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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Derby County: Saturday 3rd February 2024 | KO 15:00
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i do miss that Addicks to Victory song….golfaddick said:When Sandgaard mentioned playing in Europe was he talking about Wales ?? Wrexham & Newport next season.5 -
You're a jinx !BexhillAddick said:I am not sure how many more disappointments I can take and I am sure I am not alone. Would be nice just once in a while to feel the satisfaction of a win. I only get to a handful of away games each season at the moment but I haven't seen us win for two years! We are totally lost and I can't see us recovering, even with a new manager. Player recruitment yet again has been all wrong and the mentality of the players is shot to bits. Does anyone realistically think that when players like Taylor, Ladapo, Camara are up to match fitness they will be able to turn this around? I think not.1 -
Anybody who watched last week knew the first half line up doesn't work
So why spend a week training
Then do exactly the same thing again
Coaching at the worst level
I am just lost for words14 -
I think Nathan Jones will sort out the bleeding obvious and ensure players play in their correct positions for a start. This will help. Bakinson is very obviously not a 10 and REG is very obviously a CB or RB/RWB for starters.Other than the basics, I thought we were pretty competitive and fancy us to now get back to back victories against Reading and Lincoln. If we don’t pick up 3-4 points, we really will be in the sh*t, but I think we will be alright, when an experienced logical head puts the pieces in the right order…5
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Surely that's the idea of a hen do ?Rothko said:
Honestly, the amount of people taken in by a soft Irish accent is something else, hope none of you are off to Dublin on a hen do, you’ll be anyone’s after a coupleCroydon said:
Is there any other fanbase that gets this hard over someone speaking on camera. Fucking hellcharente addick said:Very good interview with Fleming on Charlton TV. Spot on with the problems. Really would like him to be a prominent coach under NJ.2 -
On what basis?Pavoren007 said:I think Nathan Jones will sort out the bleeding obvious and ensure players play in their correct positions for a start. This will help. Bakinson is very obviously not a 10 and REG is very obviously a CB or RB/RWB for starters.Other than the basics, I thought we were pretty competitive and fancy us to now get back to back victories against Reading and Lincoln. If we don’t pick up 3-4 points, we really will be in the sh*t, but I think we will be alright, when an experienced logical head puts the pieces in the right order…
The last 12 games?1 -
Think Fleming is being treated extremely harshly. Yeah we ain't won a game but we hadn't won 10 before he took charge. He has to pick these players up whose confidence is shot to pieces, that isnt easy. By the sound of it there were passages of play which we maybe should have nicked a goal.
Personally feel the players aren't being set up to suit there best abilities because there is no way we should be where we are on paper but we are so it is no easy job to change that.
Hopefully Jones can...
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robroy said:If anyone needs cheering up
https://x.com/dhenners101/status/1753859363981127881?s=46&t=Atud1xTTw-k0f0GLTCKuPw
Ha ha they really are a bunch of melts. That little child running down to giver it and a steward palming him away. About as menacing as a bunch of Andrex puppies.3 -
No … Rodney scored one only in the 9th minsoapboxsam said:Lewis Coaches said:
Sorry trying to cheer people up.swordfish said:
Carry on like this and we won't be imagining it!Valley11 said:Major major trouble. Massive roll of the dice on Jones. Here’s hoping he can do it. Relegation to League 1 was supposed to be a holiday where we’d batter everyone. Imagine being in division 4...
Imperative we stay up
Each transfer window must get more difficult with our reputation as career killers.
56 years ago today Peter Reeves got married.
In the morning and playing in the afternoon.
He was 18 years old and was marking Rodney Marsh that day.
.Some of Reeves team mates were hardly any older Bob Curtis 18, Dennis Booth 18,Paul Went 18 . John Stenson 19 and Bob Willis 20.
for the last 30muutes we played with 10 men and had been without our goalkeeper for most of the second half .We drew 3-3 , QPR went up and Peter Reeves, Bob Curtis and Paul Went would go on to play over 820 games between them for Charlton.
Just trying to cheer everyone and myself up.
Sorry.
Don't be sorry:
Was that the game Rodney Marsh scored a hat trick and a curtsy to the Covered end ?
"Rodney is a fairy" a different age with no social media and full on insults.
We played them in FA Cup 1970 lost 2-3 at home Rodney scored twice. But The Covered End let him have it ..Rodney is a fairy.. but what a player as was Peter Reeves.3 -
Definitely a feel of the Parkinson relegation season. A mish-mash of players, flung together with no coherent strategy. It might turn around but don't be surprised if it ends in disaster. Currently its so bad.8
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This wasn't the case. We could still be playing now and wouldn’t have scored.king addick said:Think Fleming is being treated extremely harshly. Yeah we ain't won a game but we hadn't won 10 before he took charge. He has to pick these players up whose confidence is shot to pieces, that isnt easy. By the sound of it there were passages of play which we maybe should have nicked a goal.
