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Eoghan O’Connell signs for Wrexham
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I don't think the Wrexham story will have the fairytale ending that Hollywood expects
the Wrexham model has been built on buying average at best league 1 players.
lee
o connell
mullin
the Wimbledon guy
the guy from Cheltenham
A team built around those players in league 1 isn't good in my view. Apart from lee, who has played for a top half league 1 team? For Wrexham to challenge at league 1 level, they will need to pay championship wages. If they do have to improve their squad in league 1, how do they move on the players not good enough for league 1 but are on good league 1 money.
if Wrexham peak at league 1 and finish say 16th, will the Netflix viewers get bored? Hollywood has a short life cycle and I can't see Netflix being interested in renewing for another season once on the pitch progress stalls.
the owners have less wealth than sandgaard, not sure how they can finance it much further especially if Hollywood moves on to the next good story2 -
I'm guessing it won't be that difficult for them to get investment but I agree, the amount of money to get up the leagues rises exponentiallyTodds_right_hook said:I don't think the Wrexham story will have the fairytale ending that Hollywood expects
the Wrexham model has been built on buying average at best league 1 players.
lee
o connell
mullin
the Wimbledon guy
the guy from Cheltenham
A team built around those players in league 1 isn't good in my view. Apart from lee, who has played for a top half league 1 team? For Wrexham to challenge at league 1 level, they will need to pay championship wages. If they do have to improve their squad in league 1, how do they move on the players not good enough for league 1 but are on good league 1 money.
if Wrexham peak at league 1 and finish say 16th, will the Netflix viewers get bored? Hollywood has a short life cycle and I can't see Netflix being interested in renewing for another season once on the pitch progress stalls.
the owners have less wealth than sandgaard, not sure how they can finance it much further especially if Hollywood moves on to the next good story0 -
Did Sandgaard have more wealth ? Perhaps on paper taking into consideration his shares and property etc but disposable income in the way an actor has ? Now I’ve no idea if RR has much or any of his wealth tied up in investments other than Wrexham but I’d imagine that he and his partner have a fair amount more than TS that they can afford to spunk on their jollies. Maybe.2
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It's a fairytale already for the fans isn't it? Was it 15 years since they'd even been in the football league? Now they're 3rd in League Two and looking at successive promotions. Getting to League One would be a wonder and just staying there even better. If the owners decide to depart at L1/L2 that's still better than the club has done in a decade and a half.Todds_right_hook said:I don't think the Wrexham story will have the fairytale ending that Hollywood expects
the Wrexham model has been built on buying average at best league 1 players.
lee
o connell
mullin
the Wimbledon guy
the guy from Cheltenham
A team built around those players in league 1 isn't good in my view. Apart from lee, who has played for a top half league 1 team? For Wrexham to challenge at league 1 level, they will need to pay championship wages. If they do have to improve their squad in league 1, how do they move on the players not good enough for league 1 but are on good league 1 money.
if Wrexham peak at league 1 and finish say 16th, will the Netflix viewers get bored? Hollywood has a short life cycle and I can't see Netflix being interested in renewing for another season once on the pitch progress stalls.
