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Sandgaard Out! - massive secondhand embarrassment warning for p7.

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,642
    There is a clue in the word 'supporter' as to the role we are called to play in the club. I suggest those that DON'T support the owner, the players, should call themselves 'destroyers' and find a suitable echo chamber that relates to the role they are called to. For the remainder - let us support the club. In all things. Can you imagine if in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's etc every owner was cursed by his own supporters with every bad run of results and they demanded his head. Shankly, Ramsay, Lyall, Nicholson, Clough, Wenger - none of them would have got to the end of their first season!

     It's ridiculous. TS has made decisions that have largely been correct from what I can see.

    Buying a club that is about to become extinct - Good decision.
    Adkins - rubbish - sacked - good decision.
    JJ - average at best - sacked - good decision.
    Garner - 5 wins in 20 - rightly sacked.  

    Washington released - wrong decision.
    Waiting until 11.59pm on transfer deadline day to balls up the signing of his replacement - wrong decision.

    Weighing all things up - I don't think TS is the main problem here. Extremely demanding 'supporters' living in fantasy world could be! Living in past glories could be! We are a third division team with no sense of itself and constantly turning over the playing staff or changing loans. 

    I wish BG every success in the future. Like JJ I think he would make a good assistant but not manager. 



    You are joking right..?

    I'll wait until I've read the remaining 5 pages before I reply  because I'm sure 99% of posters reading this thread would have already explained why you are wrong and/or deluded. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,851
    There is a clue in the word 'supporter' as to the role we are called to play in the club. I suggest those that DON'T support the owner, the players, should call themselves 'destroyers' and find a suitable echo chamber that relates to the role they are called to. For the remainder - let us support the club. In all things. Can you imagine if in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's etc every owner was cursed by his own supporters with every bad run of results and they demanded his head. Shankly, Ramsay, Lyall, Nicholson, Clough, Wenger - none of them would have got to the end of their first season!

     It's ridiculous. TS has made decisions that have largely been correct from what I can see.

    Buying a club that is about to become extinct - Good decision.
    Adkins - rubbish - sacked - good decision.
    JJ - average at best - sacked - good decision.
    Garner - 5 wins in 20 - rightly sacked.  

    Washington released - wrong decision.
    Waiting until 11.59pm on transfer deadline day to balls up the signing of his replacement - wrong decision.

    Weighing all things up - I don't think TS is the main problem here. Extremely demanding 'supporters' living in fantasy world could be! Living in past glories could be! We are a third division team with no sense of itself and constantly turning over the playing staff or changing loans. 

    I wish BG every success in the future. Like JJ I think he would make a good assistant but not manager. 



    You are joking right..?

    I'll wait until I've read the remaining 5 pages before I reply  because I'm sure 99% of posters reading this thread would have already explained why you are wrong and/or deluded. 

    Yes, VoT is in a minority of one and his post is somewhat typical of his contribution to CL.
  • chev
    chev Posts: 242
    Rumours on other site rd, ts have accepted a big from a group to buy club waiting on efl to approve takeover 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,596
    T_C_E said:
    We’ve finally got media attention, yes Ben is a fan but I’ll take any help from any agency we can get. 

    Well done Trust, a year ago I hoped all this was behind us ........ god why are we so unlucky.......
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,642
    Out of interest, what do you think would have happened if TS hadn't have bought us in September 2020. Everyone says he was our saviour & rightly thank him for it, but say he didnt buy us or the court case went against him & ESI were still the owners 2 years ago. 

    Personally I don't think ESI mk 2 would have ended up as owners. I'm pretty sure the EFL would have blocked Farnell as not being able to pass the "fit & proper" test and Southall was on his last legs anyway, ownership wise. 

    Would it have been Administration ?  Elliott with a mystery backer (Farnell & Co) ? Or would somebody else have stepped in  ?