Personally feel the players aren't being set up to suit there best abilities because there is no way we should be where we are on paper but we are so it is no easy job to change that.
Hopefully Jones can...11 -
I note as always there is a lot of normal Charlton fan negativity and it’s not surprising, however I honestly do not think we will go down.
the way we stay up may not be pretty but I think
we will be above 18th 👍👍👍3 -
He's clearly a great keeper?follett said:The fans being on AMBs back if he doesn’t distribute within 0.05 milliseconds is frustrating, can see his confidence is low and this doesn’t help. He can sometimes be slow but people start moaning when there’s absolutely nothing on. He’s clearly a great keeper with zero confidence, hope we don’t ruin him
He stops shots.
He doesn't communicate, he's poor with crosses, he doesn't organise, he's slow, his kicking is poor.
He has no "presence".21 -
Let’s hope Isted and Watson start under Jones11
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I'm baffled why Isted didn't play today. Not because I'm writing AMB off, but because he needs time out of the firing line, to work with coaches on his deficiencies. You can see the frustration our defenders have with him and his decision making.7
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Alas not. Wrexham, Harrogate and Barrow will all go up.peterreeves said:It's time to take a deep breath and consider that with a new Manager and 16 games to go it's in our own hands.
If we go down then we deserve too...simple.
But for now we need to forget what other teams are doing and just concentrate on us.
Taylor and Camera might make a difference coming bsck, gawd knows they couldn't make it worse than it is although it's not an impossibility.
Hopefully Nathan Jones can change the formation as 352 is clearly not working.
I am a little surprised if this fella takes us on but perhaps he needs to rebuild himself after the car crash ping pong table calamities at Southampton.
Let's expect the worse but hope for the best.
However, if there's any blame being slung for this season of f*ck ups then the Owners should put their hands up and admit it was their fault entirely.
They believed people's bullshit and let them loose on bringing in cheap poor unfit players but even worse they bring n a Manager that every Charlton fan knew was rubbish and yet they let it continue. He should have gone after the Burton home game but no... they let him carry on for another 7 bloody games and one sodding point!
Still, on the bright side I'd imagine a lot of fans will complete their 92 grounds if we how down...1 -
At what point is he going to hold his hands up like he promised ?DOUCHER said:If the 2 players we’ve just signed to play wing back are no good and if chucks doesn’t come back and stay fit, I think we are in serious danger of going down - Coventry is the only signing Scott has made to date that is any good - Scott has been an absolute disaster
Charlatans the lot of them.5 -
I’ll have some of what your smoking.Pavoren007 said:I think Nathan Jones will sort out the bleeding obvious and ensure players play in their correct positions for a start. This will help. Bakinson is very obviously not a 10 and REG is very obviously a CB or RB/RWB for starters.Other than the basics, I thought we were pretty competitive and fancy us to now get back to back victories against Reading and Lincoln. If we don’t pick up 3-4 points, we really will be in the sh*t, but I think we will be alright, when an experienced logical head puts the pieces in the right order…9 -
What do you see in him to describe him as a great keeper ? He punched one today in the first half with no one near him. I swear 3k Derby fans laughed. And he failed to come for a through ball that Thomas did well to cover and then berated Maynard Brewer for (quite rightly. )follett said:The fans being on AMBs back if he doesn’t distribute within 0.05 milliseconds is frustrating, can see his confidence is low and this doesn’t help. He can sometimes be slow but people start moaning when there’s absolutely nothing on. He’s clearly a great keeper with zero confidence, hope we don’t ruin him
For anyone old enough to remember the Flumps, he resembled Pootle today with his headgear.3 -
I think the squad now has better balance for a 3-1-4-2 or 3–5-2 and if Louis Watson or Chuks or fit Fiorini can take that creative 10 slot, we will have enough in May and Ladapo to help pick the results up. I think we are entering a new dawn and perhaps am less pessimistic based on such a run of results. Reading’s defence are apparently really crap and Lincoln blow hot and cold. 🤞🤞🤞supaclive said:
On what basis?Pavoren007 said:I think Nathan Jones will sort out the bleeding obvious and ensure players play in their correct positions for a start. This will help. Bakinson is very obviously not a 10 and REG is very obviously a CB or RB/RWB for starters.Other than the basics, I thought we were pretty competitive and fancy us to now get back to back victories against Reading and Lincoln. If we don’t pick up 3-4 points, we really will be in the sh*t, but I think we will be alright, when an experienced logical head puts the pieces in the right order…
The last 12 games?2 -
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Bakinson spent a good five minutes shouting at him after that punch, and was still having a go at half time.killerandflash said:I'm baffled why Isted didn't play today. Not because I'm writing AMB off, but because he needs time out of the firing line, to work with coaches on his deficiencies. You can see the frustration our defenders have with him and his decision making.2 -
AMB wouldn't get in to most teams in this division as a number 1. Keeper needs addressing in the summer.10
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He flaps a lot. Last week he dropped an easy catch and conceded a corner. This week he dropped another simple catch, there was the ridiculous punch when under no pressure, and of course he got injured when trying some weird low punch.Covered End said:
He's clearly a great keeper?follett said:The fans being on AMBs back if he doesn’t distribute within 0.05 milliseconds is frustrating, can see his confidence is low and this doesn’t help. He can sometimes be slow but people start moaning when there’s absolutely nothing on. He’s clearly a great keeper with zero confidence, hope we don’t ruin him
He stops shots.
