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Queens Park Rangers v Charlton | Sat 21 Dec | 3pm KO | Post-match views
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Agreed - the defenders should have dealt with it.superclive98 said:
That ball for the first goal yesterday wasn't his to claim. Goalkeepers that come for balls that far from their line will, probably 8 times out of 10, be made to look silly.AddicksAddict said:
His kicking can be woeful at times and he doesn't come to claim crosses anything like as much as he said, witness the first goal yesterday. I'm pleased we have him but he's not PL class so I'm pleased we'll be having him for a long time yet.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.
Sometimes you just have to rely on your defenders to defend. It's a percentage call and his call yesterday was correct.1 -
He wont get near the premiership unless he starts coming out to claim balls and sorts his kicking out.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.4 -
100% this! Dills is obviously under strict instruction to stay rooted and not to come out and claim the ball but there have been a few times now where he probably should have come out and met the ball (yesterday, Hulls 1st and 2nd, Doncaster’s late leveller in the playoffs).rina said:I'm not sure Naby deserves all the blame for the opener. Yes he should've done better with it but he had every right to expect Dillon to have come out and taken the ball rather than backing away onto his line as it came in
And I feel a little sorry for Pearce as he got made to look a fool for their 2nd but Osayi-Samuel did that to our entire defence on numerous occasions, he was a class above everyone else on the pitch once he came on
Doughty was superb, never stopped trying and their right back must've been glad when the final whistle wentDon’t get me wrong, he is a brilliant keeper but I can’t help but think that if he did come off his line for crosses he would make our defence immediately less suspect.1 -
Classic finish. Connor Gallagher was playing for three players and such a hero. Dillon Phillips kept
us in the game and the big save was a turning point but not as much as big Jason coming on. I don’t know why he did not start in the first place as he is
such a good leader in defence. Great fan experience at the end of the game and it keeps us
all believing we can stay in this division and compete. Taylor was great although a yard off the pace but will only improve over the next few games. loads of money chucked at Bowyer may not be the way forward with this kind of team spirit as this never say die attitude can get killed off by a massive cash injection where players are replaced too easily. We have to be careful what we wish for.
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What does Morgan have to do to start ?6
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All those saying why isn’t Pearce starting, why isn’t Morgan starting, don’t forget we are down to the bare bones. Bowyer is trying to rotate as much as he can and we are going into the hectic Christmas and New Year schedule. When players are benched, they are not dropped, it’s Bowyer with an eye on the upcoming games and trying to do what he can with a thin squad. Morgan did well against Hull and by all accounts yesterday too, but these are his first Championship games, we need to manage him as best we can as his contribution will be crucial over the next few weeks.6
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If Morgan is fit on boxing Day he will start.wmcf123 said:What does Morgan have to do to start ?
No Leko, Williams, Oztumer, surely he must start. In Bowyer we trust but Vennings getting the nod over Albie the other week to come on as sub still baffles me.
Quite rightly Alfie gets praise from Lee, but Albie needs the boost from the manager as well.3 -
Blooding Vennings as we might be needing him if things carry on like this?soapboxsam said:
If Morgan is fit on boxing Day he will start.wmcf123 said:What does Morgan have to do to start ?
No Leko, Williams, Oztumer, surely he must start. In Bowyer we trust but Vennings getting the nod over Albie the other week to come on as sub still baffles me.
Quite rightly Alfie gets praise from Lee, but Albie needs the boost from the manager as well.0 -
He’s a great example of why we as fans should have a bit more patience with emerging youth into first team and why managers should show more belief in players even after a couple of mistakes.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.
Confidence is huge, especially for many goalkeepers.
Many weren’t keen/sure on Phillips at first and wanted yet another loanee to come in for number 1 position, but he’s certainly proved himself the last couple of years, and turned into an excellent shot stopper and vocal part of the team.7 -
Fanny Fanackapan said:Different venue, different competition but some comparisons with our Wembley triumph last May albeit the last gasp goals, the abiding memory on both occasions.
7 months ago our Nabster played his part in the nightmeire start to the match.
Today, despite a less than 100% performance in defence, that same player turned from zero to hero. Bless his cotton socks !
Ben " Mr Reliable" Purrington took the deserved plaudits for bringing us back into the Play Off Final.
Today, sadly he looked a shadow of the player we saw that day. We can only hope he is able to get back on track.
3 lads whose performances in both games were consistent - Darren Pratley , Dillon Phillips and, despite a long lay off, our returning Main Man up front. All continuing to do what they do best, giving everything for the team.
