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Traffic chaos in Kent
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thickandthin63 said:Jints said:thickandthin63 said:ken_shabby said:Complaining about this thread swerving into a Brexit bashing debate, when several prominent people involved with Dover have stated the problems ARE down to Brexit suggests the person who complained just doesn't want to face up to the fact that Brexit is causing all the problems project fear said would occur. And then to complain about the workers asking for a pay rise in line with inflation? yeah right, very relevant to Dover.
You'll be getting a 10% rise next year. if there is one group protected against inflation its pensioners.1 -
thickandthin63 said:Jints said:thickandthin63 said:ken_shabby said:Complaining about this thread swerving into a Brexit bashing debate, when several prominent people involved with Dover have stated the problems ARE down to Brexit suggests the person who complained just doesn't want to face up to the fact that Brexit is causing all the problems project fear said would occur. And then to complain about the workers asking for a pay rise in line with inflation? yeah right, very relevant to Dover.
You'll be getting a 10% rise next year. if there is one group protected against inflation its pensioners.0 -
charltonkeston said:thickandthin63 said:Jints said:thickandthin63 said:ken_shabby said:Complaining about this thread swerving into a Brexit bashing debate, when several prominent people involved with Dover have stated the problems ARE down to Brexit suggests the person who complained just doesn't want to face up to the fact that Brexit is causing all the problems project fear said would occur. And then to complain about the workers asking for a pay rise in line with inflation? yeah right, very relevant to Dover.
You'll be getting a 10% rise next year. if there is one group protected against inflation its pensioners.0 -
According to BBC news reports last weekend, there are12 passport booths at Dover, I don't know how many there are at Eurotunnel.0
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Jints said:thickandthin63 said:ken_shabby said:Complaining about this thread swerving into a Brexit bashing debate, when several prominent people involved with Dover have stated the problems ARE down to Brexit suggests the person who complained just doesn't want to face up to the fact that Brexit is causing all the problems project fear said would occur. And then to complain about the workers asking for a pay rise in line with inflation? yeah right, very relevant to Dover.
You'll be getting a 10% rise next year. if there is one group protected against inflation its pensioners.
The triple lock suited the government for the past decade as inflation was next to nothing.
This year inflation rose rapidly so they abolished it.2 -
blackpool72 said:Jints said:thickandthin63 said:ken_shabby said:Complaining about this thread swerving into a Brexit bashing debate, when several prominent people involved with Dover have stated the problems ARE down to Brexit suggests the person who complained just doesn't want to face up to the fact that Brexit is causing all the problems project fear said would occur. And then to complain about the workers asking for a pay rise in line with inflation? yeah right, very relevant to Dover.
You'll be getting a 10% rise next year. if there is one group protected against inflation its pensioners.
The triple lock suited the government for the past decade as inflation was next to nothing.
This year inflation rose rapidly so they abolished it.
As one of the many affected by this,I was really pissed off,but to be fair it was unsustainable especially after the cost of the pandemic.0 -
blackpool72 said:Jints said:thickandthin63 said:ken_shabby said:Complaining about this thread swerving into a Brexit bashing debate, when several prominent people involved with Dover have stated the problems ARE down to Brexit suggests the person who complained just doesn't want to face up to the fact that Brexit is causing all the problems project fear said would occur. And then to complain about the workers asking for a pay rise in line with inflation? yeah right, very relevant to Dover.
You'll be getting a 10% rise next year. if there is one group protected against inflation its pensioners.
The triple lock suited the government for the past decade as inflation was next to nothing.
This year inflation rose rapidly so they abolished it.
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clive said:blackpool72 said:Jints said:thickandthin63 said:ken_shabby said:Complaining about this thread swerving into a Brexit bashing debate, when several prominent people involved with Dover have stated the problems ARE down to Brexit suggests the person who complained just doesn't want to face up to the fact that Brexit is causing all the problems project fear said would occur. And then to complain about the workers asking for a pay rise in line with inflation? yeah right, very relevant to Dover.
You'll be getting a 10% rise next year. if there is one group protected against inflation its pensioners.
The triple lock suited the government for the past decade as inflation was next to nothing.
This year inflation rose rapidly so they abolished it.2 -
thickandthin63 said:charltonkeston said:thickandthin63 said:Jints said:thickandthin63 said:ken_shabby said:Complaining about this thread swerving into a Brexit bashing debate, when several prominent people involved with Dover have stated the problems ARE down to Brexit suggests the person who complained just doesn't want to face up to the fact that Brexit is causing all the problems project fear said would occur. And then to complain about the workers asking for a pay rise in line with inflation? yeah right, very relevant to Dover.
