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POST-MATCH THREAD: Reading vs Charlton Athletic: Saturday 10th February 2024 | KO 15:00
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Feel so deflated after that result and seeing the other relegation rivals pick up points. Now I'm feeling worried.0
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Any positives from today?1
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4-4-2 or 4-5-1…..we need points not entertainment…..we brought in 2 new wing backs and Jones plays Edun and T Watson over them which is worrying……SDAddick said:
I don't disagree but the problem is we have five fit senior CBs at the club, and that's after letting our seventh choice CB go to Bromley.ct_addick said:Playing 3-5-2…..surely Jones has looked at videos of our games…….we just can’t play that formation……my first doubt about the Welsh Pep…..
This team was re-re-built to play 3-5-2. We just don't have the wingbacks, creative Midfielder, or hold up player to do that.
The latter two will still be a problem with 4-4-2 diamond, and we only have one winger so 4-3-3 isn't a great Idea.1 -
If we had stuck with Dowie we wouldn’t be in this position8
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It'll take an incredible turnaround to stay up now. The supposedly transformational January signings aren't offering an upgrade. We are poor in every area and 2/3 of the players making a real contribution have been let go.
The lack of quality is everywhere but no worse than out wide - a few times today we worked the ball well to Edun who had time in the area to deliver a final ball, and four times in a row he hit the first man. Tennai on the opposite wing was hopeless and cost us the second goal. These are two really poor players and yet our main outlet in this formation. Do they have any real competition for their places?
No real bright lights in that game other than Camara, who I thought in just 15 mins shone a spotlight on how shite the rest of them really are.10 -
Campbell should be nowhere near a relegation battle….not what we need right now…..not fair on him as he is learning…..Simonsen said:
442 Campbell on the left plus three CMs. Bakinson could be a Graham Stuart type as a narrow RM. Kanu and May up top....plenty of movement. Let the full-backs concentrate on defending. It's that bad at present, the whole thing needs to be kept simple for this lot. We need to walk before we can run and a 0-0 or a 1-0 wouldn't go amiss.tangoflash said:
Although I don't disagree with your point, what formation do we have the players for?Simonsen said:Why play 3-5-2 when you don't have the players to play it? Seems particularly stupid to me.
Buggered if I can work it out. It just sums up how poor recruitment decisions have been.2 -
Selling or not fighting hard enough to keep Dobson, the club captain and battler supreme when you’re in a relegation scrap, sums it up for me
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But the intent is there1
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The meat pies aren't bad at Reading.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Any positives from today?3 -
19 matches, without a clean sheet.
1 away win in the league all season (it’s February!
Last win in the league, 28th of November.
Havent had back to back wins in the league all season.
Bring back the ‘heady days’ of midtable!
Midtable even!4 -
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At the game today it was awful terrible we have amazing support and it was wasted today
no one gave a bollocks today so sad
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I’d say Camara.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Any positives from today?
But we seem to have this thing when people come in, they look better, until they actually have to string some games together.
Thomas being proof of that today.
I would say Camara genuinely looks quality though.4 -
Long throw Thomas and Bakinson attempted to attack the ball but neither with conviction it came off Bakinson who I thought was being wrestled fell to their unmarked man, who got away from L Watson and volleyed it home.killerandflash said:Grim. Not all down to them, but T Watson and Edun were terrible today, not solid Ben Purrington types defensively, but also providing zero attacking flair.
Desperate lack of quality until Camara came on. Couldn't see very well from the away end, so who was at fault for the first goal?1 -
Relegation odds have moved from 7/1 to 11/4 today. Bizarrely that makes us only seventh favourites to go down.
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If Ladapo walks out that tunnel to start the match instead of Kanu on Tuesday night I will despair.11
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I think jones will shake it up and we willAddickNL88 said:At this point, staying up is a miracle. We have four games coming up where I can't see us getting a single point. If we do stay up Nathan Jones has performed a miracle. We were so bad today it angers me how little some of these players seem to care.
pick up points when where we aren't expected to, it's the Charlton way!