2 young players on the cusp of advancement in their football careers - Joe Aribo & Anfernee Dijksteel played important roles in the Wembley win but now playing their trades north of Watford.
Today, 2 younger but very exciting young men were possibly the outstanding performers for the Addicks - Albie Morgan & Alfie Doughty. Long may their exciting contributions & development continue in our first team squad.
The rigours of the Championship are inevitably taking their toll on certain members of the squad, whilst the injury list grows longer every week, increasing the pressure on those fit enough to make it onto the pitch and becoming a major factor for ongoing changes in the matchday personnel.
Through it all, one man & his management team continue to work their miracles with the meagre resources they have & despite the current struggle to add much needed points to our total, ingrain in their players a never say die attitude & the fight to the "death" mentality. And continue to engender the pride in wearing THE shirt. NO-ONE can argue with that, surely ?
THIS is the main reason why we are not down & out despite all the cruel setbacks since this difficult season began. The spirit, the energy and the desire to put exhausted bodies on the line time & time again stems from what happens at Sparrows Lane and from the touchline every matchday. We are truly blessed to have Bow & JJ at the hem of our ship.
Naby's equaliser sent us all home far happier than we would have believed when the board showing 5 minutes was lifted up and the lads will go again in 5 days' time. Let's raise the roof on Boxing Day & get "revenge " for that desperately late winning goal in Bristol.
Top of my Christmas list is to wish the announcement we're all hoping for comes very soon and that we are then gradually able to stabilise & cement our place in this challenging league. Everyone concerned with/about our famous football club deserves this for sure.
And finally, the Fanackapans would like to wish all you lovely Lifers a Very Happy Christmas & a special 2020.
We love you All !
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A Fanny tour de force after midnight.2 -
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You could argue that it cost us 1, maybe 3 points. Vennings really isn't ready, and as something like 15th choice, shouldn't be expected to be. That isn't his, or anyone else's fault. Morgan on the other hand splits opinion, most it would seem on here, think he is ready and that he adds a lot. Bowyer on the other hand doesn't agree, for what ever reason.EveshamAddick said:
Blooding Vennings as we might be needing him if things carry on like this?soapboxsam said:
If Morgan is fit on boxing Day he will start.wmcf123 said:What does Morgan have to do to start ?
No Leko, Williams, Oztumer, surely he must start. In Bowyer we trust but Vennings getting the nod over Albie the other week to come on as sub still baffles me.
Quite rightly Alfie gets praise from Lee, but Albie needs the boost from the manager as well.
Bowyer, in all honesty, is probably right. If we hadn't gone up last season he probably would have get pelters over not playing Fosu. I trust Bowyer 100% but this does puzzle me.1 -
I think he used all his experience about 5 minutes later when he refrained from smearing his nose across his face the prefect looking little cn....lancashire lad said:It is a pity that Pratley was booked for dissent, such an experienced player should know better0 -
Probably agree with that, just...superclive98 said:
That ball for the first goal yesterday wasn't his to claim. Goalkeepers that come for balls that far from their line will, probably 8 times out of 10, be made to look silly.AddicksAddict said:
His kicking can be woeful at times and he doesn't come to claim crosses anything like as much as he said, witness the first goal yesterday. I'm pleased we have him but he's not PL class so I'm pleased we'll be having him for a long time yet.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.
Sometimes you just have to rely on your defenders to defend. It's a percentage call and his call yesterday was correct.
However this is a massive threat to us every week as he doesn't come to claim or punch enough, when he does he does it well which makes it more annoying when he doesn't.1 -
Simmo's very moderate looking away record at Loftus Road...
P15 W4 D3 L8 - For 15 Against 24
Yesterday was more fun than a couple of the wins!2 -
It's hardly a massive threat - I'd be more inclined to look at the rest of the defence. Phillips is a very good keeper and can improve but some of the criticism of him seems OTT - we'd be a lot worse off without him.Charltonparklane said:
Probably agree with that, just...superclive98 said:
That ball for the first goal yesterday wasn't his to claim. Goalkeepers that come for balls that far from their line will, probably 8 times out of 10, be made to look silly.AddicksAddict said:
His kicking can be woeful at times and he doesn't come to claim crosses anything like as much as he said, witness the first goal yesterday. I'm pleased we have him but he's not PL class so I'm pleased we'll be having him for a long time yet.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.
Sometimes you just have to rely on your defenders to defend. It's a percentage call and his call yesterday was correct.
However this is a massive threat to us every week as he doesn't come to claim or punch enough, when he does he does it well which makes it more annoying when he doesn't.
