Released & Retained list 2024
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Swisdom said:Charlton made a number of contract offers to George Dobson pre and post Christmas. The midfielder has signed a pre-contract agreement with Hungarian club Fehérvár.
Am I the only one reading that and thinking - there's nothing new there that we didn't already know ergo that door is NOT completely closed. Perhaps discussions ongoing. That is far from a definitive statement imo
Edit only read the original post not the club link. Seems there's no way back then.1 -
Sage said:Goalkeepers:
Ashley Maynard-Brewer
Harry Isted
Right Backs:
Kayne Ramsay
Nathan Asiimwe
Tennai Watson
Centre Backs:
Lloyd Jones
Lucas Ness
Macaulay Gillesphey
Rarmani Edmonds-Green
Zack Mitchell
Left Backs:
Thierry Small
Central Midfielders:
Aaron Henry
Conor Coventry
Conor McGrandles
Karoy Anderson
Scott Fraser
Terry Thomas
Tayo Edun
Wingers:
Tyreece Campbell
Strikers:
Alfie May
Chuks Aneke
Daniel Kanu
Miles Leaburn
From the squad above:- I have moved Edun into midfield as this is where I believe Jones sees him as a player, not at left back.
- In bold are the players I expect to be part of the squad next season with probably 5 or 6 of them in the starting 11.
- In italic are the players I think will be assessed early in pre-season who could potentially be moved on if the opportunity arises and Jones does not think they're going to feature much. I expect at least one of them to leave.
- In strikethrough are the players I think will be sold/free to leave if the club can move them on.
- This leaves 11 players I think will definitely be here come the start of the season.
- 7 players who will have their futures assessed and allowed to leave if Jones believes that is the right decision.
- 4 players who will definitely be allowed to leave and/or be sold/let go.
- Overall, I think we could see as many as 10 players coming in.
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Bostonaddick said:I am a little surprised Tyreece is going to sign given that NJ didn’t play him too much and doesn’t seem fancy wide forwards
If your assessment is wright about how Jones sees Campbell, then why have they offered him a contract.0 -
sam3110 said:Current Squad
Central Midfielders:
Aaron Henry
Conor Coventry
Conor McGrandles
Karoy Anderson
Scott Fraser
Terry Thomas
23 players, so only 3 less than Jones' magic 26 as it stands, and he definitely wants 3 keepers.
Of the above, i expect 6 or 7 of them to be moved out minimum, either on loan or being sold, especially in central midfield and centre backs, and I expect 10 or 11 signings to then cover that and fill any gaps.1 -
LTKapal said:Sage said:Goalkeepers:
Ashley Maynard-Brewer
Harry Isted
Right Backs:
Kayne Ramsay
Nathan Asiimwe
Tennai Watson
Centre Backs:
Lloyd Jones
Lucas Ness
Macaulay Gillesphey
Rarmani Edmonds-Green
Zack Mitchell
Left Backs:
Thierry Small
Central Midfielders:
Aaron Henry
Conor Coventry
Conor McGrandles
Karoy Anderson
Scott Fraser
Terry Taylor
Tayo Edun
Wingers:
Tyreece Campbell
Strikers:
Alfie May
Chuks Aneke
Daniel Kanu
Miles Leaburn
From the squad above:- I have moved Edun into midfield as this is where I believe Jones sees him as a player, not at left back.
- In bold are the players I expect to be part of the squad next season with probably 5 or 6 of them in the starting 11.
- In italic are the players I think will be assessed early in pre-season who could potentially be moved on if the opportunity arises and Jones does not think they're going to feature much. I expect at least one of them to leave.
- In strikethrough are the players I think will be sold/free to leave if the club can move them on.
- This leaves 11 players I think will definitely be here come the start of the season.
- 7 players who will have their futures assessed and allowed to leave if Jones believes that is the right decision.
- 4 players who will definitely be allowed to leave and/or be sold/let go.
- Overall, I think we could see as many as 10 players coming in.
People will point out that he played for Milton Keynes when they finished 3rd, but so much of that success was down to a front 3 of Parrott, Eisa and Twine with players like Darling and O'Riley chipping in. Since then, Twine has done very well in the Championship, Darling plays in the Championship, and O'Riley plays for Celtic. Eisa does score goals and Parrott is probably one who has not lived up to the potential Spurs hoped he would, although he is only 22.