    My money is on Administration.....not immediately, but sometime into the New Year after limping along for a few months with funds dwindling & players not getting paid.  
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,421
    Out of interest, what do you think would have happened if TS hadn't have bought us in September 2020. Everyone says he was our saviour & rightly thank him for it, but say he didnt buy us or the court case went against him & ESI were still the owners 2 years ago. 

    Personally I don't think ESI mk 2 would have ended up as owners. I'm pretty sure the EFL would have blocked Farnell as not being able to pass the "fit & proper" test and Southall was on his last legs anyway, ownership wise. 

    Would it have been Administration ?  Elliott with a mystery backer (Farnell & Co) ? Or would somebody else have stepped in  ?

    My money is on Administration.....not immediately, but sometime into the New Year after limping along for a few months with funds dwindling & players not getting paid.  
    I think they were going to flip us to who knows, but it was never the intention to own us. 
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    Out of interest, what do you think would have happened if TS hadn't have bought us in September 2020. Everyone says he was our saviour & rightly thank him for it, but say he didnt buy us or the court case went against him & ESI were still the owners 2 years ago. 

    Personally I don't think ESI mk 2 would have ended up as owners. I'm pretty sure the EFL would have blocked Farnell as not being able to pass the "fit & proper" test and Southall was on his last legs anyway, ownership wise. 

    Would it have been Administration ?  Elliott with a mystery backer (Farnell & Co) ? Or would somebody else have stepped in  ?

    My money is on Administration.....not immediately, but sometime into the New Year after limping along for a few months with funds dwindling & players not getting paid.  
    I think Andrew Barclay and Varney were very much still in the running but backed down along with other consortiums at the time because they thought it was in clubs best interest with vultures still very much circling  and court case. I’m not saying had TS not got us we there wasn’t a change we could have completely folded but I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that was case
  • Out of interest, what do you think would have happened if TS hadn't have bought us in September 2020. Everyone says he was our saviour & rightly thank him for it, but say he didnt buy us or the court case went against him & ESI were still the owners 2 years ago. 

    Personally I don't think ESI mk 2 would have ended up as owners. I'm pretty sure the EFL would have blocked Farnell as not being able to pass the "fit & proper" test and Southall was on his last legs anyway, ownership wise. 

    Would it have been Administration ?  Elliott with a mystery backer (Farnell & Co) ? Or would somebody else have stepped in  ?

    My money is on Administration.....not immediately, but sometime into the New Year after limping along for a few months with funds dwindling & players not getting paid.  
    I don’t know but the EFL hardly stopped Farnell destroying Bury. 
  • Danepak
    Danepak Posts: 1,630
    mascot88 said:
    I hate the guy - king of false promises 

    I'm embarrassed to have grown up in the same area as him (Odense)

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Out of interest, what do you think would have happened if TS hadn't have bought us in September 2020. Everyone says he was our saviour & rightly thank him for it, but say he didnt buy us or the court case went against him & ESI were still the owners 2 years ago. 

    Personally I don't think ESI mk 2 would have ended up as owners. I'm pretty sure the EFL would have blocked Farnell as not being able to pass the "fit & proper" test and Southall was on his last legs anyway, ownership wise. 

    Would it have been Administration ?  Elliott with a mystery backer (Farnell & Co) ? Or would somebody else have stepped in  ?

    My money is on Administration.....not immediately, but sometime into the New Year after limping along for a few months with funds dwindling & players not getting paid.  
    Roland would have taken it back due to the 50 million, or first instalment of, not being paid and he would have given it to someone else.  Administration costs him money.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited December 2022
    Out of interest, what do you think would have happened if TS hadn't have bought us in September 2020. Everyone says he was our saviour & rightly thank him for it, but say he didnt buy us or the court case went against him & ESI were still the owners 2 years ago. 

    Personally I don't think ESI mk 2 would have ended up as owners. I'm pretty sure the EFL would have blocked Farnell as not being able to pass the "fit & proper" test and Southall was on his last legs anyway, ownership wise. 