Hopefully camara back will be massive for us.4 -
Part of learning....a big part....is getting involved when the going is tough. Part of management...a big part....is helping players understand that.ct_addick said:
Campbell should be nowhere near a relegation battle….not what we need right now…..not fair on him as he is learning…..Simonsen said:
442 Campbell on the left plus three CMs. Bakinson could be a Graham Stuart type as a narrow RM. Kanu and May up top....plenty of movement. Let the full-backs concentrate on defending. It's that bad at present, the whole thing needs to be kept simple for this lot. We need to walk before we can run and a 0-0 or a 1-0 wouldn't go amiss.tangoflash said:
Although I don't disagree with your point, what formation do we have the players for?Simonsen said:Why play 3-5-2 when you don't have the players to play it? Seems particularly stupid to me.
Buggered if I can work it out. It just sums up how poor recruitment decisions have been.0 -
Yes … the performance was not bad by a long way I liked the quicker passing and the harder press ,, we was in the game but Reading have good players and lost 1 in 12 .. they got the bit of luck with the first that not happening for us the second you can’t do much about them .. but few months ago May would have hit that chance bottom corner not even thinking about it , today takes a touch and loses it … confidence that’s all it is these are the sane player that was scoring for fun few months and lost 3 in 16 …hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Any positives from today?
Jones will have learnt a lot today good and bad and you see a few changes on Tuesday …Isted was excellent and Camara what a diff he made that’s the missing link that’s been missing .. but the only players who disappointed was L Wilson have to say Alfie May and Thomas had a strange game today but the others tired and played well in large parts of the game
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Seeing some people having doubts about Jones already after having our fanbase calling him the messiah twenty four hours ago.
We are truly damaged as a fanbase.27 -
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I hope all the fans that said they were happy with the window are still happy. Now that you have actually seen these losers play, instead of reading about them on wiki how do you feel now? Scott must absolutely go.
A lot of players today were not trying. They are a gutless bunch who have no love for Charlton.
Supporters please dont indulge this team. I urge you to boo them. Dont fawn around them , like you fawned around Taylor and the previous owners. It will be embarrassing if any of you attend the poty.
Oblivion is just around the corner.1 -
That's it in a nutshell right there.SamB09 said:0 -
I feel sorry for Nathan Jones by hanging on to Appleton for too long he has an almost impossible task. Appleton should have gone 4 games before he did but the clowns upstairs didn’t have the guts and we have virtually wasted a transfer window. Lapado is an imposter. We won’t be able to keep the players on the wages they are on in League 2. It simply will cost the club financially too much.Things don’t look good.9
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But they just seem thrown together with absolutely no idea.boggzy said:Over the last two decades my god we've had some dross squads - so much shite that I can't really say if this is the worst squad or not.
But I've never seen such a disjointed rag-tag bunch of specimens - not only are the majority of them gutless and appalling - but they just seem thrown together with absolutely no idea.
And it's always a worry when a striker is made captain - a lot of the time it means there's no forthright player in defence or midfield that can take charge.
Pack of overpaid wankers - cant see a run of wins in them at all.
You have heard of the SMT think that says it all.
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Other than May have we got any key playersIndianaaddick said:
Hope you are right, Would be happy just to stay up and hopefully regroup for next season if we go down we are going to lose some key players.lancashire lad said:reckon we will survive on goal difference2 -
Ladapo must be one hell of a trainer because I can see no other reason for him continuing to be given a place in the starting eleven.5
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They’re like a new signing until we play them.FishCostaFortune said:
I’d say Camara.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Any positives from today?
But we seem to have this thing when people come in, they look better, until they actually have to string some games together.
Thomas being proof of that today.
I would say Camara genuinely looks quality though.
In fairness, Camara did show flashes today in a way none of the new signings have so far managed.0 -
Atmosphere will be toxic quickly if no fight.fenaddick said:Lincoln game is even bigger now, if they don’t show fight the atmosphere will be toxic quickly and the 3 games after are guaranteed to create 0 pointsDoubt it we have heard that threat before this season , and it hasn’t happened.0 -
It’s not even close to being his fault.Callumcafc said:Seeing some people having doubts about Jones already after having our fanbase calling him the messiah twenty four hours ago.
We are truly damaged as a fanbase.But he was never the messiah. The problems we have you could bring in Pep and it wouldn’t work.
Think back to the times when Charlton had success in your lifetime. Thats a pretty decent sample size of seasons. And look at the ingredients we had in place at the time.
This is simply not the way from top to bottom to getting this football club on the right path.1 -
I thought Roland was king of the ridiculous but selling your captain when in the middle of a relegation battle will take some beating26
