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  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    The Red Robin said:
    TEL said:
    Go for it and get Chris Wilder....he said he would drop to league one if it was the right club and owner. I reckon he would sort this rabble out.
    When did he say that?
    Here 48 mins in

    https://youtu.be/ejRKhXoEiy8
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    CAFCsayer said:
    TEL said:
    Go for it and get Chris Wilder....he said he would drop to league one if it was the right club and owner. I reckon he would sort this rabble out.

    Seen it quoted a few times, but never seen a source. Where has he actually said this?
    48 mins  in
    https://youtu.be/ejRKhXoEiy8
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    jimmymelrose said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    jimmymelrose said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafctom said:
    Johnnie Jackson. A lot of people saying he is part of the problem, but without much basis as to exactly why. Do you see the training sessions? Do you follow the advice he gives?

    Truth is, as a club we have always fared better when one of our own is at the helm and there’s a good feeling about the place. Call it sentimental mush if you choose, but it is a fact of the past 30 years on multiple occasions.

    An ‘experienced’ manager at this level doesn’t really work or exist IMO. If they’re that experienced and competent, then why would they be hanging around the bottom half of League One after years in the game….Unless you want another Nigel Adkins or Russell Slade.

    The fact he's in the training sessions and coaches the team currently is enough for me to say no. 
    What about the fact that he did so also when we won promotion?

    I've been over this in my mind for weeks now and my conclusion is that Jacko is the lowest risk possibility giving us the greatest chance of the 1.25 ppg we need. In my opinion he'll do better than that - he'll put the spirit back into us, give us a settled system, a settled team and demand 100%

    One thing that amuses me is the alternative suggestions. Be it the Wycombe, Accrington or Harrogate manager - have they done the business at more that one club? Did the club they are now at give them that chance? Give Jacko first refusal, then Euell, or joint managers as with Curbs & Gritt. Give the chance to those that deserve it within. 
    What about when we got relegated from the championship, when it all went Pete tong under Robinson, what about last season, what about this season?

    I don't agree with this assertion that if the manager is not good enough everyone working underneath him is not so either, even though they may disagree with all the decisions being made.

    Who would you want?
    1 manager, 2 managers, 3 managers all should have been sacked.  Its a bit of a pattern isn't it?

    I have no idea who I would want because, to be honest, I don't know how deep the problem is and anyone that claims they do is guessing.

    @BR7_Addick Your right there is but normally the assistant comes and goes with the manager.  There is good reason for that. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    The standard procedure is surely to sack Adkins, and stick Jacko/Euell in caretaker charge

    That will then flush out potential candidates. There may be brilliant coaches out there waiting for their first job, or existing L1 managers wanting to jump ship. And in the meantime we can see what the caretakers can do with the same players, in terms of motivation, tactics and formation
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    Dave Rudd said:
    I'd give it to Ged Roddy.

    He previously managed Team Bath, he knows the current squad and has faith in the players.

    More importantly, he will take us into the New Age of Football ... a world of TLAs (three letter abbreviations). 

    He and his SMT (Senior Management Team) will monitor KPIs (Key Performance Indicators) and all players will have an EPP (Elite Performance Plan) - which will include CPD (Continued Personal Development).

    What's not to like?


    As we have showers at CAFC, I can't see that experience counting for much Dave :/
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,428
    What’s the betting we win 3-0 tonight 😂
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    robroy said:
    What’s the betting we win 3-0 tonight 😂
    20/1 on Betfair, if you fancy it.  :)
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    TEL said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    TEL said:
    Go for it and get Chris Wilder....he said he would drop to league one if it was the right club and owner. I reckon he would sort this rabble out.

    Seen it quoted a few times, but never seen a source. Where has he actually said this?
    48 mins  in
    https://youtu.be/ejRKhXoEiy8
    That’s interesting. It’s almost like he had a club in mind when he said it. He’s at least worth a phone call. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    The Red Robin said:
    TEL said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    TEL said:
    Go for it and get Chris Wilder....he said he would drop to league one if it was the right club and owner. I reckon he would sort this rabble out.

    Seen it quoted a few times, but never seen a source. Where has he actually said this?
    48 mins  in
    https://youtu.be/ejRKhXoEiy8
    That’s interesting. It’s almost like he had a club in mind when he said it. He’s at least worth a phone call. 
    Probably hoping Sunderland fail. They could and should be pushing for promotion. To the premier league if and when they get promoted from this shitty league
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Todds_right_hook said:
    The Red Robin said:
    TEL said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    TEL said:
    Go for it and get Chris Wilder....he said he would drop to league one if it was the right club and owner. I reckon he would sort this rabble out.

