Treat your staff like shit and get it back in kind.

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    one partially redeeming factor is the current economic situation .. double whammy .. fans/casual now and then spectators at the Valley are loath to spend a lot on football, and the club overheads have risen by a LOT
  • cafc_4life
    cafc_4life Posts: 458
    Lordflashheart said:


    On house outside Valley today !!
    We have a strange fan base at times 
  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,834
    In the Valley cafe now, never seen it so empty an hour before ko
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,740
    Addictedoldgit said:
    In the Valley cafe now, never seen it so empty an hour before ko
    Just parked in penhall road,literally about 15 cars down here,very quiet.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,946
    I think the crowd will be very low today. What with the rail issues, current atmosphere within the club etc it isnt really a game for a big crowd
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,238
    Lincsaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    he's a 'devil' we are getting to know .. I really hope he improves his knowledge of English football and becomes less averse to spending his money on good players, IF he doesn't he (and we) will be stuck in the lower divisions for a long time .. all the best very Sandy, just get more 'with it'
    Ever the optimist mate.
    mmmm .. not always .. anyway how are you Gary ? .. in Brazil yet ?
    Alright mate, not yet.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,884
    Is the stream available in the U.K. today?
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,384
    Callumcafc said:
    Is the stream available in the U.K. today?
    No
    need to be ‘overseas’ 😉

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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,384
    Any sightings of tight Tom yet?
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    AndyG said:
    I think the crowd will be very low today. What with the rail issues, current atmosphere within the club etc it isnt really a game for a big crowd

    Might break a record for all time lowest home league game attendance at the valley.

    Small local businesses may heavily rely on those 23 days a year where there will be crowds of people present. 

    I bet sandguard will blame it on covid peak residue 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,160
    Wasn’t covid up 12% this week to be fair…
  • DiscoCAFC
    DiscoCAFC Posts: 1,762
    cafc_4life said:
    Lordflashheart said:


    On house outside Valley today !!
    We have a strange fan base at times 
    Hello Sandgaard
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,802
    Don’t think I’ve seen The Valley so empty for a Saturday game since our return.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,939
    guinnessaddick said:
    Don’t think I’ve seen The Valley so empty for a Saturday game since our return.
    How many do you reckon?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,782
    If he has a couple of minutes. He can count them.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,802
    Off_it said:
    guinnessaddick said:
    Don’t think I’ve seen The Valley so empty for a Saturday game since our return.
    How many do you reckon?
    I would guess under 8k.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Oi Thomas!!

    You don't know what ya doing
    You don't know what ya doing
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    When is personal responsibility going to occur?

    When will sandguard openly admitt the stats don't lie and he's done a shit job?

    He thinks the club has been run really badly over the last 20 years....the worst part is now

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