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POST-MATCH THREAD: Reading vs Charlton Athletic: Saturday 10th February 2024 | KO 15:00

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  • Tuesday is a huge game. A must win.
    It is, but they are all big games, until we get out of trouble.
  • SID
    SID Posts: 266
    I just can’t bring myself to believe we’ll be playing in league 2 next season it’s almost beyond  comprehension. Yet when you look at what’s been going on for the last few seasons it’s a death from a thousand cuts and an inevitability that sooner or later that’s where we’ll be. Even if we do stay up what hope is there that the current crop will transform into a promotion team or that the fuckwits running the club will bring in the players we need to make us so much better than we are. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,648
    1) all but 1 of the starting 11, made their debut this season. That's not a team.

    2) we let 3 attacking midfielders go in Jan, and brought in 0. Now we just have a loanee and a youth player for attacking midfield.

    3) we have no physical presence up front. Our only hope is Chuks coming back, firing, and staying fit.

    4) we are playing a 3-5-2 with wing backs that aren't really wing backs.

    5) we've had a goalie who can't organise a defence. Now we're banking on a goalie with half a season's experience. 

    6) no clean sheets in 19

    7) no wins in 14

    8) no leaders

    How can that NOT be a relegation team.
    This. Especially points 2,3 &4.

    Read them again & again. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,206
    Jac_52 said:
    Camara looked head and shoulders above our other players. Really hope we can sign him in the summer although imagine he'll have far better suitors than us if he stays fit.

    Seen Ladapo enough now to see that he really wasn't any sort of signing we should have been making. Offers nothing we don't already have and is just another body up top with May rather than the partner he and the team desperately needs
    I agree, think Camara is a cut above in both ability and effort. Issue is he won’t be able to start for 2 or 3 games. 

    Ladapo needs a goal but don’t think we have the creativity to provide. 

    At this point it’s worth putting Kanu on the right and Campbell on the left just to give us some attacking width. That or a diamond. I think a diamond with Coventry sitting, Bakinson and Camara as the 8s and Watson as a 10 might work 
  • gmantaxi
    gmantaxi Posts: 336
    Lose on Tuesday and I think we are down ( yes I know there are 14 games left ) …. All going Bromley clap 👏🏼 your hands 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,655
    edited February 2024
    We’ve been riding our luck for a few seasons, players like Rak Saki, have papered over the cracks, but it’s quite astonishing at the rate of progress downwards this season.

    Appleton was useless, basically bringing him in, has set us on a downward trajectory, can NJ get us out of trouble, I really hope so, but he’s got a huge task on his hands.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,269
    Posted whilst in the car park waiting to get out and without reading any other posts.

    Whoever decided we need to play with wingbacks & not with wingers needs shooting. You have to ask....is your wingback a winger & therefore sometimes forges his defensive duties or a defender first and therefore nit great crossing or beating a defender. Your choice. You cant have both.....unless you millions to spend. 

    Our problem is that we have no real width. No outlet. And no creativity. 

    I fear we are getting relegated this season as I cant see where  a goal is coming from, let alone a win. 
    Thank fuck someone is saying it. They are being asked to be our attacking threat, they actually cannot cross the ball ! Edun had four attempts within three minutes to carry out that basic skill, three times it hit the first defender and the last time the ball ended up nearer me than any of our forwards. One more thing, the Lapado and Louie Watson fan clubs, WTF ! 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,493
    Isted an improvement. No other positives really from that game 
    Was he? Flapped at a cross first half. Made a spectacular looking save you’d expect him to make. Came rushing out a couple of times and nearly got in trouble. Pushed a shot right back into the danger zone. Kept kicking his clearances straight at Reading defenders. Apart from not wearing a mask I thought he was just like having AMB in goal. 
    Isted did well for his first game in ages. 
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,838
    Bloody piss poor again.