the owners have less wealth than sandgaard, not sure how they can finance it much further especially if Hollywood moves on to the next good story
ed - Also if they do need more investment, I'd imagine they won't have a hard time finding it.6 -
Given RR's other business projects I'd say he's probably on a similar level of wealth to Sandgaard. McElheney will have substantially less. The upside for them though is that they can attract big name sponsors (TikTok, United airlines etc.) and they seem to understand that their money will only take them so far. I also think most longstanding Wrexham fans would be fairly happy with them being a L1 team as that's probably around about their natural level if they had stable investment. I also think it will be incredibly easy for them to bring in other investors if they wanted to.ShootersHillGuru said:Did Sandgaard have more wealth ? Perhaps on paper taking into consideration his shares and property etc but disposable income in the way an actor has ? Now I’ve no idea if RR has much or any of his wealth tied up in investments other than Wrexham but I’d imagine that he and his partner have a fair amount more than TS that they can afford to spunk on their jollies. Maybe.1 -
Because of the hype the show has got with the Yanks, I imagine they'll bring a serious investor in the near future who will come in and bankroll them up the leagues.3
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Google was my source. Rr has a couple of hundred mil in the bank, the other guy has £40m.ShootersHillGuru said:Did Sandgaard have more wealth ? Perhaps on paper taking into consideration his shares and property etc but disposable income in the way an actor has ? Now I’ve no idea if RR has much or any of his wealth tied up in investments other than Wrexham but I’d imagine that he and his partner have a fair amount more than TS that they can afford to spunk on their jollies. Maybe.0 -
Yeah he fucking was. Seemed a fucking good coach with limited fucking resources.wmcf123 said:
I always thought Parkinson was with us at the wrong time . Always seemed a good coach to me with really limited resources.SamB09 said:
What do you mean his ceiling level? He might do well with a good squad in championship/ prem.ForeverAddickted said:League One is where they may start to struggle as Parky comes across with that as his ceiling level
However he still has two promotions from this level, and has got promoted from League Two - So provided Rob and Ryan are patient (which they have been), they've got the foundations in place with the coaching staff to go a long way.
Just hope none of our playing targets, are their targets in the summer... as we dont stand a chance of competing with them.0 -
Parkinson gave us Northwich Victoria, none of his positive personal qualities can compensate for that.2
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This might not be a very reliable source but I'd be surprised if Disney hadn't financed most or all of the Wrexham spending so far:
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Wouldn't be surprised to see additional investors join Rob and Ryan fairly soon if they're serious about being a force in League 1. Think it's still a pretty easy sell to American investors both sports and celebrity based.
I do however agree with the points above about their playing squad perhaps needing a fair chunk of investment for L1. The likes of Lee,Mullin,EO'C, Ollie Palmer, Andy Cannon and James McLean are decent ish for League 1 but not enough to compete in the top half of this division.1 -
Did the feel good Wrexham story help chief salesman Methven blag the football story to our yank investors owners who will haemorrhage good money on us0
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Seems to be in thing in sports at the moment for sportspeople to be taking minority ownership stakes in other sports - Patrick Mahomes, Anthony Joshua and Rory McIlroy have taken stakes in Alpine F1 Team (ironically joining a group with Rob and Ryan) , JJ Watt seems to be promoting Burnley quite a lot on social media now he's got a stake there . Jordan Speith and Justin Thomas are minority owners at Leeds as part of the 49ers takeover.0
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I wonder how long the fashion will last, when they realise they're losing lots of money, and not getting any success in return.MarcusH26 said:Seems to be in thing in sports at the moment for sportspeople to be taking minority ownership stakes in other sports - Patrick Mahomes, Anthony Joshua and Rory McIlroy have taken stakes in Alpine F1 Team (ironically joining a group with Rob and Ryan) , JJ Watt seems to be promoting Burnley quite a lot on social media now he's got a stake there . Jordan Speith and Justin Thomas are minority owners at Leeds as part of the 49ers takeover.0 -
I think a lot of those small stakes that famous people have are basically gifted in exchange for publicity etc, so their financial commitments will be very low.killerandflash said:
I wonder how long the fashion will last, when they realise they're losing lots of money, and not getting any success in return.MarcusH26 said:Seems to be in thing in sports at the moment for sportspeople to be taking minority ownership stakes in other sports - Patrick Mahomes, Anthony Joshua and Rory McIlroy have taken stakes in Alpine F1 Team (ironically joining a group with Rob and Ryan) , JJ Watt seems to be promoting Burnley quite a lot on social media now he's got a stake there . Jordan Speith and Justin Thomas are minority owners at Leeds as part of the 49ers takeover.1 -
North Lower Neil said:
I think a lot of those small stakes that famous people have are basically gifted in exchange for publicity etc, so their financial commitments will be very low.killerandflash said:
I wonder how long the fashion will last, when they realise they're losing lots of money, and not getting any success in return.MarcusH26 said:Seems to be in thing in sports at the moment for sportspeople to be taking minority ownership stakes in other sports - Patrick Mahomes, Anthony Joshua and Rory McIlroy have taken stakes in Alpine F1 Team (ironically joining a group with Rob and Ryan) , JJ Watt seems to be promoting Burnley quite a lot on social media now he's got a stake there . Jordan Speith and Justin Thomas are minority owners at Leeds as part of the 49ers takeover.