He doesn't communicate, he's poor with crosses, he doesn't organise, he's slow, his kicking is poor.
He has no "presence".
I’ve never heard him call for a ball. Yes, he’s pulled off some great saves but he desperately needs some coaching around the rest of his role.4 -
100% correct. Not an ounce of creativity.Croydon said:
This wasn't the case. We could still be playing now and wouldn’t have scored.king addick said:Think Fleming is being treated extremely harshly. Yeah we ain't won a game but we hadn't won 10 before he took charge. He has to pick these players up whose confidence is shot to pieces, that isnt easy. By the sound of it there were passages of play which we maybe should have nicked a goal.
Personally feel the players aren't being set up to suit there best abilities because there is no way we should be where we are on paper but we are so it is no easy job to change that.
Hopefully Jones can...1 -
Derby best away support for some time.Pleased to see them locked out of Charlton station because of cancelled trains.2
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The Palace players finally realising that Eric Cantona had it right all along.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:robroy said:If anyone needs cheering up
https://x.com/dhenners101/status/1753859363981127881?s=46&t=Atud1xTTw-k0f0GLTCKuPw
Ha ha they really are a bunch of melts. That little child running down to giver it and a steward palming him away. About as menacing as a bunch of Andrex puppies.6 -
Don't see yet in what way he is an improvement on Dobbo. He can't tackle as well as Dobbo for example, which for a defensive mid is a bit of an issue.killerandflash said:I was slightly disappointed with Coventry today to be honest. Not as defensively tenacious as Dobson, but with the ball got into good positions but often misplaced his pass.
Hopefully it's rustiness and a lack of understanding with his teammates, which wouldn't be surprising considering the revolving door of team selection.6 -
Not concerned, a lot of flapping here.
We still have the rest of January to rectify this and get the right players in the door, for the relegation fight we are in.
Come on you Reds!!11 -
Make no bones about it, were in a relegation battle, anyone who thinks we aren't or were too big to go down, look at some of the teams below us, the likes of Oldham for example who have been mistreated and have suffered the consequences. We aren't any different0
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Did he ever score a hat trick against us ? I remember the curtsy not so sure on a hat trick ?soapboxsam said:Lewis Coaches said:
Sorry trying to cheer people up.swordfish said:
Carry on like this and we won't be imagining it!Valley11 said:Major major trouble. Massive roll of the dice on Jones. Here’s hoping he can do it. Relegation to League 1 was supposed to be a holiday where we’d batter everyone. Imagine being in division 4...
Imperative we stay up
Each transfer window must get more difficult with our reputation as career killers.
56 years ago today Peter Reeves got married.
In the morning and playing in the afternoon.
He was 18 years old and was marking Rodney Marsh that day.
.Some of Reeves team mates were hardly any older Bob Curtis 18, Dennis Booth 18,Paul Went 18 . John Stenson 19 and Bob Willis 20.
for the last 30muutes we played with 10 men and had been without our goalkeeper for most of the second half .We drew 3-3 , QPR went up and Peter Reeves, Bob Curtis and Paul Went would go on to play over 820 games between them for Charlton.
Just trying to cheer everyone and myself up.
Sorry.
Don't be sorry:
Was that the game Rodney Marsh scored a hat trick and a curtsy to the Covered end ?
"Rodney is a fairy" a different age with no social media and full on insults.
I'm pretty sure if Peter Reeves looked in his back pocket today he'd still find a clump of blond wavy hair
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