Ohhhhh Jeremy Corrrrrrbyn
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Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.
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How would we choose a Prime Minister ?Addickted said:Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.
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KNIFE FIGHTS IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS.ShootersHillGuru said:
How would we choose a Prime Minister ?Addickted said:Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.
Sort of like that scene in Rebel Without a Cause.2 -
Wouldn’t that favour the Tories ? Thought a dagger was part of their welcome pack.EastStand said:
KNIFE FIGHTS IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS.ShootersHillGuru said:
How would we choose a Prime Minister ?Addickted said:Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.
Sort of like that scene in Rebel Without a Cause.
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The 650 MPs vote on the 'Peoples Cabinet' which would include all senior Political roles.ShootersHillGuru said:
How would we choose a Prime Minister ?Addickted said:Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.
Better than been chosen by just those in 'power'.1 -
Not realistic though is it.Addickted said:
The 650 MPs vote on the 'Peoples Cabinet' which would include all senior Political roles.ShootersHillGuru said:
How would we choose a Prime Minister ?Addickted said:Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.
Better than been chosen by just those in 'power'.
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Neither is Brexit.ShootersHillGuru said:
Not realistic though is it.Addickted said:
The 650 MPs vote on the 'Peoples Cabinet' which would include all senior Political roles.ShootersHillGuru said:
How would we choose a Prime Minister ?Addickted said:Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.
Better than been chosen by just those in 'power'.
What we have got doesn't appear to be working, look at alternatives, don't put up barriers and see where we go.1 -
The Party system is in every democracy there is. It’s not going to change. I can tell you that is a fact.Addickted said:
Neither is Brexit.ShootersHillGuru said:
Not realistic though is it.Addickted said:
The 650 MPs vote on the 'Peoples Cabinet' which would include all senior Political roles.ShootersHillGuru said:
How would we choose a Prime Minister ?Addickted said:Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.
Better than been chosen by just those in 'power'.
What we have got doesn't appear to be working, look at alternatives, don't put up barriers and see where we go.
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But you chose to only highlight one set a few posts earlier.Addickted said:Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.0 - Sponsored links:
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But after it was called I’m sure?newyorkaddick said:0 -
Sorry yesse9addick said:
But after it was called I’m sure?newyorkaddick said:0 -
Racism is not OK.Big_Bad_World said:
She'd also bring a fresh racist mindset to the role which, it would seem, is okay if it's a Labour politician.seth plum said:
One improvement is that Abbott does not seem to have the 'hostile environment' kind of mindset that an evil Tory like May has.Big_Bad_World said:
So it's out of the realms of possibility that Diane 'Carol Vorderman' Abbott could do worse than Theresa May?ShootersHillGuru said:
Well in all seriousness she couldn’t possibly do any worse at The Home Office than Theresa May did.soapy_jones said:Future Home Secretary...
Who's your dealer?
It's a funny old world.1 -
Even if that were true would it matter?se9addick said:
But after it was called I’m sure?newyorkaddick said:0 -
I highlight both sides of the abyss.MuttleyCAFC said:
But you chose to only highlight one set a few posts earlier.Addickted said:Ahh - I see.
Not confused, I'm well aware of idiots on both side of the political divide and they all piss me off. Had enough of the petty bitching and infighting and the sooner we get rid of 'party politics' the better. It's all just petty back biting and blaming the other side, rather than 'let's see what we can do to make it better'.
To my mind the only way forward is with 650 independent MPs.
For balance.0 -
Polls in December
Opinium (14th Dec) – CON 38%, LAB 39%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 6%
YouGov (7th Dec) – CON 38%, LAB 37%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 3%
Kantar (6th Dec) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 5%
Ipsos MORI (5th Dec) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 4%
YouGov (4th Dec) – CON 40%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 4%
ComRes (2nd Dec) – CON 37%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 6%
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Mad, Labour should normally be miles ahead at this stage.Jints said:Polls in December
Opinium (14th Dec) – CON 38%, LAB 39%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 6%
YouGov (7th Dec) – CON 38%, LAB 37%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 3%
Kantar (6th Dec) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 5%
Ipsos MORI (5th Dec) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 4%
YouGov (4th Dec) – CON 40%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 4%
ComRes (2nd Dec) – CON 37%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 6%0 -
Vince Cable should be having a long hard look in the mirror as well. Lib Dems should be on 25% plus with this abysmal Government and pathetic opposition.4
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corbyn bottles no confidence vote.
Prime minister and the leader of the opposition are both gutless cowards.1 - Sponsored links:
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"MPs will vote on the UK's Brexit deal in the week beginning 14 January, Theresa May has told Parliament.kentaddick said:corbyn bottles no confidence vote.
Prime minister and the leader of the opposition are both gutless cowards.
The vote was due to be held last week but was put on hold after Theresa May admitted she was set to lose.
Announcing a new date, Mrs May said the EU had made it clear the Irish backstop was "not a plot to trap the UK" and urged MPs to see Brexit through.
Labour had threatened to force a confidence vote in the PM if she did not set a date for the vote".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-465866730 -
yes they had, but they haven't gone through with their threat (watch bbc parliament now).micks1950 said:
"MPs will vote on the UK's Brexit deal in the week beginning 14 January, Theresa May has told Parliament.kentaddick said:corbyn bottles no confidence vote.
Prime minister and the leader of the opposition are both gutless cowards.
The vote was due to be held last week but was put on hold after Theresa May admitted she was set to lose.
Announcing a new date, Mrs May said the EU had made it clear the Irish backstop was "not a plot to trap the UK" and urged MPs to see Brexit through.