    But let’s keep the faith. It’s only the first game under Nathan Jones. Things are looking bad but we’ve got time to rally and lots of points to play for. 
  • After six decades of supporting this club have seen lots of highs and lows,
    Don't know if I got it in me to keep it up if they go into the Second Division, Never seen it so dire.
    Sangaard are must be breathing a sigh of relief he dodged a bullet.

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  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,707
    After six decades of supporting this club have seen lots of highs and lows,
    Don't know if I got it in me to keep it up if they go into the Second Division, Never seen it so dire.
    Sangaard are must be breathing a sigh of relief he dodged a bullet.
    Partly the reason we are here.
  • gmantaxi
    gmantaxi Posts: 336
    TBF we’ve been a mid table shit division 3 side for years , is division 4 gonna be any worse apart from the embarrassment of never ever been there ?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,055
    Isted an improvement. No other positives really from that game 
    Was he? Flapped at a cross first half. Made a spectacular looking save you’d expect him to make. Came rushing out a couple of times and nearly got in trouble. Pushed a shot right back into the danger zone. Kept kicking his clearances straight at Reading defenders. Apart from not wearing a mask I thought he was just like having AMB in goal. 
    Isted and AMB are both totally average. Neither will be the reason we get relegated, nether will be the reason we get promoted. 

    Awful performance all round today, in a “must not lose” we lost 2-0 and hardly registered a punch. 

    Only saving grace was the pub recommended by @Chippycafc which was a lot better than the football. 

    God knows where we go from here. 
  • Davo55 said:
    Bloody piss poor again.

    But let’s keep the faith. It’s only the first game under Nathan Jones. Things are looking bad but we’ve got time to rally and lots of points to play for. 
    Agreed. We're stuck with these players, all we can do is continue to get behind them and hope Jones can pull something out of the bag. 
  • Jones saying he’s learnt a lot today, if T.Watson starts in Tuesday then he’s learnt fuck all 
    I pray to god the main thing he's learnt is that todays formation will get us relegated.
  • Agree with Jones that he would've learnt more about this squad in those 90 minutes than he has done in a few days training.

    Expect more changes on Tuesday & Hopefully he can find a way to get them playing.  It feels like a big ask at the moment though
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,493
    gmantaxi said:
    TBF we’ve been a mid table shit division 3 side for years , is division 4 gonna be any worse apart from the embarrassment of never ever been there ?
    We'll end up being a shit mid table league 2 side. 
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,701
    After six decades of supporting this club have seen lots of highs and lows,
    Don't know if I got it in me to keep it up if they go into the Second Division, Never seen it so dire.
    Sangaard are must be breathing a sigh of relief he dodged a bullet.
    This.
  • There are technical “ experts” running the club. Let’s do the simple one- is Watson any better than Sean Clare?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited February 2024
    Bailey said:
    Posted whilst in the car park waiting to get out and without reading any other posts.

    Whoever decided we need to play with wingbacks & not with wingers needs shooting. You have to ask....is your wingback a winger & therefore sometimes forges his defensive duties or a defender first and therefore nit great crossing or beating a defender. Your choice. You cant have both.....unless you millions to spend. 

    Our problem is that we have no real width. No outlet. And no creativity. 

    I fear we are getting relegated this season as I cant see where  a goal is coming from, let alone a win. 
    Thank fuck someone is saying it. They are being asked to be our attacking threat, they actually cannot cross the ball ! Edun had four attempts within three minutes to carry out that basic skill, three times it hit the first defender and the last time the ball ended up nearer me than any of our forwards. One more thing, the Lapado and Louie Watson fan clubs, WTF ! 
    Trouble is they can’t defend properly either 😤. Drop the pair of them go to a flat back four, bring in at least Ramsay at RB move Thomas to LB with Jones & REG at CB on Tuesday.

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  • I stayed away from the match thread as I’ve been saying the same thing for 2 months, and what’s the point of repeating myself again? It’s a shit situation for all of us so me saying I told you so isn’t helping anyone. And anyway - loads of people also shared my view.

    1) I still insist the signs were there months ago.

