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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic vs Oxford United | Saturday 19th February 2022
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No its not, everything Robinson, and every sensible person on here, is saying what Jackson needs and should have is exactly what Adkins needed and should have got last summer.ElliotCAFC said:
Come on, there’s a monumental difference between a manager bigging up the opposition on game-week 2 and a manager pointing fingers at a clubs structure 32 games in.Cafc43v3r said:ElliotCAFC said:Interesting comments from Karl Robinson:
“I don't think Johnnie Jackson is the one who should be looking at himself."
"I think a lot of other things might need to change to make this a good club"
"[Jackson] has the nouse and the understanding. Now he maybe needs to be given the a bit more the reins to do what he needs to do. Maybe that may change."Obviously he’s going to defend his mate after a loss like that, but it certainly adds fuel to the fire when discussing how much TS (and Martin Sandgaard) are overly involved in things they fundamentally don’t understand.“They know that they’re going to be ultra-competitive.
“A lot of staff I brought in are still there so I know how good they are and how good Nigel (Adkins, Charlton boss) is.”
Robinson in August. It seemed to be a recurring theme the opposition manager bigging up Nigel at the start of the season.
One’s good PR every manager will do after a victory, the other is completely different.
His own staff
His own players
The right to kick out the bad apples
100% say, not through committee
Adkins didn't get it. He deserved the sack for his last 4 or 5 games but played the first 10 with one hand tied behind his back. If it wasn't by the owner it was with someone with delegated authority.
If Adkins was given what he needed in the summer we might not be blowing the league out the water but we wouldn't be looking over our shoulder at the the 4th, yes the 4th, division in March!
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He’s a good keeper without an organised defence and natural leader in front of himSouthbank said:
McGillvray is a shit keeper who only 'stoppeth one in 3)hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Entertaining afternoon. Oxford played some good football but were let down by their playacting.
McGivilray made some good saves but the rest of the team in red looked like they were unfamiliar with the game and didn't look interested.
We go again on Tuesday. MK Dons must be looking forward to the game.0 -
With a dog shit bag over one’s handMendonca In Asdas said:
How do you pick a team up after that?AndyG said:Tuesday will be interesting11 -
I posted the following on the match thread, but thought it was appropriate to share here too:
“Can’t remember ever being so disengaged when watching Charlton. I don’t realistically feel like we’ll go down this year, so the season is basically over. I’m not even getting angry at the shit goals we’re conceding. Its awful viewing. The quality of football is atrocious. It’s just so depressing while being all too familiar.
My daughter was born in 2008. We’ve spent over half her life in league one. Every season of relative success has been a false dawn.I just can’t see what we might do this summer to move up out of this league and I’m even finding it difficult to envisage any end to this godawful period in our history.”I wrote this at halftime. I’d stopped watching really, the game was just on in the background.
Later, when Oxford scored their third, I just raised my eyebrows, tutted, and checked other scores around the country. Just wasn’t that bothered. There was no enjoyment to be had watching, so letting in a third was of minimal consequence. I actually switched over to watch Liverpool v Norwich as Norwich were winning 0-1. Almost inevitably, the Mickeys equalised pretty much immediately. I actually reacted more angrily to that than to the third goal against my own team. That truly saddens me.4 -
If a goalie lets one go straight through him, for you he has a good game!!hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
I thought Mac had a good game - my MOTM. There were no other candidates tbfgolfaddick said:
Big Mac made 2 good saves at the end or it could have been 6-0.BigRedEvil said:Nobody looked interested, even the bench. Waste of an afternoon. Also our keeper is very suspect, 2 of the goals today he should have done better1 -
Our players don't look fit and don't look bothered - embarrassing to watch. Even the booing was half-hearted at the end.1
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Start with 2 central defendersMendonca In Asdas said:
How do you pick a team up after that?AndyG said:Tuesday will be interesting2 -
Wbo barely knows how to catch a ball.letthegoodtimesroll said:
He’s a good keeper without an organised defence and natural leader in front of himSouthbank said:
McGillvray is a shit keeper who only 'stoppeth one in 3)hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Entertaining afternoon. Oxford played some good football but were let down by their playacting.
McGivilray made some good saves but the rest of the team in red looked like they were unfamiliar with the game and didn't look interested.