    Would it have been Administration ?  Elliott with a mystery backer (Farnell & Co) ? Or would somebody else have stepped in  ?

    My money is on Administration.....not immediately, but sometime into the New Year after limping along for a few months with funds dwindling & players not getting paid.  
    I don’t know but the EFL hardly stopped Farnell destroying Bury. 
    But he never owned, nor claimed to own it.

    Would put the EFL in a very sticky wicket if they band anyone associated with football employing him if he is still a practicing solicitor.
  • BBC (during their Gillingham coverage) have just mentioned our displeasure at the ownership issues after posting the highlights from our game yesterday
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    The diligence is due …….
  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    edited December 2022
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,589
    I very nearly went to Stockport yesterday. It’s about an hour from where I live but decided against having to make the return journey across the pennines late at night in freezing conditions. Never have I ever been as grateful for sub zero temperatures. Quite how this club we support manages to keep finding new ways to plumb the depths is a mystery. I suppose the lack of any immediate threat of the club disappearing is the only positive I can currently think of. Everything else stinks to high heaven. I couldn’t make much sense of last nights team selection and am now genuinely worried that we’re going to get relegated. I’ve no idea if Sandgaard is going to sell or how close any sale might be but the club I support is dying on its arse in full view of everyone and it hurts to see it. I feel no connection to any of the players and have never been so apathetic towards Charlton. Not even sure if I can get the fire in my belly back. 
    I’m in Lytham St Anne’s for the weekend, less than 30 mins to Morecambe , am I going? Not likely.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,150
    I very nearly went to Stockport yesterday. It’s about an hour from where I live but decided against having to make the return journey across the pennines late at night in freezing conditions. Never have I ever been as grateful for sub zero temperatures. Quite how this club we support manages to keep finding new ways to plumb the depths is a mystery. I suppose the lack of any immediate threat of the club disappearing is the only positive I can currently think of. Everything else stinks to high heaven. I couldn’t make much sense of last nights team selection and am now genuinely worried that we’re going to get relegated. I’ve no idea if Sandgaard is going to sell or how close any sale might be but the club I support is dying on its arse in full view of everyone and it hurts to see it. I feel no connection to any of the players and have never been so apathetic towards Charlton. Not even sure if I can get the fire in my belly back. 
    I’m in Lytham St Anne’s for the weekend, less than 30 mins to Morecambe , am I going? Not likely.
    Dont forget to go to the taps pub mate in the town centre.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,589
    I very nearly went to Stockport yesterday. It’s about an hour from where I live but decided against having to make the return journey across the pennines late at night in freezing conditions. Never have I ever been as grateful for sub zero temperatures. Quite how this club we support manages to keep finding new ways to plumb the depths is a mystery. I suppose the lack of any immediate threat of the club disappearing is the only positive I can currently think of. Everything else stinks to high heaven. I couldn’t make much sense of last nights team selection and am now genuinely worried that we’re going to get relegated. I’ve no idea if Sandgaard is going to sell or how close any sale might be but the club I support is dying on its arse in full view of everyone and it hurts to see it. I feel no connection to any of the players and have never been so apathetic towards Charlton. Not even sure if I can get the fire in my belly back. 
    I’m in Lytham St Anne’s for the weekend, less than 30 mins to Morecambe , am I going? Not likely.
    Dont forget to go to the taps pub mate in the town centre.
    I’ll keep an eye out for it.

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  • Ah the infamous "porno soundtrack" photoshoot
  • Honestly play that loudly without headphones on a train and everyone will think you're watching an 80s German x rated clip
  • Intoxicated by his own pomposity.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    I'd not seen that clip before. I certainly don't want to see it again. Good grief!
  • Looks like he's forgotten how his legs work to begin with, then suddenly remembers he has them
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,971
    edited December 2022
    We should count ourselves lucky his jeans stayed zipped up. This whole ownership has been an exercise in willy-waving on his part.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,309
    I’ve watched that about 30 times now, feel strange.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,300
    Oh my good lord. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️