    2) No CBT and Dobson means the ‘excitement’ of new signings was false all along. 

    3) Jones will turn out exactly as I said. He’s the wrong hire… this isn’t his fault and he could be very good in another situation. But not for what we need.

    The heart of the club is broken and a hire like NJ won’t fix that. We are crashing and needed a once in a generation special moment when hiring a manager. A chance to genuinely get the place pumping and not a load of pretend emotions.

    The infrastructure of the club and wages of new signings / Jones will simply not be sustainable in league 2.

    I will keep on saying it - this isn’t gonna end well.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    No quality on display. 
    Can’t see us staying up with that kind of performance 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,269
    RedChaser said:
    Bailey said:
    Posted whilst in the car park waiting to get out and without reading any other posts.

    Whoever decided we need to play with wingbacks & not with wingers needs shooting. You have to ask....is your wingback a winger & therefore sometimes forges his defensive duties or a defender first and therefore nit great crossing or beating a defender. Your choice. You cant have both.....unless you millions to spend. 

    Our problem is that we have no real width. No outlet. And no creativity. 

    I fear we are getting relegated this season as I cant see where  a goal is coming from, let alone a win. 
    Thank fuck someone is saying it. They are being asked to be our attacking threat, they actually cannot cross the ball ! Edun had four attempts within three minutes to carry out that basic skill, three times it hit the first defender and the last time the ball ended up nearer me than any of our forwards. One more thing, the Lapado and Louie Watson fan clubs, WTF ! 
    Trouble is they can’t defend properly either 😤. Drop the pair of them go to a flat back four, bring in at least Ramsay at RB move Thomas to LB with Jones & REG at CB on Tuesday.
    Spot on, play what you consider to be players you can rely on, that being the case get rid of these two clowns 
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,785
    Watson is just a right sided Matt Penney
  • gmantaxi
    gmantaxi Posts: 336
    Talal said:
    gmantaxi said:
    TBF we’ve been a mid table shit division 3 side for years , is division 4 gonna be any worse apart from the embarrassment of never ever been there ?
    We'll end up being a shit mid table league 2 side. 
    Not much difference tbh 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,892
    se9addick said:
    Isted an improvement. No other positives really from that game 
    Was he? Flapped at a cross first half. Made a spectacular looking save you’d expect him to make. Came rushing out a couple of times and nearly got in trouble. Pushed a shot right back into the danger zone. Kept kicking his clearances straight at Reading defenders. Apart from not wearing a mask I thought he was just like having AMB in goal. 
    Isted and AMB are both totally average. Neither will be the reason we get relegated, nether will be the reason we get promoted. 

    Awful performance all round today, in a “must not lose” we lost 2-0 and hardly registered a punch. 

    Only saving grace was the pub recommended by @Chippycafc which was a lot better than the football. 

    God knows where we go from here. 
    Back to that pub if I were you mate.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    edited February 2024
    We’ve been riding our luck for a few seasons, players like Rak Saki, have papered over the cracks, but it’s quite astonishing at the rate of progress downwards this season.

    Appleton was useless, basically bringing him in, has set us on a downward trajectory, can NJ get us out of trouble, I really hope so, but he’s got a huge task on his hands.
    The form from Appleton's first two months are what's keeping us from being rock bottom. Thankfully we had that before it all fell apart 
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,562
    I am a bloody eternal optimist, often to my detriment but I think we will get a result on Tuesday and I think we will stay up. Jones will act on what he saw today and despite how shit we have been we have the individual quality in the team to survive.
    Two things are vital for me, though.
    1. We are told the situation with Dobson.
    2. Rodwell and Scott are moved on. We don’t need them for the rest of the season and it seems that Scott in particular may be responsible for much of the negative mood around the club.

    From my pal ITK, all of your points are correct
  • Can we leave Edun and Watson in Reading? 
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,506
    edited February 2024
    Why play 3-5-2 when you don't have the players to play it? Seems particularly stupid to me.