I've yet to see the perfect keeper.2 -
Other than the last minute goal conceded to Hull, Dillion have made a myriad of goal line clearances including about 3 in that Hull game. If Dillion could come off his line and punch well, he wouldn't still be at Charlton.Charltonparklane said:
Probably agree with that, just...superclive98 said:
That ball for the first goal yesterday wasn't his to claim. Goalkeepers that come for balls that far from their line will, probably 8 times out of 10, be made to look silly.AddicksAddict said:
His kicking can be woeful at times and he doesn't come to claim crosses anything like as much as he said, witness the first goal yesterday. I'm pleased we have him but he's not PL class so I'm pleased we'll be having him for a long time yet.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.
Sometimes you just have to rely on your defenders to defend. It's a percentage call and his call yesterday was correct.
However this is a massive threat to us every week as he doesn't come to claim or punch enough, when he does he does it well which makes it more annoying when he doesn't.
David de Gea Is a great goal line stopper but on many occasions looks weak in the air including last week against Everton.0 -
If the defence and midfield stopped some of the crosses coming in in the first place then there wouldn't be as much debate about to punch or not to punch.1
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Ah mate, I'm honestly not digging him out and wouldn't, even after the howler at Wembley.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
It's hardly a massive threat - I'd be more inclined to look at the rest of the defence. Phillips is a very good keeper and can improve but some of the criticism of him seems OTT - we'd be a lot worse off without him.Charltonparklane said:
Probably agree with that, just...superclive98 said:
That ball for the first goal yesterday wasn't his to claim. Goalkeepers that come for balls that far from their line will, probably 8 times out of 10, be made to look silly.AddicksAddict said:
His kicking can be woeful at times and he doesn't come to claim crosses anything like as much as he said, witness the first goal yesterday. I'm pleased we have him but he's not PL class so I'm pleased we'll be having him for a long time yet.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.
Sometimes you just have to rely on your defenders to defend. It's a percentage call and his call yesterday was correct.
However this is a massive threat to us every week as he doesn't come to claim or punch enough, when he does he does it well which makes it more annoying when he doesn't.
I've yet to see the perfect keeper.
He's so young still as well, I think he could go very far with this added to his game.
He's 2nd choice in my POTY at the moment.
He does save us big time every game.1 -
Again, as per my reply above, I agree with everything you have said.soapboxsam said:
Other than the last minute goal conceded to Hull, Dillion have made a myriad of goal line clearances including about 3 in that Hull game. If Dillion could come off his line and punch well, he wouldn't still be at Charlton.Charltonparklane said:
Probably agree with that, just...superclive98 said:
That ball for the first goal yesterday wasn't his to claim. Goalkeepers that come for balls that far from their line will, probably 8 times out of 10, be made to look silly.AddicksAddict said:
His kicking can be woeful at times and he doesn't come to claim crosses anything like as much as he said, witness the first goal yesterday. I'm pleased we have him but he's not PL class so I'm pleased we'll be having him for a long time yet.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.
Sometimes you just have to rely on your defenders to defend. It's a percentage call and his call yesterday was correct.
However this is a massive threat to us every week as he doesn't come to claim or punch enough, when he does he does it well which makes it more annoying when he doesn't.
David de Gea Is a great goal line stopper but on many occasions looks weak in the air including last week against Everton.0 -
I see Premiership keepers make mistakes every week - a good keeper keeps mistakes to a minimum.Charltonparklane said:
Again, as per my reply above, I agree with everything you have said.soapboxsam said:
Other than the last minute goal conceded to Hull, Dillion have made a myriad of goal line clearances including about 3 in that Hull game. If Dillion could come off his line and punch well, he wouldn't still be at Charlton.Charltonparklane said:
Probably agree with that, just...superclive98 said:
That ball for the first goal yesterday wasn't his to claim. Goalkeepers that come for balls that far from their line will, probably 8 times out of 10, be made to look silly.AddicksAddict said:
His kicking can be woeful at times and he doesn't come to claim crosses anything like as much as he said, witness the first goal yesterday. I'm pleased we have him but he's not PL class so I'm pleased we'll be having him for a long time yet.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.
Sometimes you just have to rely on your defenders to defend. It's a percentage call and his call yesterday was correct.
However this is a massive threat to us every week as he doesn't come to claim or punch enough, when he does he does it well which makes it more annoying when he doesn't.
David de Gea Is a great goal line stopper but on many occasions looks weak in the air including last week against Everton.