    Seen it quoted a few times, but never seen a source. Where has he actually said this?
    48 mins  in
    https://youtu.be/ejRKhXoEiy8
    That’s interesting. It’s almost like he had a club in mind when he said it. He’s at least worth a phone call. 
    Probably hoping Sunderland fail. They could and should be pushing for promotion. To the premier league if and when they get promoted from this shitty league
    There’s a few really. Ourselves, Sunderland, Ipswich, Pompey. 
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  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    Nigel has given experienced British managers a bad name. They aren't all as bad as him, and some eventually just run out of fuel.
    Fat Sam lost it last year.

    It is pretty clear and simple. 

    Nigel used to be good/ok....but now he is awful.

    We need a league one competitive enthusiastic work-aholic.

    Getting modern age players motivated is perhaps harder then expected


  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Dinosaur football doesn’t help 
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    This is really really strange.

    Our current league position would make more sense....if it was this time last year! Recovering from the threat of administration.

    TS needs to openly apologise to fans. Admit mistakes, and then put things right.

    But, I smell some bullshit.

    Bowyer wasn't behaving in the best way earlier this year...but I would be interested to hear his account of the current charlton set up.
    What was going on behind closed doors?


  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Gillingham 1-0 up now which means we’re four points from safety + a -8 goal difference, so essentially five points away. 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    The Red Robin said:
    Gillingham 1-0 up now which means we’re four points from safety + a -8 goal difference, so essentially five points away. 
    And Fleetwood have a game in hand so it could go to 5 points adrift
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    TEL said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    TEL said:
    Go for it and get Chris Wilder....he said he would drop to league one if it was the right club and owner. I reckon he would sort this rabble out.

    Seen it quoted a few times, but never seen a source. Where has he actually said this?
    48 mins  in
    https://youtu.be/ejRKhXoEiy8
    Thanks for that. I listend all the way through.

    That's probably the best interview with a football manager that I've ever heard.

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,466
    Problem is any new manager will have to be willing to work alongside Roddy.
    For that reason we'll end up with some other Muppet.
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    Anybody with a bit of fecking bite and aggression , no more mr nice guys

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    No more dinosaurs please 
  • dajavouslagan
    dajavouslagan Posts: 724
    TS has got all the big decisions wrong so far. 
    Feel Roddy is bad news for our club. Recruitment is so wrong which is the lifeblood of the club.  
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  • Fortune 82nd Minute
    Fortune 82nd Minute Posts: 8,353
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    Always the same when a manager is under threat. All the old faces come out the woodwork. Hopefully no more than that. Could even be scouting for someone. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Does anyone really know Roddys influence? Adkins is the man responsible for winning football matches. 

    Recruitment could obviously have been better but we’ve still got a squad full of players who played in League 1 and didn’t get relegated. 
    MacGillivray, Matthews, Gunter, Purrington, Inniss, Famewo, Pearce, Watson, Morgan, Gilbey, Lee and Washington all finished top half (plus Stockley and DJ from Jan). 
    Henderson, Souare, Arter, Leko all played at a higher level. 
    Clare, Dobson and Kirk all did relatively well at clubs who avoided the drop. 
    Only players you could really argue are League 1 relegation quality are Lavelle, CBT and Davison as they all played League 2. 

    Individuals don’t make a team and I’m not saying we should be unbeaten but this squad is a lot better than bottom 4. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    The Red Robin said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    Always the same when a manager is under threat. All the old faces come out the woodwork. Hopefully no more than that. Could even be scouting for someone. 
    Lucky it wasn’t Holloway then. 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Roddy is such a devious bastard that he can morph into other people as well.
  • Fortune 82nd Minute
    Fortune 82nd Minute Posts: 8,353
    ricky_otto said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    The Red Robin said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    Always the same when a manager is under threat. All the old faces come out the woodwork. Hopefully no more than that. Could even be scouting for someone. 
    Lucky it wasn’t Holloway then. 
    Honest? Who was it then?


  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    The Red Robin said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    Always the same when a manager is under threat. All the old faces come out the woodwork. Hopefully no more than that. Could even be scouting for someone. 
    Lucky it wasn’t Holloway then. 
    Honest? Who was it then?


    Sol Campbell.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    ricky_otto said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    The Red Robin said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    Always the same when a manager is under threat. All the old faces come out the woodwork. Hopefully no more than that. Could even be scouting for someone. 
    Lucky it wasn’t Holloway then. 
    Good!
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    The Red Robin said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    The Red Robin said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    Always the same when a manager is under threat. All the old faces come out the woodwork. Hopefully no more than that. Could even be scouting for someone. 
    Lucky it wasn’t Holloway then. 
    Good!
    It was Roddy 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    The Red Robin said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    That picture of Holloway next to TS tonight is worrying. Very worrying.
    Always the same when a manager is under threat. All the old faces come out the woodwork. Hopefully no more than that. Could even be scouting for someone. 
    Lucky it wasn’t Holloway then. 
    Honest? Who was it then?


    Ged Roddy

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