You'll be getting a 10% rise next year. if there is one group protected against inflation its pensioners.
I take your point though, 3% of not much is still not much.0 -
blackpool72 said:Jints said:thickandthin63 said:ken_shabby said:Complaining about this thread swerving into a Brexit bashing debate, when several prominent people involved with Dover have stated the problems ARE down to Brexit suggests the person who complained just doesn't want to face up to the fact that Brexit is causing all the problems project fear said would occur. And then to complain about the workers asking for a pay rise in line with inflation? yeah right, very relevant to Dover.
You'll be getting a 10% rise next year. if there is one group protected against inflation its pensioners.
The triple lock suited the government for the past decade as inflation was next to nothing.
This year inflation rose rapidly so they abolished it.0 - Sponsored links:
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And the triple lock suited the Govt because it wins votes. Pensions have gone up much more than inflation over the last 10 years.0
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Jints said:And the triple lock suited the Govt because it wins votes. Pensions have gone up much more than inflation over the last 10 years.You don't like pensioners very much do you0
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blackpool72 said:Jints said:And the triple lock suited the Govt because it wins votes. Pensions have gone up much more than inflation over the last 10 years.You don't like pensioners very much do you
I have to say, reading Jints' posts I don't get where he dislikes pensioners? It looks like he points out a few facts, that's all.1 -
Although pensioners form a large part of the voting population, they are quite rightly protected from some of the things that everyone else has to worry about!
But it can be annoying to hear people banging on sanctimoniously about inflation and strikes from a point of relative safety.
I'm a pensioner by the way!
And I've just noticed what this thread is supposed to be about! What's all this got to do with traffic in Kent?3 -
Think this is probably reflected in this discussion too.
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France has sovereignty, they can run their border checks how they like.
It is funny that one of the candidates for the next Prime Minister thinks they can tell France what to do in this regard.
You’re running to be in charge of the UK you dolt, not France.
The border checks are going to get worse when the EU imposes tariffs on UK goods as a result of the UK breaking international law over the land border.
Incidentally the European Court of Human Rights is not an EU institution, but the dolt says the UK should leave that too.
The UK is well on the way to becoming a Banana Republic Monarchy, but instead of bananas all the UK will have left to export will be roadkill sausages.6 -
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seth plum said:France has sovereignty, they can run their border checks how they like.
It is funny that one of the candidates for the next Prime Minister thinks they can tell France what to do in this regard.
You’re running to be in charge of the UK you dolt, not France.
The border checks are going to get worse when the EU imposes tariffs on UK goods as a result of the UK breaking international law over the land border.
Incidentally the European Court of Human Rights is not an EU institution, but the dolt says the UK should leave that too.
The UK is well on the way to becoming a Banana Republic Monarchy, but instead of bananas all the UK will have left to export will be roadkill sausages.0 -
billysboots said:seth plum said:France has sovereignty, they can run their border checks how they like.
It is funny that one of the candidates for the next Prime Minister thinks they can tell France what to do in this regard.
You’re running to be in charge of the UK you dolt, not France.
The border checks are going to get worse when the EU imposes tariffs on UK goods as a result of the UK breaking international law over the land border.
Incidentally the European Court of Human Rights is not an EU institution, but the dolt says the UK should leave that too.
The UK is well on the way to becoming a Banana Republic Monarchy, but instead of bananas all the UK will have left to export will be roadkill sausages.4 -
golfaddick said:Bournemouth Addick said:colthe3rd said:Bournemouth Addick said:MuttleyCAFC said:thickandthin63 said:MuttleyCAFC said:Sadly, I don't think it is something we can do until the Conservative party sorts itself out. We need a consensus and we have the malevolent press who tell gullible people what to think and it would be presented as a return to the EU, despite being something even Farage supported before the vote and the Brexit side kept saying a deal would be done.
I think there are things that can be done in the meantime by simply having a different relationship with the EU. One of friendship and respect. I think some major problems can be tackled if we treat France as partners.
It is irrelevant if we think the French could do more or not. The question should be, can we do something and I honestly think a change of attitude can achieve a lot.
If it's not Brexit then what they're effectively saying is large parts of Kent can be brought to a standstill because 5 or 6 French people were an hour or two late to work. Which is it?
