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Holden sacked?! (Ed. Yes - Confirmed)

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  • Never have I've been so pleased not to have bought a Season Ticket. 

    Joke of a club.
    You getting a half season ticket when Sir Chrissy Powell has us in the top 6 at Christmas Golfie?
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited August 2023
    Thank gawd I didn't buy a season ticket after all, we are a total embarrassment made even worse by Mrs Halix's team sitting on top of the prem.

    I make that 17 managers since Curbs left.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Chunes said:
    Like with Adkins, then Jackson, then Garner, now Holden. 

    Shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic and pretending the squad is better than it actually is, is why we're in the same situation every single season. 
    100%. Whoever plays for us is almost automatically one of the best in the league. Same every year. 
    We absolutely over rate and over slate players on here, but for me it was listening to the Not Top 20 podcast a couple of weeks ago where they were glowing about adding Isted, Edun, Taylor, Camara, and May. You need only look at how the four outfield players have been deployed to see that we haven't played to any of their strengths most of the time.

    We may be a basket case of a club, but I genuinely think if you went around the league most people in the game would say we made good additions this summer. 
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,408
    Methen knows Johnson you say?

    Lee Johnson TESTS Jimmy Bullards TECHNICAL ability   You Know The  Drill LIVE - YouTube
    That makes me Sick,
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,406
    Not sure this is where the blame lies. Or that new management will do any better without decent investment. But I guess the new owners have to flex their collective muscles ...
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,848
    Southbank said:
    In Pearce we believe
    Pearce out. Doesnt play the formation I like, which always gets me wins on FIFA (easy level) every time.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    In Pearce we believe
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,711
    Off_it said:
    Brownie12 said:
    Right decision.
    The squad may not be the finished article but we could have a £30m squad and still be shite with the dismal coaching and tactical naivety Holden’s responsible for.
    is it? We will just appoint another manager, give him a long contract and then sack him. Lack of investment on the playing side is the problem. 
    You can only coach the players you have - we have a squad full of shit ones…again. 
    The squad may not be good enough yet for a promotion challenge but it’s not “full of shit ones”. That’s just cobblers. 
    Being silent on the touchline when Asiimwe was the last man, leaving us ludicrously exposed to the counter for their winner yesterday, was gross professional incompetence on Holden’s part and, in the circumstances of desperately needing a point, unforgivable. Curbs would have been going ballistic, whistling and barking at least at some of the players who’d gone forward to assume defensive positions.
    Of course they need to appoint the right manager now but Holden is patently not a good enough coach and us tactically naive. He’d had his chance.

    "Gross professional incompetence"? Behave. I had you down as intelligent, but to use that line in this context proves me wrong. 
    The feeling’s entirely mutual.
    Don’t know what you’d expect your manager to do if you were an owner but I’d damn well expect him to avoid gifting crucial goals in that manner.
    Gross professional incompetence indeed.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    a good appointment makes you competitive I reckon, but I doubt we’ll get one.

    also something went wrong pre season didn’t it, supposedly going to be super fit, and we look physically fucked after 75 minutes 
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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,448
    edited August 2023
    SDAddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Like with Adkins, then Jackson, then Garner, now Holden. 

    Shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic and pretending the squad is better than it actually is, is why we're in the same situation every single season. 
    100%. Whoever plays for us is almost automatically one of the best in the league. Same every year. 
    We absolutely over rate and over slate players on here, but for me it was listening to the Not Top 20 podcast a couple of weeks ago where they were glowing about adding Isted, Edun, Taylor, Camara, and May. You need only look at how the four outfield players have been deployed to see that we haven't played to any of their strengths most of the time.

    We may be a basket case of a club, but I genuinely think if you went around the league most people in the game would say we made good additions this summer. 
    We've released/sold 14 first-team players since January. 

    We've signed 8 players. 

    Make it make sense. We are a basket case relying on kids. 
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,756
    RC_CAFC said:
    Surely it should have been Hayes supported by Pearce.
    That decision has been made to keep the fans on side . 
    Hayes did a cracking little job as caretaker last year, common sense would have kept me onside far more.
  • bellz2002
    bellz2002 Posts: 1,361
    Can't say I'm surprised but I am by the timing. I thought he would have had Saturday's game v Fleetwood at least. 

    Oh well. As Jay-Z once said, "On to the next one". 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Wilder more jones or Warburton for me. 
    Warburton ain’t leaving West Ham for this circus. 
  • Yes:
    Powell
    Jones
    Wilder
    Moore

    No:
    Bowyer
    Johnson
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    Never have I've been so pleased not to have bought a Season Ticket. 

    Joke of a club.
    You see Golfie, I agree with a lot of your criticisms of the club. Problem is, people like us only ever have one club. If we don't support them with our money, in the end it is only ourselves we are harming. The owners will change, the players will change. Only the supporters stay the same. We have to keep paying, or we are no longer supporters.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Well we aren't getting any more players in now.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,930
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    Wilder more jones or Warburton for me. 
    Warburton ain’t leaving West Ham for this circus. 
    I thought he left West Ham at the end of last season. Not saying he would join us though.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,274
    I thought it was really strange yesterday that there was no pre match interview with DH. Could it be that he already knew?
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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    How many manager now since Curbs? 

    Holden seemed a good bloke so wish him well for the future and I'm sure he'll succeed somewhere 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Yes:
    Powell
    Jones
    Wilder
    Moore

    No:
    Bowyer
    Johnson
    Bowyer over Powell for me .  Jones and Wilder wouldn’t touch it, neither would Bowyer .I doubt Moore would either .  
  • Lee Johnson nailed on…
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Yes:
    Powell
    Jones
    Wilder
    Moore

    No:
    Bowyer
    Johnson

    Sums it up perfectly for me.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited August 2023
    How many manager now since Curbs? 

    Holden seemed a good bloke so wish him well for the future and I'm sure he'll succeed somewhere 
    17 (+ 5 caretakers).

    Curbishley appointed 32 years ago
    so thats 15 years with one manager then
    followed by 17 years = 17 managers (wonder why we been so unsuccessful recently?  
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,527
    edited August 2023


    16/1..Yer man...🙄
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Brownie12 said:
    Right decision.
    The squad may not be the finished article but we could have a £30m squad and still be shite with the dismal coaching and tactical naivety Holden’s responsible for.
    is it? We will just appoint another manager, give him a long contract and then sack him. Lack of investment on the playing side is the problem. 
    You can only coach the players you have - we have a squad full of shit ones…again. 
    The squad may not be good enough yet for a promotion challenge but it’s not “full of shit ones”. That’s just cobblers. 
    Being silent on the touchline when Asiimwe was the last man, leaving us ludicrously exposed to the counter for their winner yesterday, was gross professional incompetence on Holden’s part and, in the circumstances of desperately needing a point, unforgivable. Curbs would have been going ballistic, whistling and barking at least at some of the players who’d gone forward to assume defensive positions.
    Of course they need to appoint the right manager now but Holden is patently not a good enough coach and us tactically naive. He’d had his chance.

    I agree entirely, that was it for me, considering it was the 3rd consecutive game making similar mistakes.
    You wouldn't expect a pub team or kid's team to be that reckless & naive.
    We may have a disappointing squad thus far, but it's still strong enough to have won all the home games and picked up a point away maybe.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,291
    PWR. Oh for fuck's sake, here we go again.