Sometimes we spend too much time focussing on weaknesses and not enough on strengths. It's been a hard season so far for Dillon and he's done really well. I don't think distribution will ever be his strong point but as a shot stopper he's excellent and as for crosses I'm unclear as to how LB tells the defence to deal with them.
One of the better Championship keepers for me.
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I think that was the most porous our defence has been all season. You could have driven a coach and horses through them.
Lockyer & Phillips are the only 2 defenders playing at Championship level.
Purrington is getting worse by the week. It may be to do with having to play him when injured some weeks back.
Doughty, Morgan, Gallagher & Pratley all played well.
Taylor was good & Bonne showed very little again. He appears to have gone into his shell/lost confidence since Taylor returned.
We never looked like grabbing an equaliser, so Sarr's goal was a great Xmas present.2 -
Funnily enough I think his distribution is great when he throws it and a lot of his shit distribution or mistakes is trying things a little bit 'out there'hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
I see Premiership keepers make mistakes every week - a good keeper keeps mistakes to a minimum.Charltonparklane said:
Again, as per my reply above, I agree with everything you have said.soapboxsam said:
Other than the last minute goal conceded to Hull, Dillion have made a myriad of goal line clearances including about 3 in that Hull game. If Dillion could come off his line and punch well, he wouldn't still be at Charlton.Charltonparklane said:
Probably agree with that, just...superclive98 said:
That ball for the first goal yesterday wasn't his to claim. Goalkeepers that come for balls that far from their line will, probably 8 times out of 10, be made to look silly.AddicksAddict said:
His kicking can be woeful at times and he doesn't come to claim crosses anything like as much as he said, witness the first goal yesterday. I'm pleased we have him but he's not PL class so I'm pleased we'll be having him for a long time yet.Covered_End_Lad said:Can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how good Dillon Phillips is? Have to say when he first came into the side last year he looked shaky and I was worried. How wrong I was, will be the next of our players plying his trade in the PL. Still only 24 as well. Keep it up Dill, total class.
Sometimes you just have to rely on your defenders to defend. It's a percentage call and his call yesterday was correct.
However this is a massive threat to us every week as he doesn't come to claim or punch enough, when he does he does it well which makes it more annoying when he doesn't.
David de Gea Is a great goal line stopper but on many occasions looks weak in the air including last week against Everton.
Sometimes we spend too much time focussing on weaknesses and not enough on strengths. It's been a hard season so far for Dillon and he's done really well. I don't think distribution will ever be his strong point but as a shot stopper he's excellent and as for crosses I'm unclear as to how LB tells the defence to deal with them.
One of the better Champuonship keepers for me.
It's the decision making with the choice of distribution sometimes, slowing the game down, looking at the pitcure up the other end of the field when he does a quick one. That will come with age, he's very very young for a 1st choice keeper in the champ1 -
I think if the takeover goes through then the defence will be strengthened. I think we've been helped out by poor finishing from our opponents in some of the gamesCovered End said:I think that was the most porous our defence has been all season. You could have driven a coach and horses through them.
Lockyer & Phillips are the only 2 defenders playing at Championship level.
Purrington is getting worse by the week. It may be to do with having to play him when injured some weeks back.
Doughty, Morgan, Gallagher & Pratley all played well.
Taylor was good & Bonne showed very little again. He appears to have gone into his shell/lost confidence since Taylor returned.
We never looked like grabbing an equaliser, so Sarr's goal was a great Xmas present.
I think Solly can still play at this level but not so much in the wing back role.0 -
Starting an unfit Ledley at Boro instead of Morgan was even more baffling, especially as he hasn't played since!soapboxsam said:
If Morgan is fit on boxing Day he will start.wmcf123 said:What does Morgan have to do to start ?
No Leko, Williams, Oztumer, surely he must start. In Bowyer we trust but Vennings getting the nod over Albie the other week to come on as sub still baffles me.
Quite rightly Alfie gets praise from Lee, but Albie needs the boost from the manager as well.2 -
Kind of poetic that it was Naby’s mistake that played the ball straight into the path of Cameron for 1-0.
And then it was Cameron’s mistake that put Naby through to make it 2-2.11 -
And at 31 seconds we have @AshBurton and Ash Jr applauding politely and looking around as if the opera at Glyndebourne has brought the house down.Callumcafc said:
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Loving Lockyer's reaction to the fans there , future captain there surely!Callumcafc said:10 -
And Pratley comes over to give the other players a bit of a slap or punch.Horsfield9 said:
Loving Lockyer's reaction to the fans there , future captain there surely!Callumcafc said:
Brilliant.
Pratley is becoming a really really cool guy, loving him right now.7