The government's insistence that there are no downsides to Brexit means they've painted them, and us, into a corner.
As with anything in life we cannot start sorting it out properly until we recognise what's causing the problem. The new PM is obviously just going to continue blaming anything and everyone else but the unavoidable consequences of being outside the EU that are causing these traffic issues at the border.
Seems like the only way someone thinks they can become Conservative Leader is if they advocate Leave even if they didn't do so at the time. Not sure how many Remainers would now say that Brexit was a great idea so Truss must be in a minority of 1.2 - Sponsored links:
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So last weekend there was not chaos in Dover or Folkstone. Was that because the M20 wasnt shut because of a crash and all the French Border Controls were open?. First weekend of the school holidays has always been chaos at the Channel crossing points even when we were in the EU.3
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That's interesting to know. We often crossed the channel at this time when my son was at school but somehow didn't experience this. Probably lucky.0
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Bromley Graham said:So last weekend there was not chaos in Dover or Folkstone. Was that because the M20 wasnt shut because of a crash and all the French Border Controls were open?. First weekend of the school holidays has always been chaos at the Channel crossing points even when we were in the EU.
On this occasion, Operation Brock which was put in place in anticipation of the queues caused by Brexit checks, couldn't cope and wasn't utilised properly causing chaos on many roads far away from Dover & Folkestone.
The people of Dover frequently have to put up with HGV traffic queuing on the A20 approach to Dover, often a night where they are disturbed by engines running and hooting of horns.0 -
ME14addick said:Bromley Graham said:So last weekend there was not chaos in Dover or Folkstone. Was that because the M20 wasnt shut because of a crash and all the French Border Controls were open?. First weekend of the school holidays has always been chaos at the Channel crossing points even when we were in the EU.
On this occasion, Operation Brock which was put in place in anticipation of the queues caused by Brexit checks, couldn't cope and wasn't utilised properly causing chaos on many roads far away from Dover & Folkestone.
The people of Dover frequently have to put up with HGV traffic queuing on the A20 approach to Dover, often a night where they are disturbed by engines running and hooting of horns.
And don't get me started at CAFC supporters who are never happy with most of the team, TS, and the manager. Life is a bitch sometimes1 -
Algarveaddick said:blackpool72 said:Jints said:And the triple lock suited the Govt because it wins votes. Pensions have gone up much more than inflation over the last 10 years.You don't like pensioners very much do you
I have to say, reading Jints' posts I don't get where he dislikes pensioners? It looks like he points out a few facts, that's all.
Is that a consequence of Brexit?4 -
Bromley Graham said:ME14addick said:Bromley Graham said:So last weekend there was not chaos in Dover or Folkstone. Was that because the M20 wasnt shut because of a crash and all the French Border Controls were open?. First weekend of the school holidays has always been chaos at the Channel crossing points even when we were in the EU.
On this occasion, Operation Brock which was put in place in anticipation of the queues caused by Brexit checks, couldn't cope and wasn't utilised properly causing chaos on many roads far away from Dover & Folkestone.
The people of Dover frequently have to put up with HGV traffic queuing on the A20 approach to Dover, often a night where they are disturbed by engines running and hooting of horns.
And don't get me started at CAFC supporters who are never happy with most of the team, TS, and the manager. Life is a bitch sometimes0 -
We're off to France in the morning via Dover/Calais, can't say I'm looking forward to tackling Dover. Have an 08:30 crossing booked but we're planning to leave Bexley at 4. Would rather sit in the terminal for a couple of hours drinking coffee if by some miracle we don't we don't get held up and not let on an earlier crossing. My biggest worry is getting stuck in traffic and needing the toilet!0
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DaveMehmet said:We're off to France in the morning via Dover/Calais, can't say I'm looking forward to tackling Dover. Have an 08:30 crossing booked but we're planning to leave Bexley at 4. Would rather sit in the terminal for a couple of hours drinking coffee if by some miracle we don't we don't get held up and not let on an earlier crossing. My biggest worry is getting stuck in traffic and needing the toilet!1
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HastingsRed said:DaveMehmet said:We're off to France in the morning via Dover/Calais, can't say I'm looking forward to tackling Dover. Have an 08:30 crossing booked but we're planning to leave Bexley at 4. Would rather sit in the terminal for a couple of hours drinking coffee if by some miracle we don't we don't get held up and not let on an earlier crossing. My biggest worry is getting stuck in traffic and needing the toilet!1