Ramsay is clearly ahead of him in terms of ability, potential and profile of player Jones will want, and if we can move Watson on, who has a year left on his contract, we absolutely should.4 -
I do feel a bit bad for Thomas. He played every single game under Jones across all three CB positions and captained the side for our biggest result. He looked like he was one Jones trusted to do a job and there's no denying he was a central part of the team Jones put out to steer us clear of relegation. Towards the end Thomas started to fall apart though and his timing on that really wasn't great. I'd like to think of it as Jones trusted Thomas to do enough to keep us away from relegation but now that we're heading into a transfer window he's not at the high level required and we're aiming higher, which implies certain promises have ben made. Considering we brought him in on a bit of a random free transfer as cover he played 61 games for us, filled in well at LB the previous season and until the fairly miserable end was probably our most consistent defender this season. Not good enough to be starting for a team pushing for promotion but he did the job that was asked of him in his two seasons and I'll think of him well for that.
Glad Tyreece is staying, would have been such a waste to just let him walk away25 -
Garrymanilow said:I do feel a bit bad for Thomas. He played every single game under Jones across all three CB positions and captained the side for our biggest result. He looked like he was one Jones trusted to do a job and there's no denying he was a central part of the team Jones put out to steer us clear of relegation. Towards the end Thomas started to fall apart though and his timing on that really wasn't great. I'd like to think of it as Jones trusted Thomas to do enough to keep us away from relegation but now that we're heading into a transfer window he's not at the high level required and we're aiming higher, which implies certain promises have ben made. Considering we brought him in on a bit of a random free transfer as cover he played 61 games for us, filled in well at LB the previous season and until the fairly miserable end was probably our most consistent defender this season. Not good enough to be starting for a team pushing for promotion but he did the job that was asked of him in his two seasons and I'll think of him well for that.
Glad Tyreece is staying, would have been such a waste to just let him walk away
That penalty at Wycombe did feel like the final straw, if NJ was undecided.8 -
Garrymanilow said:I do feel a bit bad for Thomas. He played every single game under Jones across all three CB positions and captained the side for our biggest result. He looked like he was one Jones trusted to do a job and there's no denying he was a central part of the team Jones put out to steer us clear of relegation. Towards the end Thomas started to fall apart though and his timing on that really wasn't great. I'd like to think of it as Jones trusted Thomas to do enough to keep us away from relegation but now that we're heading into a transfer window he's not at the high level required and we're aiming higher, which implies certain promises have ben made. Considering we brought him in on a bit of a random free transfer as cover he played 61 games for us, filled in well at LB the previous season and until the fairly miserable end was probably our most consistent defender this season. Not good enough to be starting for a team pushing for promotion but he did the job that was asked of him in his two seasons and I'll think of him well for that.
Glad Tyreece is staying, would have been such a waste to just let him walk away
Gave his all every time he featured - a real team player -but some will only remember the errors he made whilst being more forgiving of others.
I wish him well & hope he finds another club before too long.31 -
Sage said:Goalkeepers:
Ashley Maynard-Brewer
Harry Isted
Right Backs:
Kayne Ramsay
Nathan Asiimwe
Tennai Watson
Centre Backs:
Lloyd Jones
Lucas Ness
Macaulay Gillesphey
Rarmani Edmonds-Green
Zack Mitchell
Left Backs:
Thierry Small
Central Midfielders:
Aaron Henry
Conor Coventry
Conor McGrandles
Karoy Anderson
Scott Fraser
Terry Taylor
Tayo Edun
Wingers:
Tyreece Campbell
Strikers:
Alfie May
Chuks Aneke
Daniel Kanu
Miles Leaburn
From the squad above:- I have moved Edun into midfield as this is where I believe Jones sees him as a player, not at left back.
- In bold are the players I expect to be part of the squad next season with probably 5 or 6 of them in the starting 11.
- In italic are the players I think will be assessed early in pre-season who could potentially be moved on if the opportunity arises and Jones does not think they're going to feature much. I expect at least one of them to leave.
- In strikethrough are the players I think will be sold/free to leave if the club can move them on.
- This leaves 12 players I think will definitely be here come the start of the season.