Labour had threatened to force a confidence vote in the PM if she did not set a date for the vote".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46586673
Justine greening going further than the leader of the opposition in criticising may. Her own backbenches in more open oppisition than the leader of the opposition. Dear me0 -
Because she has set a date?kentaddick said:
yes they had, but they haven't gone through with their threat (watch bbc parliament now).micks1950 said:
"MPs will vote on the UK's Brexit deal in the week beginning 14 January, Theresa May has told Parliament.kentaddick said:corbyn bottles no confidence vote.
Prime minister and the leader of the opposition are both gutless cowards.
The vote was due to be held last week but was put on hold after Theresa May admitted she was set to lose.
Announcing a new date, Mrs May said the EU had made it clear the Irish backstop was "not a plot to trap the UK" and urged MPs to see Brexit through.
Labour had threatened to force a confidence vote in the PM if she did not set a date for the vote".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46586673
Justine greening going further than the leader of the opposition in criticising may. Her own backbenches in more open oppisition than the leader of the opposition. Dear me0 -
Yup next year. Bloody good that does us. Article 50 is still activeCAFCsayer said:
Because she has set a date?kentaddick said:
yes they had, but they haven't gone through with their threat (watch bbc parliament now).micks1950 said:
"MPs will vote on the UK's Brexit deal in the week beginning 14 January, Theresa May has told Parliament.kentaddick said:corbyn bottles no confidence vote.
Prime minister and the leader of the opposition are both gutless cowards.
The vote was due to be held last week but was put on hold after Theresa May admitted she was set to lose.
Announcing a new date, Mrs May said the EU had made it clear the Irish backstop was "not a plot to trap the UK" and urged MPs to see Brexit through.
Labour had threatened to force a confidence vote in the PM if she did not set a date for the vote".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46586673
Justine greening going further than the leader of the opposition in criticising may. Her own backbenches in more open oppisition than the leader of the opposition. Dear me0 -
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I assume that this is tongue in cheek?... it is less than 3 weeks timekentaddick said:
Yup next year. Bloody good that does us. Article 50 is still activeCAFCsayer said:
Because she has set a date?kentaddick said:
yes they had, but they haven't gone through with their threat (watch bbc parliament now).micks1950 said:
"MPs will vote on the UK's Brexit deal in the week beginning 14 January, Theresa May has told Parliament.kentaddick said:corbyn bottles no confidence vote.
Prime minister and the leader of the opposition are both gutless cowards.
The vote was due to be held last week but was put on hold after Theresa May admitted she was set to lose.
Announcing a new date, Mrs May said the EU had made it clear the Irish backstop was "not a plot to trap the UK" and urged MPs to see Brexit through.
Labour had threatened to force a confidence vote in the PM if she did not set a date for the vote".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46586673
Justine greening going further than the leader of the opposition in criticising may. Her own backbenches in more open oppisition than the leader of the opposition. Dear me0 -
And Corbyn believes her? Come on.CAFCsayer said:
Because she has set a date?kentaddick said:
yes they had, but they haven't gone through with their threat (watch bbc parliament now).micks1950 said:
"MPs will vote on the UK's Brexit deal in the week beginning 14 January, Theresa May has told Parliament.kentaddick said:corbyn bottles no confidence vote.
Prime minister and the leader of the opposition are both gutless cowards.
The vote was due to be held last week but was put on hold after Theresa May admitted she was set to lose.
Announcing a new date, Mrs May said the EU had made it clear the Irish backstop was "not a plot to trap the UK" and urged MPs to see Brexit through.
Labour had threatened to force a confidence vote in the PM if she did not set a date for the vote".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46586673
Justine greening going further than the leader of the opposition in criticising may. Her own backbenches in more open oppisition than the leader of the opposition. Dear me
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She's played a blinder but perhaps for a different reason. She can't get more than 200 to support her WA so she will have to " reluctantly" allow MPs a free vote.letthegoodtimesroll said:I’m starting to think May has actually played a blinder, albeit not necessarily intentionally. The longer this process drags on, it’s beginning to look more likely the EU and the Euro are going to go into a meltdown. We could step in and propose a new type of EU to sort it out, a sort of common market...beats me why we didn’t just sign up for that in the first place,..
Revoke Article 50, no deal or a referendum are the options... and it appears that there's a majority for a People's vote.
Corbyn and Labour won't support the WA and they haven't got the numbers to win a no confidence. So perhaps they will go for a People's vote which is, of course, part of their policy.
There are plenty of other possible outcomes but this one might deliver a soft landing?
For those interested this piece in the Guardian talks to the policies of Sanders and Corbyn. https://theguardian.com/books/2018/dec/17/the-next-left-socialism-in-the-uk-and-the-us
We should all recognise that there's a broad spectrum and that many voters will not shift home immediately, even if it's actually in their interests. Corbyn and Labour were stuck on 26% back in 2016 and the combined Tory UKIP vote exceeded 55%. They've lost 10% in three years or five million votes!
Back in the 1990s New Labour toned down their message so as to attract the centre but we are in a very different situation today with centrists being hammered at the ballot box across Europe.0 -
You made a joke earlier today casually linking antisemitism to justice for Palestine. If the shoe had been on the other foot, you would have blown this thread up.kentaddick said:
If you make a joke of other people's concerns, why do you expect those same people to listen to you?6 -
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/satiremcgrandall said:
You made a joke earlier today casually linking antisemitism to justice for Palestine. If the shoe had been on the other foot, you would have blown this thread up.kentaddick said:
If you make a joke of other people's concerns, why do you expect those same people to listen to you?0