Yeah i would be surprised if some of them are even 5% , it will be all about publicity. Forgot of course Tom Brady at Birmingham.0 -
I was surprised when I saw "Parky in action" at Wrexham.JaShea99 said:
Yeah he fucking was. Seemed a fucking good coach with limited fucking resources.wmcf123 said:
I always thought Parkinson was with us at the wrong time . Always seemed a good coach to me with really limited resources.SamB09 said:
What do you mean his ceiling level? He might do well with a good squad in championship/ prem.ForeverAddickted said:League One is where they may start to struggle as Parky comes across with that as his ceiling level
However he still has two promotions from this level, and has got promoted from League Two - So provided Rob and Ryan are patient (which they have been), they've got the foundations in place with the coaching staff to go a long way.
Just hope none of our playing targets, are their targets in the summer... as we dont stand a chance of competing with them.
I always had him down as a gentle thoughtful type.
i was taken aback when his pep talk included fuck every other word like some brain dead moron.0 -
I'm team Plum on this, I think he was and remains a very limited coach. He's certainly better than when we had him 15 years ago, but his teams were awful to watch regardless of the resources he did (or didn't) have.seth plum said:Parkinson gave us Northwich Victoria, none of his positive personal qualities can compensate for that.2 -
didn't he pay for a loan player out of his own money during his time with us or is that an urban myth?
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Gary Borrowdale if I remember rightly.Manic_mania said:didn't he pay for a loan player out of his own money during his time with us or is that an urban myth?2 -
Money very well spent.North Lower Neil said:
Gary Borrowdale if I remember rightly.Manic_mania said:didn't he pay for a loan player out of his own money during his time with us or is that an urban myth?
Though in all seriousness fair play to him for doing it.4 -
God that's one for the "forgot he played for us" thread if ever I saw itNorth Lower Neil said:
Gary Borrowdale if I remember rightly.Manic_mania said:didn't he pay for a loan player out of his own money during his time with us or is that an urban myth?0 -
Should never have been made permanent following his caretaker performance.Nice guy though2
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i don't think its a coincidence or accident that he keeps coming back to us looking for players he obviously follows us more than most0
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I've heard this before but is it true? Is it even allowed? How would it work in practicality? Would he ask for the players bank details and set up a payment from his account?Manic_mania said:didn't he pay for a loan player out of his own money during his time with us or is that an urban myth?
Nice bloke, poor manager, should never have got the job permanently0 -
i think the rules in the EFL have probably changed since it happened. I think it did happen on this occasion though.LargeAddick said:
I've heard this before but is it true? Is it even allowed? How would it work in practicality? Would he ask for the players bank details and set up a payment from his account?Manic_mania said:didn't he pay for a loan player out of his own money during his time with us or is that an urban myth?
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I'm not sure that's fair.LargeAddick said:
I've heard this before but is it true? Is it even allowed? How would it work in practicality? Would he ask for the players bank details and set up a payment from his account?Manic_mania said:didn't he pay for a loan player out of his own money during his time with us or is that an urban myth?
Nice bloke, poor manager, should never have got the job permanently
Apart from his overall record (933 games and counting) while it was bizarre he got the Charlton job, he did a pretty good job in L1. Playoffs the 1st season, and did a better job with a poor squad the following season than Chris Powell did (when Powell also had BWP up front).0 -
Did a worse job than Pardew in our most pathetic of relegation seasons and he had the added benefit of knowing the players he was dealing with and not coming in cold .
chose Elliot over Randolph in goal and was lucky that Elliot got injured against the Gills, I think, which gave Randy back the shirt and turned our form around for the run in .
think he helped with Borrowdale but got paid back .
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Ah, the old days when we struggled to get a left back.North Lower Neil said:
Gary Borrowdale if I remember rightly.Manic_mania said:didn't he pay for a loan player out of his own money during his time with us or is that an urban myth?3