- 7 players who will have their futures assessed and allowed to leave if Jones believes that is the right decision.
- 4 players who will definitely be allowed to leave and/or be sold/let go.
- Overall, I think we could see as many as 10 players coming in.
If we are serious about putting together a top 6 squad then we still need to get rid of another 6-8 players. It will not be easy & it might mean loaning them out again, but they can not be part of a promotion chasing squad next season.
Nathan Jones has said as much. Now lets see if the clubs actions match his ambitions.7 -
Garrymanilow said:I do feel a bit bad for Thomas. He played every single game under Jones across all three CB positions and captained the side for our biggest result. He looked like he was one Jones trusted to do a job and there's no denying he was a central part of the team Jones put out to steer us clear of relegation. Towards the end Thomas started to fall apart though and his timing on that really wasn't great. I'd like to think of it as Jones trusted Thomas to do enough to keep us away from relegation but now that we're heading into a transfer window he's not at the high level required and we're aiming higher, which implies certain promises have ben made. Considering we brought him in on a bit of a random free transfer as cover he played 61 games for us, filled in well at LB the previous season and until the fairly miserable end was probably our most consistent defender this season. Not good enough to be starting for a team pushing for promotion but he did the job that was asked of him in his two seasons and I'll think of him well for that.
Glad Tyreece is staying, would have been such a waste to just let him walk away5 - Sponsored links:
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Garrymanilow said:I do feel a bit bad for Thomas. He played every single game under Jones across all three CB positions and captained the side for our biggest result. He looked like he was one Jones trusted to do a job and there's no denying he was a central part of the team Jones put out to steer us clear of relegation. Towards the end Thomas started to fall apart though and his timing on that really wasn't great. I'd like to think of it as Jones trusted Thomas to do enough to keep us away from relegation but now that we're heading into a transfer window he's not at the high level required and we're aiming higher, which implies certain promises have ben made. Considering we brought him in on a bit of a random free transfer as cover he played 61 games for us, filled in well at LB the previous season and until the fairly miserable end was probably our most consistent defender this season. Not good enough to be starting for a team pushing for promotion but he did the job that was asked of him in his two seasons and I'll think of him well for that.
Glad Tyreece is staying, would have been such a waste to just let him walk away
Hector has so much talent but seems to lack concentration.
I trust we can import some defenders who will fight like tigers rather than fanny around.0 -
To be honest I think this is phase one of the squad rebuild. Huge task to move on those we need to and replace with better all in one window. Of course I hope I’m wrong but I see season 25/26 as the season we get promoted not 24/25. The mountain is just too steep and high to be done in one attempt.1
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golfaddick said:Shame there wasn't a final paragraph that read.....
And we will be listening to offers for
Mcgrandells
Fraser
Taylor0 -
A big turnover of players in the summer.
Hoping for some decent signings.
Terry Taylor will be like a new signing ( again )0 -
For me, Isted did nothing to prove he is a better keeper than AMB, If anything he showed he was more erratic and a shit kicker. I'd ship him out personally. I'd also get rid of Watson, Edun, McGrandles, Fraser, Taylor and Henry.
If Fraser wanted to stay, i'd personally keep him, however i think he wants a move back up to Scotland. Henry has done nothing on his loan or with us to show his good enough for us sadly, as i always thought he had some much potential. Taylor i'd keep but send out on loan, don't personally believe his done anything to merit being even a squad option atm. McGrandles just isn't for us, Tennai i'd keep as a backup, Edun can do wherever he wishes.Goalkeepers:
Ashley Maynard-Brewer 2nd choice
Harry Isted
Right Backs:
Kayne Ramsay
Nathan Asiimwe – send on loan, league 2 team until Jan
Tennai Watson
Centre Backs:
Lloyd Jones
Lucas Ness
Macaulay Gillesphey
Rarmani Edmonds-Green
Zack Mitchell – loan out for season
Left Backs:
Thierry Small
Central Midfielders:
Aaron Henry
Conor Coventry
Conor McGrandles
Karoy Anderson
Scott Fraser
Terry Taylor
Tayo Edun
Wingers:
Tyreece Campbell
Strikers:
Alfie May
Chuks Aneke
Daniel Kanu
Miles Leaburn
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If there remains a cadre of players with time left on their contract, but are not willing to leave (which I suppose is their right) I wonder if playing over age players in the U21 games is realistic.