We go again on Tuesday. MK Dons must be looking forward to the game.4 -
Wait, Gilbey was CAPTAIN?! Sack him. Sack him now0
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Those games aren't the problemMickeyBennett said:
I would go as far as to say that this scenario is profoundly conceivable.timken said:Not inconceivable we could lose our next 3.mk dons,sheff we'd,sunderland .the we are back in a relegation scrap
It's when we cone to play Shrewsbury, Morecombe etc. They might be 6 pointers.3 - Sponsored links:
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This, to me, is actually the biggest thing. Now they are unfit. They were unfit against Accrington and 4 days later were the fittest team in the world.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Our players don't look fit and don't look bothered - embarrassing to watch. Even the booing was half-hearted at the end.
That is not fitness that's something else, isn't it?4 -
Really, give me some manager names and the players they wold like to take off us.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:Zero sympathy for the management team ..we have squad that most managers would give their right arm for…you have had a full week of training in the knowledge that the strikers are out so plan for it..tactility inept0 -
McGillvray is like my vasectomy scar. I know its there but I'd rather it wasn't.Southbank said:
McGillvray is a shit keeper who only 'stoppeth one in 3)hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Entertaining afternoon. Oxford played some good football but were let down by their playacting.
McGivilray made some good saves but the rest of the team in red looked like they were unfamiliar with the game and didn't look interested.
We go again on Tuesday. MK Dons must be looking forward to the game.1 -
It's just such a poor offering at the moment. Pain in the crack freebies plus a properly shit team to watch. Classic combination.
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Ffs! Over reaction of the year award!!!!paulfox said:I really want Jacko to go…. Because I’m fucking disgusted that this set of players are fucking over another manager for the third time, and this happens to be a fella they all got behind and is someone as a Charlton fan I don’t want to remember as a failure. It’s completely unfair, I know he has made some iffy selections but to get what we are seeing is abysmal.The striker situation is unfortunate, but also a convenient excuse for being shit. Is this bunch of letdowns actually unmanageable??? …. Because if the three blokes they are eventually going to have on there resume of getting the boot can’t all be shit managers/coaches. This season is fucking dogshit.1 -
Watched Fulham earlier. Two sides in the Premier League at the same size once upon a time, and us arguably more successful.
How have we got into this mess?2 -
Today was embarrassing, but that line up and formation was so predictable we were never going to get anything out of it. Three CBs on the bench ffs and a midfielder on the pitch filling one of those roles! When we went 1-0 down it was game over as we had nothing on the bench who could make a difference. Don't want to blame JJ as we have no strike force but that was clueless today.0
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Don't fancy us on Tuesday or next Sat. Could get ugly in the away end at Hillsborough3
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Painful to say but genuinely think we are at the stage when anything except Leko playing up front is a bonus. He has shown nothing to believe he can play up front. Whatever happens between now and the end of the season Leko cannot play up front. Would prefer us to not play with a striker than Leko up top. Genuinely offers nothing.
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PWRI have been going now for near 50 years and that was right up there with one of the worst
Yes Oxford are a pretty decent outfit, but we made them look great.
Iniss, Dobson, can hold their heads up. Morgan and Elliot looked like they cared. Clare I like, but I am sorry that was pathetic and stupid
I will be there Tuesday let’s hope the plastic fans who were giving it after 2-0 give it a swerve. Lots around this club is depressing and toxic around this club right now1 -
This will get worse before it gets better.4
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Has the feel of one of those weeks coming up. Similar to when Hull beat us 6-0 and Huddesfield 5-0 in the same week. Just expecting to get the treatment in next coupleJ BLOCK said:This will get worse before it gets better.
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The Valley isn't a football ground, it's a f***ing torture chamber.1
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30 odd years, we can’t have lost at home 4-0 in the third division too many times in that period?ShootersHillGuru said:0 -
Today was a bad at the office, a very bad day at the office.
The printer ran out of toner, the broadband crashed and the server got taken out with ransom ware, I have no other comprehensible explanation.1 -
injuries and/or poor selections are playing havoc with our performances .. until we are able to settle with a core selection cadre of 14/15 we are going NOwhere .. I've lost track of our current injury list .. anyone know the full extent ?0
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This was possibly the worst performance I have seen in my 63 years watching Charlton. To a man, they were clueless. That was a relegation performance, period. Many of those in a red shirt today are stealing a living - at our expense. One change Jackson must make for Tuesday is to restore Pearce to the team as captain. He has his limitations, but he will play with passion, and with pride in wearing the shirt, something which cannot be said of the likes of Matthews, Leko, Clare, Lee and Gilbey.
Today, I was ashamed to be a Charlton supporter.7