Get some mileage out of them as it were, and keep them ticking over.1 -
Personally would have kept Hector possibly Wickham but agree with everything else.4
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Garrymanilow said:I do feel a bit bad for Thomas. He played every single game under Jones across all three CB positions and captained the side for our biggest result. He looked like he was one Jones trusted to do a job and there's no denying he was a central part of the team Jones put out to steer us clear of relegation. Towards the end Thomas started to fall apart though and his timing on that really wasn't great. I'd like to think of it as Jones trusted Thomas to do enough to keep us away from relegation but now that we're heading into a transfer window he's not at the high level required and we're aiming higher, which implies certain promises have ben made. Considering we brought him in on a bit of a random free transfer as cover he played 61 games for us, filled in well at LB the previous season and until the fairly miserable end was probably our most consistent defender this season. Not good enough to be starting for a team pushing for promotion but he did the job that was asked of him in his two seasons and I'll think of him well for that.
Glad Tyreece is staying, would have been such a waste to just let him walk away0 -
Had a look at the out of contract players in the Championship and League one, personally a few names on here that i'd be happy with
Out of Contract Players Championship/L1 2024
Goalkeepers
Christian Walton – Ipswich
Ben Hamer – Watford – just for the nostalgia
Jed Steer – PeterboroughRB’s
West Harding – Millwall
Jamie Shackleton – Leeds
Jordan Williams – Barnsley – He’d be my first choice
Sean Long – Cheltenham
Fin Stevens – Oxford
Tom James – Leyton OrientLBs
Sam McCallum – Norwich – Out of contract and lots of potential, also from CanterburyBrendan Galloway – Plymouth
Ben Williams – Cheltenham
Tom Pearce - WiganCBs
Jimmy Dunne – QPR
Di-Shon Bernard – Sheff Weds
Patrick Bauer – Preston
Josh Knight – Peterborough
Sam Hughes – burton
Sean Raggett
Jack Simpson – Leyton Orient
Jason Kerr – Wigan
Sam Sherring - NorthamptonDM/CMs
Hakeem Odoffin - Rotherham
Dominic Ball – Ipswich
Alan Browne – Preston
Joe Williams – Bristol City
Greg Docherty – Hull
Jordan Thompson – Stoke
Jamie Lindsay – Rotherham
Marcus McGuane – Oxford
Shaun McWilliams – Northampton
Sonny Carey – Blackpool
Herbie Kane – Barnsley
Tom Bayliss – Shrewsbury
Mark Helm – Burton
Joe Powell – Burton
Daniel Mandroiu – LincolnWingers
Jordan Gibson – Carlisle
Femi Azeez – Reading
Nicky Cadden – Barnsley
Mickel Miller – Plymouth
Chris Willock – QPR
Tyrhys Dolan – Blackburn – What a signing it would be but never going to happenStrikers
JCH – Peterborough
Daniel Udoh – Shrewsbury
Aaron Connolly – Hull
Tyrese Campbell – Stoke
Sinclair Armstrong – QPR – Have 1 year Option
Sam Gallagher – Blackburn – Have 1 year option
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May have missed it, but hopefully they have offered Kayne Ramsay an extended contract like Small, we need that done asap if not already...0
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eastterrace6168 said:May have missed it, but hopefully they have offered Kayne Ramsay an extended contract like Small, we need that done asap if not already...
Small has been offered new terms and if rejected we have him on a years extension at the very least.8 -
Chunes said:Garrymanilow said:I do feel a bit bad for Thomas. He played every single game under Jones across all three CB positions and captained the side for our biggest result. He looked like he was one Jones trusted to do a job and there's no denying he was a central part of the team Jones put out to steer us clear of relegation. Towards the end Thomas started to fall apart though and his timing on that really wasn't great. I'd like to think of it as Jones trusted Thomas to do enough to keep us away from relegation but now that we're heading into a transfer window he's not at the high level required and we're aiming higher, which implies certain promises have been made. Considering we brought him in on a bit of a random free transfer as cover he played 61 games for us, filled in well at LB the previous season and until the fairly miserable end was probably our most consistent defender this season. Not good enough to be starting for a team pushing for promotion but he did the job that was asked of him in his two seasons and I'll think of him well for that.
Glad Tyreece is staying, would have been such a waste to just let him walk away
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covered_end_junior said:eastterrace6168 said:May have missed it, but hopefully they have offered Kayne Ramsay an extended contract like Small, we need that done asap if not already...
Small has been offered new terms and if rejected we have him on a years extension at the very least.0 -
Garrymanilow said:Chunes said:Garrymanilow said:I do feel a bit bad for Thomas. He played every single game under Jones across all three CB positions and captained the side for our biggest result. He looked like he was one Jones trusted to do a job and there's no denying he was a central part of the team Jones put out to steer us clear of relegation. Towards the end Thomas started to fall apart though and his timing on that really wasn't great. I'd like to think of it as Jones trusted Thomas to do enough to keep us away from relegation but now that we're heading into a transfer window he's not at the high level required and we're aiming higher, which implies certain promises have been made. Considering we brought him in on a bit of a random free transfer as cover he played 61 games for us, filled in well at LB the previous season and until the fairly miserable end was probably our most consistent defender this season. Not good enough to be starting for a team pushing for promotion but he did the job that was asked of him in his two seasons and I'll think of him well for that.
Glad Tyreece is staying, would have been such a waste to just let him walk away0 -
Tyreece Campbell from Stoke would be good for a laugh.
As for released or not retained players, it brings me back to that old tale of advice from one football manager to another:
'make sure that your player's legs go, on another manager's pitch'2 -
Thomas proved he's a steady L1 defender and a decent character, and will get another contract elsewhere in L1. Somewhere like Cambridge for example. Is he a promotion team defender though? Unlikely.
I suspect that he and Hector have also suffered from being the 2 out of contract centre backs, when the other senior CBs Jones, REG and Gillesphey who I suspect have yet to entirely win over NJ, are under contract to 2025, 2026 and 2026 respectively, and thus much harder to move on if he wants to bring in new defenders.5 -
Exactly the decisions I would’ve made so I’m very happy with this list.
Bonus news that Tyreece Campbell has already signed a new deal.
Big summer ahead.1 -
killerandflash said:Thomas proved he's a steady L1 defender and a decent character, and will get another contract elsewhere in L1. Somewhere like Cambridge for example. Is he a promotion team defender though? Unlikely.
I suspect that he and Hector have also suffered from being the 2 out of contract centre backs, when the other senior CBs Jones, REG and Gillesphey who I suspect have yet to entirely win over NJ, are under contract to 2025, 2026 and 2026 respectively, and thus much harder to move on if he wants to bring in new defenders.
Thomas is probably a decent enough defender. But we don't need "decent enough" we need excellence. I am sure he won't be without a job for too long but I honestly can't see him ever being "one that got away" either.0 -
Chunes said:Garrymanilow said:Chunes said:Garrymanilow said:I do feel a bit bad for Thomas. He played every single game under Jones across all three CB positions and captained the side for our biggest result. He looked like he was one Jones trusted to do a job and there's no denying he was a central part of the team Jones put out to steer us clear of relegation. Towards the end Thomas started to fall apart though and his timing on that really wasn't great. I'd like to think of it as Jones trusted Thomas to do enough to keep us away from relegation but now that we're heading into a transfer window he's not at the high level required and we're aiming higher, which implies certain promises have been made. Considering we brought him in on a bit of a random free transfer as cover he played 61 games for us, filled in well at LB the previous season and until the fairly miserable end was probably our most consistent defender this season. Not good enough to be starting for a team pushing for promotion but he did the job that was asked of him in his two seasons and I'll think of him well for that.
Glad Tyreece is staying, would have been such a waste to just let him walk away
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Chunes said:Delighted. Higher standards needed for our CBs. Teams don't get promoted by constantly giving away cheap goals away and Hector, Thomas, Innis, etc... were bona fide experts in switching off in key moments. Standards need to be much higher.
I think Jones is the one to drive those standards and to find the players who live up to them
I hope next season we start with a much more consistent backline
I'm not sure Jones's substitutions of May recently weren't linked to Alfie deciding to go hunting for the ball rather than staying in position
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